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841  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Theymos: “Bitcoins Belonging to Satoshi Should Be Destroyed” on: May 12, 2016, 02:07:46 AM
5 years is actually a long time for someone who's watching his own bitcoins; however that would be a bummer if you get knocked out into a coma and wake up 6 years later to find your stash destroyed.

Ideally, the coins would be destroyed just moments before they would be stolen so that no one would lose coins who wouldn't lose them due to theft anyway. Since we can't exactly predict the future, there may be some cases like that, but it should be extremely rare.

If no one loses any coins, then that'd be a massive success. The goal of the policy would not be to destroy coins, but to prevent lost and insecure coins from being stolen.

Theymos,

My understanding of your thinking here, is this correct:

Pretty much.

I'm talking about the hypothetical situation of advancements in quantum computing making ECDSA insecure. I am not proposing that any code be written or changes be made today, and probably not for several years. When the deletion policy is put in place, the grace period should be as long as possible -- I mentioned 5 years from the initiation of the policy as an arbitrary example.

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After we have already forked to replace the QC vulnerable algorithms in Bitcoin with QC safe algorithms

Agreed, though as a minor technical nitpick, note that you can actually roll out both changes at once (with the expiration change set to only take effect after a several-year grace period), and both the crypto upgrade and the expiration are softforks.

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as a way to encourage (force) people to move their coins to the new algorithms.

From my perspective, the motivation for doing this would be to prevent thieves from stealing a ton of almost-certainly-lost bitcoins. It would be very bad for the overall Bitcoin economy if the ~5% of bitcoins that are "permanently lost" come back into circulation, especially when the new owners would be unethical thieves.

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At the rate QC is progressing those of us alive right now really don't have to worry about this.  Perhaps our grandchildren or maybe our children.

I think that QC could get to a worrying state for Bitcoin in as soon as 10 years, though perhaps it will take much longer. According to several standards bodies, Bitcoin's 256-bit elliptic curve is only considered secure up to 2030, in part due to QC.
842  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Theymos: “Bitcoins Belonging to Satoshi Should Be Destroyed” on: May 12, 2016, 01:43:01 AM
I never said any such thing. bitcoin.com again proves that it is absolutely worthless by completely fabricating that quote.
843  Other / Meta / Re: Whats wrong with this post? on: May 10, 2016, 04:25:11 PM
So my guess would be that some of this post is getting cut off due to posting character limits and its breaking the code wherever its cutting it off at and messing up the table(s)

Yeah, that's what it is. Posts over 65535 bytes get cut off at 65535 bytes. If that makes the BBcode invalid in certain ways, then you get the INVALID BBCODE error.

Also, note that a byte is different from a character. Because SMF stores "special" characters in a particularly space-inefficient way, each Russian character uses about 6 bytes, and each line break also uses 6 bytes.
844  Other / Meta / Re: viewing all members temporarily disabled? on: May 06, 2016, 02:36:27 AM
It's too resource intensive. I need to figure out some way to make it faster.

The search still works.
845  Economy / Auctions / Advertise on this forum - Round 172 on: May 05, 2016, 03:55:03 AM
The forum sells ad space in the area beneath the first post of every topic page. This income is used primarily to cover hosting costs and to pay moderators for their work (there are many moderators, so each moderator gets only a small amount -- moderators should be seen as volunteers, not employees). Any leftover amount is typically either saved for future expenses or otherwise reinvested into the forum or the ecosystem.

Ads are allowed to contain any non-annoying HTML/CSS style. No images, JavaScript, or animation. Ads must appear 3 or fewer lines tall in my browser (Firefox, 900px wide). Ad text may not contain lies, misrepresentation, or inappropriate language. Ads may not link directly to any NSFW page. Ads may be rejected for other reasons, and I may remove ads even after they are accepted.

There are 10 total ad slots which are randomly rotated. So one ad slot has a one in ten chance of appearing. Nine of the slots are for sale here. Ads appear only on topic pages with more than one post, and only for people using the default theme.

Duration

- Your ads are guaranteed to be up for at least 7 days.
- I usually try to keep ads up for no more than 8 or 9 days.
- Sometimes ads might be up for longer, but hopefully no longer than 12 days. Even if past rounds sometimes lasted for long periods of time, you should not rely on this for your ads.

Stats

Exact historical impression counts per slot:
https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats

Info about the current ad slots:
https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo

Ad blocking

Hero/Legendary members, Donators, VIPs, and moderators have the ability to disable ads. I don't expect many people to use this option. These people don't increase the impression stats for your ads.

