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661  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why cryptocurrency usually recovery in the weekend? on: October 01, 2018, 03:58:40 PM
I am curious about the price of cryptocurrency usually recovery in the weekend even most of cryptocurrency are in the downtrend ?
 

Yes, sometimes in weekends cryptocurrencies recovering in terms of price, but I do not agree with you that this is happening every weekend. It could be that times to times it comes true but it's just coincidences. 
662  Economy / Marketplace / Re: issues on the internet on: October 01, 2018, 03:48:35 PM
To Influence the whole cryptocurrencies market you should to be one of the few people whose opinions or statements on one or another issue, and become one of such people starting from now and from scratch I think it is not possible. Because even a big community like this forum I think has a really small effect on this market.
663  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The 10 largest holders of bitcoins on: October 01, 2018, 03:38:08 PM

In 2009, one bitcoin was given less than $ 0.1. Since then, the cryptocurrency has significantly risen in price and now costs more than $ 6,500 per coin. Incredible growth over the past nine years has created many new millionaires. Here are a dozen of the largest holders of bitcoins in history.

1. Satoshi Nakamoto


Creator bitcoin, hiding behind the pseudonym of Satoshi Nakamoto, remains the largest holder of bitcoins. Currently, his fortune is estimated at 1.1 million coins - and consists entirely of bitcoins mined with the help of mining in the early days of the existence of crypto currency. At their current cost, it exceeds $ 6 billion. At the same time, Nakamoto never spent his bitcoins, converted them into ordinary currencies, and did not use them for any other purpose. If he decided to sell his savings, the cost of bitcoin would instantly collapse.

2. Bulgaria


Bulgaria has one of the largest "chests" with bitcoins. But how did this small European country become the owner of a crypto currency for a huge sum? The fact is that in May 2017 during the Bulgarian police arrested members of an organized criminal group and seized 213 519 BTC from them. This amount of cryptocurrency is enough to pay off a quarter of the country's national debt. According to the authorities, the criminals used their technical skills to interfere with the work of the tax system. As of July 2018, the value of virtual coins is estimated at more than $ 1.3 billion. The Bulgarian government does not disclose any further intentions with regard to coins.

3. BitFinex


BitFinex has one of the largest stocks of bitcoins in the world. At present, its accounts hold 163,133.38 BTC for a total cost of approximately $ 1 billion. It is believed that coins are stored in a cold purse to protect against cyber attacks, unauthorized access and other vulnerabilities that threaten systems connected to the Internet.

4. FBI


In the past, the FBI acted as one of the largest known owners of bitcoins. In September 2013, the bureau confiscated the Silk Road servers, the famous online drugstore, and seized 144,000 BTC owned by site owner Ross Ulbricht, known as Dread Pirate Roberts. Ulbricht admitted a critical negligence that allowed investigators to locate servers and link them to them. According to some estimates, since the site was founded in 2011 more than 9.5 million bitcoins have passed through it. Then the FBI sold most of the coins, but this case is worth mentioning, because at some point the bureau was the owner of a whole bitcoin-state. Most of the captured coins were acquired by Barry Zilbert.

5. The Winklevoss Brothers


Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss were among the first to become bitcoin-billionaires. They gained fame when they sued the general director of Facebook Mark Zuckerberg, accusing him of stealing the idea. Zuckerberg turned to them for help in creating the site ConnectU, which later turned into Facebook.

Of the $ 65 million received as compensation, they spent 11 million to buy 1.5 million bitcoins in 2013. Then one bitcoin cost about $ 120. Since then, their investment has grown more than 200 times.

According to some reports, twins control 1% of all bitcoins in circulation. Their combined state is estimated at $ 400 million. The brothers founded Windex, financed several bitcoins and invested $ 1.5 million in BitInstant.

