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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Need help identifying wallet file from 2010 MS DOS mining! on: April 22, 2024, 05:03:18 PM
It was all done through cmd msdos, at that time I didnt know about any wallets, just followed a guide cluelessly from THIS VERY WEBSITE to set it all up and mine. Most of early posts on these forums dont exist anymore somewhow.
All files were in a folder called Bitcoin you downloaded from here as well. Not in the app folder like nowadays that you have to install bitcoin core.
Never got to know my bitcoin address either. Was clueless like most everyone else at that time, its easy to talk now.
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Its just ms dos, you mined bitcoin windowed, and league of legends would stutter and become unplayable.
Said Mining...
Then the coin count on the bottom..

Stop talking about msdos. You likely ran a CPU or a GPU miner executable file from the CMD window that's available from Windows XP or 7, popular at that time. That wasn't any msdos exe at all.

If this miner was connected to a mining pool, it is possible that you mined Bitcoins in single units for the shares you mined than a full block reward of 50BTC in that period. It's unlikely that you mined solo without a pool as that would've required a bitcoind node running. And I don't think you mined solo targeted at a solo mining pool like ckpool, which iirc didn't exist in 2010.

Assuming you mined to a pool, here's a problem when you're clueless as you state it. You would've had to setup your own receiving Bitcoin address to which the pool should've paid out your shares.

It wasn't uncommon that those miner packages (zip archives) had a working configuration with a receiving address of the miner.exe creator. The docs said that you would've to change that address with your own mining address. The miner software creator benefitted from those dummies who didn't change the address for whatever reason. During a short test of the miner exe it always worked fine, no-one wants to see error messages or burn coins for nothing.

Never got to know my bitcoin address either. Was clueless like most everyone else at that time, its easy to talk now.

This more or less tells me, that you very very likely don't have any coins from 2010 in your possession or any wallet file you now desperately try to find. I'm not 100% sure about that, but all what you have written so far is very much conclusive with my assumption.

How do I know? Well, in 2011 I mined with iirc bfgminer.exe or cgminer.exe (don't remember exactly which one) pointed at Eligius pool. But contrary to you, I had setup a Bitcoin-GUI wallet.dat and have taken a specific Bitcoin address from my personal wallet to mine on Eligius pool. Once I reached payout limit, I got Bitcoin crumbles transfered directly via coinbase transaction from Eligius pool into my wallet. Still fond of those incoming transactions with the mining icon attached to them.

I don't remember exactly since when GPU mining started to be a thing and bfgminer or cgminer or whatever was the hot shit.

I wish for you that I'm wrong and am a bit sorry to be a party crasher, but the evidence you presented isn't the best for your case.

Finally..

You are 100% correct, finally found someone who knows what Im talking about.
When I say ms dos I mean cmd, I just basically call it ms dos.

This is exactly what I used like you said "bfgminer.exe or cgminer.exe", youve just reminded me. Not sure which one but one of the two, I think cgminer.
And I either mined through a pool which wasnt the one you mentioned "Eligius" it was something else but yea, if it was a pool it was one with "pool" in its name and one of the ones with the most users, if I remember correctly ping was also taken into account as well as language but I could be wrong.
I also remember there was a very simple page you could see all the pools available with a black background and each one of them add different background colors on that text line identifying them by type, rewards, etc.

OR I mined solo.. but like you said rewards were 50 btc each block,.. and all I add was on the cmd window saying "Mining.." and further down on that same window it would show: "1.. 2.. 3" and so on every few minutes until I stopped mining at about 30 minutes ish with like 8 or 12 btc (one of the two dont remember exactly, I remember seeing the number 8 for sure)

I also remember to see Bitcoin-GUI, but I dont know if I ever used it, if the image above is that then I problem never actually had an address of my own cause I dont remember anything like that image.

Would you know if you had to ask to transfer the bitcoin rewards after mining? Cause all I did was close the cmd window whilst it was mining and never opened it again.

I had/have a Bitcoin folder with all the files backed up into this hardrive btw and recovered all the data as RAW so files are all unamed too.

Thanks mate

Do Pywallet do not.. (or there is not other tools) that scan the whole drive for all wallets, private keys ... Bitcoin related things ??
I am almont sure that there is been such tool existing !! Huh

There was no mining pools on 2010 I think ! Roll Eyes  Or there was ! ?? ??  Roll Eyes   Though I don't think there was command lines games that gives bitcoins or have ever existed Grin  First faucet was created on 2011 ! Tongue
Maybe he has mined 12 blocks and confuse that with (bitcoins) ! Huh Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
back to 2010 this is very possible!