I try to bypass Adblock Plus filters as much as possible, though this is not guaranteed. It is difficult or impossible for ABP filters to block the ad space itself without blocking posts. However, filters can match against the URLs in your links, your CSS classes and style attributes, and the HTML structure of your ads.

To prevent matches against URLs: I have some JavaScript which fixes links blocked by ABP. You must tell me if you want this for your ads. When someone with ABP and JavaScript enabled views your ads, your links are changed to a special randomized bitcointalk.org URL which redirects to your site when visited. People without ABP are unaffected, even if they don't have JavaScript enabled. The downsides are:
- ABP users will see the redirection link when they hover over the link, even if they disable ABP for the forum.
- Getting referral stats might become even more difficult.
- Some users might get a warning when redirecting from https to http.

To prevent matching on CSS classes/styles: Don't use inline CSS. I can give your ad a CSS class that is randomized on each pageload, but you must request this.

To prevent matching against your HTML structure: Use only one <a> and no other tags if possible. If your ads get blocked because of matching done on something inside of your ad, you are responsible for noticing this and giving me new ad HTML.

Designing ads

Make sure that your ads look good when you download and edit this test page:
https://bitcointalk.org/ad_test.html
Also read the comments in that file.

Images are not allowed no matter how they are created (CSS, SVG, or data URI). Occasionally I will make an exception for small logos and such, but you must get pre-approval from me first.

The maximum size of any one ad is 51200 bytes.

I will send you more detailed styling rules if you win slots in this auction (or upon request).

Auction rules

You must be at least a Jr Member to bid. If you are not a Jr Member and you really want to bid, you should PM me first. Tell me in the PM what you're going to advertise. You might be required to pay some amount in advance. Everyone else: Please quickly PM newbies who try to bid here to warn them against impersonation scammers.

Post your bids in this thread. Prices must be stated in BTC per slot. You must state the maximum number of slots you want. When the auction ends, the highest bidders will have their slots filled until all nine slots are filled.

So if someone bids for 9 slots @ 5 BTC and this is the highest bid, then he'll get all 9 slots. If the two highest bids are 9 slots @ 4 BTC and 1 slot @ 5 BTC, then the first person will get 8 slots and the second person will get 1 slot.

The notation "2 @ 5" means 2 slots for 5 BTC each. Not 2 slots for 5 BTC total.

- When you post a bid, the bids in your previous posts are considered to be automatically canceled. You can put multiple bids in one post, however.
- All bid prices must be evenly divisible by 0.05.
- The bidding starts at 0.50.
- I will end the auction at an arbitrary time. Unless I say otherwise, I typically try to end auctions within a few days of 10 days from the time of this post, but unexpected circumstances may sometimes force me to end the auction anytime between 4 and 22 days from the start.
- If two people bid at the same price, the person who bid first will have his slots filled first.
- Bids are considered invalid and will be ignored if they do not specify both a price and a max quantity, or if they could not possibly win any slots

If these rules are confusing, look at some of the past forum ad auctions to see how it's done.

I reserve the right to reject bids, even days after the bid is made.

You must pay for your slots within 24 hours of receiving the payment address. Otherwise your slots may be sold to someone else, and I might even give you a negative trust rating. I will send you the payment information via forum PM from this account ("theymos", user ID 35) after announcing the auction results in this thread. You might receive false payment information from scammers pretending to be me. They might even have somewhat similar usernames. Be careful.
846  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 171 on: May 05, 2016, 03:47:29 AM
Auction ended. Final result:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 1.10 bitwala
2 1.10 VitalBet
3 1.05 CEX
1 1.05 pseudonymdude
2 1.00 victorhing
847  Other / Meta / Re: Anyway to copy All Private messages ? on: May 05, 2016, 03:39:35 AM
I actually have code written for exporting PMs into an mbox file compatible with Thunderbird, but I haven't gotten around yet to figuring out how best to present this functionality to users. (It's unusual because it takes a bit of time to generate and the resulting file should maybe be encrypted.)

If any established members have a strong need for it, I can manually create an export for you. For example, if you have so many PMs that the PM page is slow to load for you, you can get a PM export from me and then use the "purge PMs" feature. I'll probably only do this one time per person...
848  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi is revealed and nobody here cares about this?? on: May 02, 2016, 09:04:26 AM
As "Nice Try" mentioned above, this is 100% fake.  This sort of irresponsible "journalism" is just embarrassing... I mean, they were already fooled once by Wright's obvious fakery.
849  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 171 on: April 28, 2016, 05:06:18 PM
Can anyone help me with fund return or does forum not intent to return my 2.2 btc if not have courtesy to say you guys are small minded cheap fucks.

