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501  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Who buys alt-coins ? on: August 03, 2014, 07:44:58 AM
Hello,

I have understood that someone comes up with a new coin X (X may not even have a new innovation, or a big step forward). As X has no value yet, miners/pre-buyers get interested in the coin, because the difficulty is low, the coin is cheap, and it may have value in the future, no harm !
What I don't understand in this ecosystem is who buys X so X gets its value ? Whats the problem with BTC/LTC/DRK/... that some people will start buying X ? Are the people buying the coin the ones who want to profit from hording it, thus giving X value ?

Thanks !  Grin
502  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Looking to start a Bitcoin-based investment, need advice on: August 03, 2014, 06:53:58 AM
If you cannot freely exchange IRR/USD then the chart you linked may not be very helpful.
This kind of exchange is done routinely, as lots of students outside Iran need USD. Their families are funding them using exchanges.

Iranian bank interest % - estimated inflation % = X. If X is noticeably higher than the interest % offered by US/European banks, then it can be profitable.
I completely agree with this.

What's the Iran stance on bitcoin and cryptos? Have they forbidden it? If not, maybe you could try your luck and set up the first BTC/IRR exchange?
Nothing banned or allowed here yet. The government hasn't even noticed the movement. The idea of the exchange has been going through my mind. The problem here is that every exchange needs a constant flow of both currencies to be able to exchange. Even if lots of people use BTC to buy embargoed goods here, the exchange has to have a flow of BTC coming in. As there is no ecosystem of mining here, I don't know if thats even possible.

Bitcoin in this country is not recognized yet, I wonder what should I do first to promote.
503  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Invest bitcoins? on: August 03, 2014, 06:42:32 AM
1. As you say, you can run away at any time.
Thats right. I don't know how people can trust me.

2. The bitcoin price can change dramatically in a few years.
Its the basis of investment using Bitcoin. If one believes in price fluctuations, holding bitcoins is more economical. Investments should report profit as percentage of bitcoin earned. BTC/USD is out of question here.

3. The forex exchange rate can change dramatically.
This is also true. The IRR has been stable for a year, but there is always the possibility of price change.

504  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Looking to start a Bitcoin-based investment, need advice on: August 02, 2014, 07:22:58 PM
Thank you for your response.

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First of all, do Iranian banks allow to deposit in USD?

No, they don't. That's why the profit should be calculated as BTC/USD -> USD/IRR -> Deposit to Bank -> IRR/USD -> USD/BTC. Also there is no BTC/IRR here. I think it still may be profitable, but maybe for bigger sums of money.

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If you intend to convert $100 into Iranian rial and deposit rial in the bank for 1 year with 20% interest, assuming the inflation is also at 20%, after 1 year you'd still have only $100.

Very good point, but the fluctuations in IRR/USD are not as high as %20. Here is a good chart http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=IRR&view=1Y. There is a sharp price increase during the Ahmadinejad presidency, but other than that it seems fairly stable.

505  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Invest bitcoins? on: August 02, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
I am considering running a business to address Bitcoin investing. The whole idea is banks in different countries give out different interest rates. The country I live in (Iran) does have very high bank profits (result of inflation and high interest loans given). The standard banking profit is %10 a year, and can go up to %20 if the duration is more (5 years for example).

Bitcoin provides a good way to transfer money to Iran, as no international bank can handle low cost transactions here. If the added exchange rates of BTC/USD and USD/RLS are added I think it still may be profitable.

The main issue here is trust, as I know I couldn't have the trust of anybody here right now. If that can be handled, it is a sure investment, because the bank is building the profit not me  Grin

Any ideas ?
506  Economy / Trading Discussion / Looking to start a Bitcoin-based investment, need advice on: August 02, 2014, 08:03:18 AM
Hello,

As a fact the banking interest rate is different between countries. For example in the country I live in, Iran, the banking profit rate is as high as 20% profit a year. If you deposit $100 in your account, you will have $120 at the end of the year (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banking_and_insurance_in_Iran#Rates). This is a result of high loan interest rates and inflation in our country. As another fact, people in other countries don't have access to Iranian banks, as they are embargoed. Also Iranian banks only open bank accounts for Iranian residents.

Idea: Open an Iranian bank account for people living in other countries and give them their interest.

Before Bitcoin this was impossible, as foreigners couldn't have financial transactions with Iranian people. Now it is possible, but there are many complications:

How would you trust me (as a business) with your hard earned BTC ?
As I know I am not running a ponzi scheme (interest is built by the bank) how can I prove it ?

Any other ideas are appreciated !

Thank You  Cheesy
507  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I want to join cex.io now, what do you think ? on: July 31, 2014, 08:27:30 AM
Hello,

I want to take a SERIOUS step and I'm looking towards "cloud mining"

I don't want to go with pbmining as I don't want to have that 5-years contract.

The question is, is cex.io a good move, will I ever ROI my investment ?

I will put all my money I've as daily income into buying GH/s.

Kindly note that I'm still amateur or semi-professional in the mining matters, so kindly bare with me.

Thank you.

You need to consider their fee for maintenance per GHS as well. If you buy a lot of GHS that fee really hurts.
508  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Solo vs. Pool on: July 28, 2014, 01:00:57 PM
If I have about 12 THash/s of personal miners is it better to mine solo or mine in a pool?

I would surely go for a pool.
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