This would be nuts.. can anyone confirm the numbers showing on the bottom are bitcoin or blocks on cgminer back in 2010?

Maybe I mined solo if that was possible cause I remember to look at the pools but I dont remember to choose or set one up, there was another option to set up your mining simpler than using pools (its so hard to remember every detail correctly what Ive done ONCE 14 years ago without paying attention or knowing anything about it even today)

But if you said pools then idk

I remember my league of legends would stutter as if the CPU was maxed out in use not exactly how maxed graphics behave usually but I could be wrong.
Also reading some old archived post from august 2010, was it even possible to find 8 or 12 blocks in 30-60 minutes?

If I had to set up bitcoin-GUI even solo mining, and had to properly stop the cgminer program rather than just close cmd window to get wallet updated with with the right amount of bitcoin rewarded?

2nd question was there a wallet file with cgminer? And was it located in the bitcoin folder? Or where was your wallet address using Bitcoin-GUI located?


I wish for you that I'm wrong and am a bit sorry to be a party crasher, but the evidence you presented isn't the best for your case.

I know what you mean it would be sad if I just mined on a pool without setting up a wallet, or closing the cmd window without doing anything else wouldnt grant me anything or update my wallet or whatever there was a that time, but Id really love to find a way to check my files and be sure about it giving up based on a guess isnt an option, Im sure many people know how to look for bitcoin files from data recoveries.

Does Pywallet searches for cgminer or bitcoin-gui wallet files from 2010?

One thing is trying to guess if I did this or that or have a wallet or not.. another thing is if I knew a way to look over 3k unamed files and find a wallet or whatever was there in 2010 that can be used to find my bitcoin I would just do that and stop guessing.

Thanks all btw
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Need help identifying wallet file from 2010 MS DOS mining! on: April 20, 2024, 02:31:05 PM
Was there no setup of a wallet with the software you used back then? Do you remember ever creating a wallet? Did you ever have a Bitcoin address that your mining rewards went to that you could check on a blockchain explorer to verify that there were real coins there? What about private keys, did you ever save them somewhere?

Do you know anyone else who mined using the same software like you did who actually got some bitcoins?

A quick google search found nothing about your mysterious DOS mining software. There are articles about some Russian who developed a DOS program for a 1980s computer, but that's new and different from what you claim to have used.

"Was there no setup of a wallet with the software you used back then?"

It was all done through cmd msdos, at that time I didnt know about any wallets, just followed a guide cluelessly from THIS VERY WEBSITE to set it all up and mine. Most of early posts on these forums dont exist anymore somewhow.
All files were in a folder called Bitcoin you downloaded from here as well. Not in the app folder like nowadays that you have to install bitcoin core.
Never got to know my bitcoin address either. Was clueless like most everyone else at that time, its easy to talk now.

"Do you know anyone else who mined using the same software like you did who actually got some bitcoins?"

No, and I WISH I knew.

"A quick google search found nothing about your mysterious DOS mining software."

Its just ms dos, you mined bitcoin windowed, and league of legends would stutter and become unplayable.
Said Mining...
Then the coin count on the bottom..
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Need help identifying wallet file from 2010 MS DOS mining! on: April 18, 2024, 04:41:08 PM
After 14 years I just recovered all the data from it, but because the system was RAW all files came out unknown.. I know the wallet is one of them but I got about 3 thousand files

I forget to mention it earlier. But if you have access to the HDD or raw copy of the HDD, you could use tool called pywallet to scan it and automatically find bitcoin wallet files. You can obtain it from https://github.com/jackjack-jj/pywallet. I also provide a short example how to use it on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472426.msg63097543#msg63097543.

Hi everyone is there anyone here who could possibly help me identify a wallet mined with MS DOS in 2010 before bitcoin core existed, if you know you know.
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It was mined with MS DOS, there was nothing to install at that time, just run commands and mine..
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Those two statements make no sense. Before bitcoin core was bitcoin-qt and various GPU mining software such as cgminer, but MS-DOS? I know of a Linux distro that came with bitcoind in 2011, but MS-DOS?

OP's most recent reply (3 posts above yours) indicate he actually refer to Windows's Command Prompt (cmd).

But my question remains if anyone can help me identifying a bitcoin wallet out of 3k random named files.

