Anyone receive their coins yet? Still waiting
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I feel confident as an investor once again, moon pies everyone?
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Just as a matter of interest can anyone recall how much time elapsed between the start of trade on Mintpal and the notice that deposits/withdrawals were suspended due to issues with the wallets? Because that's the only period for which it can be claimed that this was a functional coin.
Perhaps it could be repackaged and relaunched as the NorwegianBlueCoin.
Lol NorwegianBlueCoins
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Moolah has just stated they will slowly release funds (staggered) through out months, this is really good news guys I think you don't understand what this means. This will insure that the devs continue development, I agree this is a great idea.
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My name is Alex, I am the Founder and CEO of Moopay LTD; the organization responsible for https://moolah.io, https://mintpal.com (as of recently) and a few other subsidiary entities. I have the final authority and say in relation to what happens in regards to funds raised from the ICO. The decision with a refund lies solely with me as the primary mediator. At this stage, I would like to make it clear that we have not made a decision, and anybody stating MOOLAH SAYS NO REFUNDS, is quite frankly making stuff up. I would like to start out by pointing out how this ICO/IPO is different. Firstly, the fact that there is a refund clause full stop is exceptionally rare. With other initial offering coins, you generally have little to no protection, and no recourse in a worst case scenario. We entered in to a partnership with Syscoin in order to provide this protection, and the fact that this protection is here, should give you some measure of comfort. When the coin launched, it worked. It stopped working fairly early on, but the fact of the matter is that the coin was working at launch. Unlike other escrow providers that would have released then and there, we requested an inspection period which would allow us to ensure that the coin would continue to work; and in return, would provide the Syscoin team with a window of opportunity to fix any issues that may pop up. We did this to protect the people that invested in the coin, because to be blunt; the coin met obligations at launch. However, issues rapidly appeared. These issues were critical, and resulted in the coin being moved in to an unusable state. As a result of this, we continued to monitor the situation for 48 hours - and after repeated fixes that didn't help, gave the Syscoin team an ultimatum that they had 48 hours to fix the major issues. That ultimatum expires in 3 hours, and still stands. Our roughly checklist for when this ultimatum expires is as follows: - At 6PM GMT, is the blockchain in a working state? DDOS attacks on the blockchain at this time will be taken in to account.
- At 6PM GMT, is the QT wallet in a functional state for the majority of users? It does not need to expose the full daemon feature set.
- At 6PM GMT, are 3 out of 4 core services available on the main net, via the daemon?
- At 6PM GMT, if all 4 services are not on the main net, is the missing service available on the testnet, via the daemon?
- Does the wallet require a full rescan on each launch? If so, is this something that can be fixed in a timely fashion?
- Can the wallet be opened without causing data corruption on each launch? If isolated issues are being reported, what is the plan for deploying a fix?
If the majority of issues have been resolved, and the remaining issues are deemed not urgent / critical ( e.g. Can I send and receive coins via the QT client, and do some service stuff via the daemon, and not worry about closing my wallet for the most part) - then we will speak with the Syscoin team and request that a clear timeline and roadmap be published to the general public. We have requested that in a scenario where there are any issues, including minor remaining, that we move to a staggered release of funds - where they would receive X BTC each month in order to ensure continued development. We will not be taking the current price of the coin in to account when deciding whether or not that the ICO merits a refund. This is a risk that any investor makes, and it happens to everybody in the end. We will not be showing bias to the Syscoin team, but we will also not be caving to the FUD being spread around be a small subset of users. Our role is mediation and arbitration, and we will exercise a neutral viewpoint in order to do this effectively. tl;dr No refunds. Apparently you cannot read. Try again. its a good idea to release the funds staggered, which ensures the progress of development and is also lowering the pressure to just "finish" things and it should bring some calming down effect. +1 I agree, staggered release puts me at ease.
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Way I see it is coin has hit bottom (a few times) around 400. Considering launch and forks, that's pretty good. Meaning that once issues get fixed, you should see upside. Devs are working.