I don't have any record of you depositing 2.2 BTC. If you sent it to some address of mine without my prompting, then give me the details. If someone other than me asked you for BTC, then you've very likely been scammed, unfortunately.
850  Economy / Auctions / Advertise on this forum - Round 171 on: April 27, 2016, 02:37:04 AM
The forum sells ad space in the area beneath the first post of every topic page. This income is used primarily to cover hosting costs and to pay moderators for their work (there are many moderators, so each moderator gets only a small amount -- moderators should be seen as volunteers, not employees). Any leftover amount is typically either saved for future expenses or otherwise reinvested into the forum or the ecosystem.

Ads are allowed to contain any non-annoying HTML/CSS style. No images, JavaScript, or animation. Ads must appear 3 or fewer lines tall in my browser (Firefox, 900px wide). Ad text may not contain lies, misrepresentation, or inappropriate language. Ads may not link directly to any NSFW page. Ads may be rejected for other reasons, and I may remove ads even after they are accepted.

There are 10 total ad slots which are randomly rotated. So one ad slot has a one in ten chance of appearing. Nine of the slots are for sale here. Ads appear only on topic pages with more than one post, and only for people using the default theme.

Duration

- Your ads are guaranteed to be up for at least 7 days.
- I usually try to keep ads up for no more than 8 or 9 days.
- Sometimes ads might be up for longer, but hopefully no longer than 12 days. Even if past rounds sometimes lasted for long periods of time, you should not rely on this for your ads.

Stats

Exact historical impression counts per slot:
https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats

Info about the current ad slots:
https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo

Ad blocking

Hero/Legendary members, Donators, VIPs, and moderators have the ability to disable ads. I don't expect many people to use this option. These people don't increase the impression stats for your ads.

I try to bypass Adblock Plus filters as much as possible, though this is not guaranteed. It is difficult or impossible for ABP filters to block the ad space itself without blocking posts. However, filters can match against the URLs in your links, your CSS classes and style attributes, and the HTML structure of your ads.

To prevent matches against URLs: I have some JavaScript which fixes links blocked by ABP. You must tell me if you want this for your ads. When someone with ABP and JavaScript enabled views your ads, your links are changed to a special randomized bitcointalk.org URL which redirects to your site when visited. People without ABP are unaffected, even if they don't have JavaScript enabled. The downsides are:
- ABP users will see the redirection link when they hover over the link, even if they disable ABP for the forum.
- Getting referral stats might become even more difficult.
- Some users might get a warning when redirecting from https to http.

To prevent matching on CSS classes/styles: Don't use inline CSS. I can give your ad a CSS class that is randomized on each pageload, but you must request this.

To prevent matching against your HTML structure: Use only one <a> and no other tags if possible. If your ads get blocked because of matching done on something inside of your ad, you are responsible for noticing this and giving me new ad HTML.

Designing ads

Make sure that your ads look good when you download and edit this test page:
https://bitcointalk.org/ad_test.html
Also read the comments in that file.

Images are not allowed no matter how they are created (CSS, SVG, or data URI). Occasionally I will make an exception for small logos and such, but you must get pre-approval from me first.

The maximum size of any one ad is 51200 bytes.

I will send you more detailed styling rules if you win slots in this auction (or upon request).

Auction rules

You must be at least a Jr Member to bid. If you are not a Jr Member and you really want to bid, you should PM me first. Tell me in the PM what you're going to advertise. You might be required to pay some amount in advance. Everyone else: Please quickly PM newbies who try to bid here to warn them against impersonation scammers.

Post your bids in this thread. Prices must be stated in BTC per slot. You must state the maximum number of slots you want. When the auction ends, the highest bidders will have their slots filled until all nine slots are filled.

So if someone bids for 9 slots @ 5 BTC and this is the highest bid, then he'll get all 9 slots. If the two highest bids are 9 slots @ 4 BTC and 1 slot @ 5 BTC, then the first person will get 8 slots and the second person will get 1 slot.

The notation "2 @ 5" means 2 slots for 5 BTC each. Not 2 slots for 5 BTC total.

- When you post a bid, the bids in your previous posts are considered to be automatically canceled. You can put multiple bids in one post, however.
- All bid prices must be evenly divisible by 0.05.
- The bidding starts at 0.50.
- I will end the auction at an arbitrary time. Unless I say otherwise, I typically try to end auctions within a few days of 10 days from the time of this post, but unexpected circumstances may sometimes force me to end the auction anytime between 4 and 22 days from the start.
- If two people bid at the same price, the person who bid first will have his slots filled first.
- Bids are considered invalid and will be ignored if they do not specify both a price and a max quantity, or if they could not possibly win any slots

If these rules are confusing, look at some of the past forum ad auctions to see how it's done.