This is correct, early bitcoin was mined downloading a folder with the files and all set up through cmd ms dos. You mined in MS DOS.
Its actually crazy nobody knows this or even mentions it. I must have been one of the first ones int he world mining bitcoin lol
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Need help identifying wallet file from 2010 MS DOS mining! on: April 16, 2024, 07:16:54 PM
Heres a picture of the type of files I got recovered, roughly 3k of them:

https://i.imgur.com/K31PTiM.png
Try the file command on Linux:
Code:
file wallet.dat
wallet.dat: Berkeley DB (Btree, version 9, native byte-order)

Do we know since when wallet file use Berkeley DB? I recall very early version of Bitcoin Core have almost no external dependency.

The version I mined was completely independent.
All I did was download a zip folder with the files, and set it all up through cmd ms dos.

There was also a website with a list of pools addresses and ports if you chose to mine thru a pool.
From what I recall it was all in these forums.

But my question remains if anyone can help me identifying a bitcoin wallet out of 3k random named files.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Need help identifying wallet file from 2010 MS DOS mining! on: April 16, 2024, 03:08:14 AM
It was mined with MS DOS, there was nothing to install at that time, just run commands and mine..

Was that even a thing? I always thought you needed the Bitcoin software installed (it was called Bitcoin-Qt at the time) to be able to solo mine on a PC.


Yes, you downloaded the files/zip folder with the programthen with cmd prompt you had to use commands to set it all up and mine.. it was all done in MS DOS
You would see on msdos: "Mining ..." then the bitcoin count that youve found further down or next to it.

In 30 minutes you could mine like 8 bitcoin with just a pny gtx9800
I was trying to make $100 a day at that time, bitcoin was 0.25 - 0.30 so that would be about $100 a day if I mined 24 hours but I couldnt play league of legends at the same time, it would stutter so I stopped mining.
Bitcoin trade was all done on the forums and paypal, the pizza guy times.

 
That's impossible you can't mine 12 BTC year 2010 because the reward you can get when mining with PC before per block is 50 so how its impossible that you can mine 12 BTC on that time?

Even the image you provided is not related to any crypto stuff so how can we identify which one is your Bitcoin wallet?
I can't find any files from that image it seems a related driver stuff or it's a virus.

Think I was using a pool, number of bitcoin would go 1... 2... 3... etc every few minutes and have "mining ..."
I cant post a screenshot with 3k files, thats just an example how all the files are showing.

What should I be looking for? Dont even know what kind of file was the wallet at that time.
I know that now its wallet.dat and its in app folder but back then there was no instalation.. it was just a folder with files and you run everything through cmd.
If only I could remember the pool I was using.. you would look on a list of pools and pick one to set it up.

Wish someone knew how to identify the wallet.


This thread is actually a lot like my situation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422772.0
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Need help identifying wallet file from 2010 MS DOS mining! on: April 15, 2024, 08:08:03 PM
Hi everyone is there anyone here who could possibly help me identify a wallet mined with MS DOS in 2010 before bitcoin core existed, if you know you know.
I mined about 12 bitcoins but stopped cause I could play league of legends at the same time and it was worthless at that time.
When I sold my computer I backed up everything to a hard drive I still have it, but never cared about it..
After 14 years I just recovered all the data from it, but because the system was RAW all files came out unknown.. I know the wallet is one of them but I got about 3 thousand files

How can I possibly identify a bitcoin wallet file out of 3 thousand unamed files and most of them are given the wrong type of file too?
It was mined with MS DOS, there was nothing to install at that time, just run commands and mine..
If anyone here knows what this is and how could I identify which file is the wallet, Id be more than willing to give you some of it.. got about 12 bitcoins that I mined in 30 minutes back then.

Heres a picture of the type of files I got recovered, roughly 3k of them:

https://i.imgur.com/K31PTiM.png

How do you guys identify which one is a bitcoin wallet?

Thanks in advance
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Has the Wallet.dat file always been in %APPDATA%\Bitcoin\? Even in 2010? on: April 13, 2024, 04:04:31 PM
Hi Ive mined about 12 bitcoins in 2010/11 ish when they were 30 cents with a PNY gtx9800, but I stopped mining cause it was worthless and couldnt play league of legends at the same time.

I used MS DOS at that time it was the only way to do it.

Now my question is if the wallet.dat file was ever in the bitcoin folder or always in %APPDATA% ?
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