Not interested in that. We have a right to get our money back according to initial agreement. Even if the price rises, Moolah not refunding us will be breaching terms of agreement. Would you refund investors if you personally invested 140 btc and kill your profit, no. Instead would you secretly impose an additional 48 deadline, I would... https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/501022140230299648
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Is this true? On top of the ipo there is an additional 16.3%? dont take my word for it. calculate it, its simple maths. the premine is 16.3% of the current supply. they also own a further 15% ontop of the 16.3%, which was purchased through buy walls (250btc) on mintpal, moolah also was allowed to exceed the max buy of 25btc per investor, and has brought 120btc worth, as confirmed by his twitter. so all in all, between syscoin and moolah, they own over 50% of syscoins, and an additional 1500bitcoins from us investors. seems everyones loaded, except the investors. Of course they gave the 250 btc back, it's peanuts!!!! Wow
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Is this true? On top of the ipo there is an additional 16.3%?
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WOW just WOW!!! Cant believe this thread. You all know about the moolah deadline right? It is today for god sake! You are asking for refunds instantly?! It doesnt work that way, sorry... Did you invest last penny in syscoin so you could get rich in 24h after the launch?! This is not that kind of a coin dumbasses.
I support the buy walls because all the doubters and haters could exit, so after that coin can go back to positive vibes and innovations...
@Devs please make a statement about that hot topic so the morons could calm down..
Name calling makes your whole statement invalid, haters? What's are you 16 with a swag fag hat tilted to the left? good day sir
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Give us our BTC back!
The terms of ICO were not met! This is beyond discussion.
Coin failed to launch properly. I agree, none of us agreed on 48 h deadline. We deserve our money back. Don't be greedy!
+100000
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You want to use it like a commodity, it seems. In the short to medium term at most. An investment is for the long term. If you want to call yourself an investor, then think and act like one. You should have considered the risk of a glitched launch, possible scammery on the part of the devs, possible IMMEDIATE drop in market value, blah blah blah ... ad nauseum. What you are asking for is to be put on welfare. Already. Instead of waisting money on buy walls why don't you give early investors an incentive for believing in your plans before fumbling the launch, some extra coins? Like a thanks for believing in us when we screwed up the lauch type scenario, ya know?
Whatever dev does, you feel it is negative. Nothing can satisfy you .. please gtfo Stop kissing Ass, and stop falling in love with a coin, that's how people get burnt. It's real simple, this is an investment to make $$money$$ nothing more. The devs have been doing their best to fix things but they did drop the ball, don't you think? I'm not going to praise them when my money and time is on the line a neither should you. What don't you understand, your ico entry point is gone!! You waisted time pre purchasing when the general public now has a better position, are you taking crazy pills? I believe we deserve something for their colossal screw up, don't you? That's where your wrong buddy, I did consider a screwy launch so I bought some sys and made my investment back already selling at 1000k I think it would go a long way if devs said "hey, thanks for believing in us guys.. even though we messed up, here's some sys to make up for our incompetence" it's a suggestion not a demand. They can do whatever they want. I know full well nothing is guaranteed, especially in the land of crypto.
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Rushing band aid fixes to release funds.. let's hope this team is still motivated once the incentive is gone
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Yes.. I have a newbie account, still doesn't change the fact that even pool operators and exchanges are having difficulty with the wallet. I'm not here to fud, I think we've all been burned by devs promising the next best thing since bitcoin.. I apologize if my concerns and questioning as an investor have been portrayed as fud. Everything seems to be getting better now and hopefully it's smooth sailing from now on. Still feel moolah should have been more transparent especially since they've personally invested https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/501022140230299648 in syscoin but it is what it is I guess..
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Just a fyi moolah has personally invested 140 BTC..non biased my Ass, theyre involved..
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Are they putting any effort in getting the half assed wallet running or our they concentrating on only the fork? Adding files and deleting values and adding in nodes in my book, is not a completed wallet.
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Best solution that could save the coin? After getting the escrowed funds place it all at 518 satoshi level. Really, anyone who wants to exit could exit and the rest will be left for the development.
Wow that's an elegant solution. I agree with you man I think this is more then fair. I'm not even completely upset about losing my investment, I can afford it but seeing all that btc going to the devs after this is a slap in the face. All escrow funds at 518 is fair!!
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We are in a terrible entry point gents.. the ico was a complete fail. We have gained nothing by being early investors.. no advantage what so ever. I suggest you dump what you can and rebuy at a new much lower entry. Good luck guys, Thank god I bought at 700 and sold to unlucky chaps at 1010..
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I like this price, New investor. Can anyone give me a quick breakdown on where you guys are at. Very attractive price, May throw some coins at this
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