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1  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin provide income on line? on: February 28, 2017, 06:30:25 PM
many of my friends did not work but a lot of money away was great when compared, to me that is still working in the factory, I was confused from where producer obtained from bitcoin?

You can earn bitcoin by doing some task or use your skill, you can find useful link here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=985550.0
Basically bitcoin is a payment tool, it's design as alternative payment or better. Before bitcoin exist you can earn income from internet, of course you pay with fiat currency thru some payment process like PayPal, ect.

If you have job IRL, better to continue, especially if your job is fit for your passion. Income from internet is just side job.
2  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin prices go to the moon? on: February 28, 2017, 06:00:09 PM
I think "to the moon" meaning is the price going up, up and up again without limit. So there are no specific price of bitcoin to the moon.
When I know bitcoin in the first time, "bitcoin to the moon" sentence always exist until now.
3  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: February 05, 2017, 06:23:01 PM
saya berharap harga bitcoin menjadi 18 jt untuk bulan february ini untuk modal kuliah .Sad

harga 18 juta atau sekitar 1500 dollar di bulan februari ini sangat susah mencapai harga segitu
boleh di katakan very imposible, harga bitcoin bisa tembus di harga segitu di bulan ini
Kalau menurut ane sih, harga 18 juta /BTC itu gak akan terjadi dalam waktu dekat ini,
Mungkin untuk mencapai harga segitu butuh beberapa bulan lagi, yaa kemungkinan di akhir tahun ini.

Sebenernya masalah nya bukan di beberapa bukan atau tahun, tapi lebih ke seberapa pesan demands. Kalau dalam waktu dekat bakal muncul berita2 tentang bitcoin yg bagus, kemungkinan harga naik bakalan besar, ambil contoh nya terakhir harga btc di China & Korea lebih besar dan berita drop nya saham WU di mexico dimana bitcoin jadi alternative, harga seketika naik.
4  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I educate myself on bitcoin for investing? on: February 05, 2017, 05:22:20 PM
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I should have specified a bit more, where do I go to learn more about a buy and hold strategy. Bitcoin has gone up a lot in the past few years and I want to educate myself so that I can profit from this massive growth. For context the only investing I've done thus far is a mutual fund that brings me a pretty nice 7-8% every year. 

You can learn two things, fundamental and technical analysis. Fundamental more likely related to news and the trends. Technical is how you can read the price chart.
Expected 7-8% per year is you just hold it, you just considering and calculate how much price your starting buy.
Do a trading daily can earn more profit, if you have understanding that two things.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin is banned on: February 05, 2017, 05:04:58 PM
How can bitcoin become global when not so few countries, including Russia and China, ban it?

Initially Russia ban bitcoin, but puttin have been declared recently it's not ban anymore, it's little bit confusing we don't know they plan, also Russia have a plan to create their own digital currency.
In China trading bitcoin individually is legal.

Some country have been open mind to bitcoin https://news.bitcoin.com/worlds-top-10-bitcoin-friendly-countries/
6  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Anonymity? on: February 04, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
I hear people talking about anonymity with various currencies, eg Monero, or DASH, but as most people seem to use exchanges, there really isn't any anonymity, because the exchange presumably knows each person's identity and therefore has a record of all transactions, whether they be for bitcoin, or any other "anonymous" currency. Is this right? It would seem that anonymity is a function of the exchange and not the currency (granted there are differences in currencies that impact anonymity as well).

If the above is true, are there any legitimate (I know this is subjective) exchanges that do not keep identities of their customers? I have heard of local meetups, but that does not seem very convenient and there are trust issues.

It's more likely pseudonym, not really anonymous, your address and all of your transaction can be tracked it's proof you use a "nickname" called address, unless your transaction mixing with a service which can fading your transaction.
Mostly exchange have KYC (already have a legality). You can use a decentralized exchange like bitsquare or trade in localbitcoin, but you should selective to a person who you want to deal with and use an escrow.
7  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best way to start trading on: February 04, 2017, 06:24:42 PM
IMO
The best way to start trading is with "FREE" or "demo' money. What better way to learn than by TRADING?
I would strongly suggest anyone who wants to learn, dabble or whatever start this way.