I reserve the right to reject bids, even days after the bid is made.

You must pay for your slots within 24 hours of receiving the payment address. Otherwise your slots may be sold to someone else, and I might even give you a negative trust rating. I will send you the payment information via forum PM from this account ("theymos", user ID 35) after announcing the auction results in this thread. You might receive false payment information from scammers pretending to be me. They might even have somewhat similar usernames. Be careful.
851  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 170 on: April 27, 2016, 02:11:57 AM
1 @ 0.5

You're too new, PM me first next time.

2 @ 0.8

Sorry, I won't accept your bids while you have negative trust in my trust network.

Auction ended. Final result:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 1.10 Bitkong.me
1 1.10 Randian Hero
7 1.05 YoBit
852  Other / Meta / Re: Alaki's Hacked. Help meh. on: April 26, 2016, 03:42:10 AM
The PGP signature and IP evidence makes me pretty confident that Alaki_away is the original owner of the account, so I reset the account.
853  Other / Meta / Re: DDoS extortion on: April 24, 2016, 02:19:11 AM
Didn't we subscribe to some kind of DDoS mitigation service several months ago?

Quite some time ago the forum was behind a DDoS protection service, but this service had many failures, and the alternatives were either unbelievably expensive or too intrusive (ie. they'd break HTTPS's security, make things difficult for Tor users, etc.), so I decided to roll my own DDoS protection. This has gone fairly well so far, though my DDoS mitigation techniques haven't been tested by any particularly large attacks until now. (Small-scale DoS attacks are very common, and my mitigations handle them easily.)
854  Other / Meta / DDoS extortion on: April 24, 2016, 12:52:23 AM
Someone threatened to DDoS the forum if I didn't pay 10 BTC, and then shortly afterward there was a DDoS attack which took down the forum for a while. Needless to say, I will never pay this demand. For now, the attack has either stopped or been significantly reduced, but it might happen again in the near future. If there is another attack, I will try my best to mitigate it.
855  Other / Meta / Re: Links no longer open in a new window/tab on: April 23, 2016, 04:42:16 PM
the right clicking in link and selecting open in new tab will prevent this?

Yeah, that's fine. The issue seems to be that when there's a target="_blank" link, the browser considers the new window/tab to be a "child" of the original page. This is a holdover from an era when popup windows were commonly used for all sorts of things, and the "target" attribute was used to affect the child pop-ups of a website.
856  Other / Meta / Re: Seriously! Banned my Gleb account. on: April 23, 2016, 04:32:08 PM
IIRC I did warn you about this in the past...

I would say however that I do not agree with this rule, especially when there is no paid signature involved. Posting multiple times does have clear benefits as it makes it very clear that you are making multiple points in relation to a particular topic. Making one post and then a subsequent post immediately after helps empanthesize the second post and would be beneficial to someone making a series of points concluded by a strong/important point.

Having a few consecutive posts every now and then when you don't have a paid sig isn't a big deal, but PG/GG does it habitually. The issue with this is that it unfairly bumps topics (like bumping a topic more than once per 24 hours) and it spams "watchlist", "show unrelad posts since last visit", etc.
857  Other / Meta / Links no longer open in a new window/tab on: April 23, 2016, 04:20:34 PM
Previously, user-generated links would often open in a new window/tab. However, kcud_dab found out that there are security issues with this, so I removed it. You'll have to middle-click links if you want them to open in a new tab.

If people find this disruptive, I could add rel=noreferrer to some of the target=_blank links, but then referrer info would never be sent, which might be undesirable.
858  Other / Meta / Re: INVALID BBCODE: bad table usage ?? on: April 23, 2016, 01:40:19 AM
That's usually caused by unclosed tags. I think in your case the post was too long, got cut off, and the unclosed tags triggered that error.
859  Other / Meta / Re: Beta of new forum software now officially open on: April 20, 2016, 12:16:47 AM
Due to some spam that the software wasn't quite prepared to handle yet, registration of new users is disabled for now.
860  Other / Meta / Re: Beta of new forum software now officially open on: April 19, 2016, 04:49:27 PM
What is the security risk of transferring PMs over? I would think allowing people to import the PMs into the new forum would cause additional risks as PMs might be able to be faked, ect

It just makes me extremely nervous to transfer this huge chunk of very-private data from this extremely-battle-hardened software onto new software.

Ah, this was unexpectedly great to hear. So exactly what is the plan once the beta finishes, a merge of everything (i.e. threads and posts made on both 'forums')?

Anything you post on beta.bitcointalk.org outside of Beta discussion will be deleted in the final merge.
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