Head over to simplefx sign up and use demo account... Save your money until you've learned a thing a two.

Full review of SimpleFx Here

Demo is definitely different from the real account. I started learning from it and spread are very much different. I didn't bother to check at first since I was just new and then I realize I've lost hundreds already when I was following a strategy from someone. Each broker sets things differently so you gotta watch for it if you are hopping one to another.

Hopping I think its normal, I've only tried 4 I guess and stick to where I like the most.

I have been same such situations and I read about the different with both account, looks like it's natural, because from connectivity server which (could be) it's run in different server. I think it's not big problem if the different is just 1-3 pips while we in learning.
8  Economy / Economics / Re: [Poll] Gold vs. Bitcoin as an Investment - What’s Better? on: February 04, 2017, 06:12:04 PM
Actually it's depends how you want to take a kind of a risk, gold and bitcoin, both is the best investment so far, bit the risk make them different, obviously bitcoin have high risk, instead the profit is high too. Comparing with gold price recently the price reached $1,200+ with stable movement it's good to use as a long term investment with low risk.

Personally I choose both, but more keep bitcoin, it's have a surprise market and I loved a surprised.
9  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Are You Interested to buy physical goods and what you feel secure? on: February 04, 2017, 05:57:26 PM

I'm always interested to buy physical goods actually I just bought my new gaming headset for free shipping. If you think that shipping is a burden then just moderate the transactions that you are having out of your area. Just get the people closest to you or else you are going to add up and let the buyers shoulder the cost of shipping, just make it look that shipping is free but actually you are adding it to the original price of the goods that their buying.

I have been thinking of that idea before, yes it's can attract people because the shipping cost is free, but the problem is the cost itself is various for every country. Actually I can do an adjustments for put the price to "win-win" for a buyer and seller.

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Buying a physical item overseas is not a good idea if you ask me because of the time frame given from originating point to terminating point. Sometimes 1 month of waiting for an item is not worth it.

Relatively the shipping estimate here is not more than 2 weeks, except if you live in the corner of corner country which the access to there is difficult.
10  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is bitcoin worth? Welcome to discuss on: February 04, 2017, 05:33:27 PM
Someone has said bitcoin is of no value, in my heart I think they said is wrong, I always think that bitcoin is valuable, but I didn't understand what is the origin of the value of bitcoin, why accept more people, its value will rise? If you have other ideas, please discuss.

Bitcoin has been become a medium to exchange, in this means already become a money/currency, because there are a demands and also have a supply, both is determine how much value the things.
Why accept more people? Because bitcoin is actually easy to use, there's no border for you to use it, people can have their own bank, but the regulations is the obstacles.
Value will rise? Depends on the demands. Supply < demands = price rise, vise versa.
11  Economy / Marketplace / Are You Interested to buy physical goods and what you feel secure? on: February 03, 2017, 06:44:54 PM
The problem for such physical seller is the shipping works. In my country the cost of shipping worldwide is pretty much than the price of goods and the guaranteed to the integrality of goods is the considering, actually it can use an insurance but of course add an extra cost.
How you think? Are you interested?
12  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Over 100 Migrant Workers Test Blockchain Remittance in Thailand on: February 03, 2017, 06:30:37 PM
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Sending and currency conversion both happened in less than a minute and incurred no transaction fees.

The company showed good services to presenting such services especially in massive scale which people can aware about this technology, it's can boost cryptocurrency system to high level.
But the lack is the education for use, ok it's successful has been remittances but they can continue to use it again in the future? It's need more learn and understanding.
13  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin going to 2,000 $ soon ? why not ? on: February 03, 2017, 06:09:51 PM
What do you think guys ?

With the current situation related to news, it will have a chance even if it's at least just reached near to such price, the trend will go rise, especially if it's pushed by new innovation from startup, because the investors nowadays prefer to such startup and with long term investment.
14  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: February 03, 2017, 05:56:36 PM
Today the price is bitcoin is really high and momentum has come that price of bitcoin will increase to 1100$. But don't look for higher profit because once it dumped back to 900$ to gain the price, again it will take some to reach to 1000$.

High and stable than a years ago. There's possible the price will rise again, you should take an analysis to take a decision and profit, the fundamental is very influence to the market recently, but also for more a certainty the technical is necessary, look at the chart history and the resistance.
15  Economy / Economics / Re: Complementary currencies and bitcoin on: February 03, 2017, 05:30:23 PM
That's good idea, with bitcoin recently can help country from inflation. But I'm not sure when I read the site and said it's physical currency, it's mandatory to be a physical? If physical bitcoin, it's need at least paper wallet to make it real, the problem is how educate people to create it, if the paper wallet create by the coordinators from the community, is that need a high trusted.
16  Economy / Economics / Re: How is the capital found? on: February 02, 2017, 05:45:54 PM
How can someone who has no capital find the capital needed to start his own business?
Credit, Debt etc. What are alternative ways like?

Through crowd funding(bank for the future site is good one for you to start) or find investors. Nowadays the investors prefer to investing in start-up, it can be a chance for you to looking for.
It's back to your project and how you presenting your idea, plan and development. Awesome presentation is the key to attract such investors.
Keep in your mind, mostly bitcoin players is come from a trader and an investors, the rest is just a faucet hunter(lol).
17  Economy / Economics / Re: What Will it Take For BTC to Reach $1000? on: February 02, 2017, 05:36:22 PM
I do not think you're going to go for 1,000$  right now, and there's a downward bend. In this direction, when too many people fall down, they will start buying again.

There may be a decline in February. But I do not think you're going to go down the level right now. If the level is as low as $ 1000, it's hard to predict, but at the end of the year it could go up to the right.



You should look at the facts before, when price reaches bitcoin over $1000 it does take a long time, and your predictions in the early February will decline it's wrong, but the price is bitcoin's getting close and back to $1000 and it should not require the end of the year. in my opinion the end of the years bitcoin can reach over $2000. even, I expect the price could go to $10.000 as written in this article https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-price-will-reach-10000-might-take-another-year-tim-draper

That's just a speculation, but not impossible if it's will happens in the future with the current price movement and the "little good news" about bitcoin spike bitcoin price up.
It's has been reached $1k now, In same day I see the news about bitcoin price rise $1k in China and korea, also current news about WU shares drop in mexico and bitcoin the solutions for them. It's not really big news but the effect good for bitcoin.
18  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Is Bitcoin Trading and Why It's risky? on: February 02, 2017, 05:11:35 PM
Trading is simple, when the price is low it is time to buy it
and sell when the price is high.

For newbie these words seems to very simple because newbie thinks that bitcoin trading is very easy. Off course bitcoin trading is easy but you need patience when it come bitcoin trading. Some time the price will be very high you cannot able to buy them, so you need to be very active when comes to trading.

It's sounds like this trading activity just watch the chart for a long day, i would say it's not efficient. Better to learn how analyze fundamental and technical in trading, if you are already proficient you don't need to watch price movement for a long day, just makes a limit order to buy/sell.

Yes of course the patience is necessary to manage the risk, there's no free risk in any aspects, manage it will decreased the risk or even can be a profit.
19  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the business logic of bot software? on: February 02, 2017, 04:59:04 PM
In general, no one recommends the use of bot software.

What is the logic of the running bot software? Can we add our own trading algorithms to these software?

Adding and modify the algorithm for bot is far better than just use bot not modify. Basically the bot is doing a conditions, choose an option which have been wrote and do looping (it's depends on how your algorithm works). So if the conditions is not follow the trends it's just makes you lose. Bot help you doing a trading more efficient and easier.
As far as I know you can write your own algorithm, it's used programming language of course but you can learn it. Use meta trader software.
20  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Any Bitcoin escrow service? on: February 01, 2017, 09:27:36 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0
That's escrowers list not this forum. AFAIK escrow can handle any transaction from what you want to trade.
Looks like you wrong section, it's should be in beginners & help section.
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