6. Gavin Andresen


Bitcoin is considered the brainchild of Satoshi Nakamoto, but it was Gavin Andresen who turned it into what the crypto currency is today. Periodically, there are suspicions that the legendary Satoshi Nakamoto is Gavin, but he denies this in every possible way. Andresen argues that for many years he closely communicated with the inventor of bitcoin. At the end of 2010, Nakamoto chose him as his successor. Gavin became the main developer of the code that underlies bitcoin and determines its viability. The Bitcoin Foundation once paid him more than 200 thousand dollars in bitcoins for his contribution to the development of the crypto currency. Andresen has already sold some of his cryptos.

7. Roger Ver


Roger Ver, also known as Bitcoin-Jesus, is one of the first crypto-billionaires. It is believed that he owns at least 100,000 BTC. A famous libertarian left college to focus on crypto-currency projects. Unlike other rich people who buy islands and planes, Ver wants to create their own libertarian country, where every person is the absolute owner of his own life and can do with it and his property whatever he wants. In 2014, he renounced his American citizenship and moved to a small island in the Caribbean.

8. Barry Silbert


Barry Silbert is a venture capitalist and founder of the Digital Currency Group. He is one of the first bitcoin enthusiasts. According to some reports, in 2014, Zilbert purchased 48,000 BTC at an auction held by the Federal Marshals Service. Authorities confiscated the crypto currency from Ross Ulbricht, the creator of the site for drug trafficking and other illicit goods. Bitcoin was then worth $ 350, and $ 16.8 million invested by the tycoon turned into $ 288 million.

9. Charlie Shrem


Charlie Schrem, without a doubt, is one of the most controversial bitcoins of billionaires. He invested large sums in the crypto currency at the dawn of its existence. Shrem was an active member of the Bitcoin Foundation and founded BitInstant at the age of only 22 years. At the end of December 2014, he was found guilty of money laundering and received a two-year prison term. Coming out of confinement, he founded an start-up Intellisys Capital, which sells investment portfolios in block projects. The size of the Shröm crypto-currency state is not exactly known. According to some reports, he bought several thousand bitcoins, when their price did not exceed a couple of hundred dollars. Now they would be worth millions.

10. Tony Gallippi


The well-known business tycoon Tony Gallippi is considered one of the largest holders of the bitcoins. In May 2011, he founded BitPay, a popular payment service using bitcoins. By 2014, his daily turnover overcame a mark of 1 million dollars, and the number of employees exceeded 100 people. Bitpay also signed contracts with representatives of large businesses, including Microsoft, Dell, TigerDirect and Newegg.

Conclusion:

By some estimates, one thousand of the largest addresses account for about 35% of all bitcoins in circulation. Many people control significant amounts of cryptocurrency, but prefer to remain anonymous.

Thank you all for attention!



This top ten with these who have the most Bitcoin incorrectly written. You can not put the institutions on the same list or even the whole country along with the real people, it should be separated. But looking side by side this list looks correct.
664  Economy / Lending / Re: Need .3 BTC Loan Please! on: September 30, 2018, 08:39:55 PM
Hi Bitcointalk,

I would like a loan for $2000-2500 USD. The principal will be paid back in full plus interest in 30 days. Please review my post history.

For collateral, I have high-end collector sneakers that are 120%+ of the loan amount. I can provide dated and tagged photos/videos to confirm I have possession and will be sending them to you. You can verify the value of the sneakers on (https://www.goat.com) or StockX (https://stockx.com/) to confirm the models and values.

Thank you.

Just find local pawn shop, and try get loan there, here no one can't help you( just think how much it would cost to send such quantities of sneakers to another country, in addition to paying taxes)
665  Economy / Lending / Re: Anyone need a loan? on: September 30, 2018, 05:49:08 PM
Just keep in mind that as long as you do not enough trust, collateral should be secured by trusted escrow agent.
666  Economy / Speculation / Re: Settled at ~$6400 for now? on: September 30, 2018, 05:40:06 PM
but expect the unexpected

This 100%. Very important wisdom for anyone involved in crypto!

In short, we can say that all of this market is based on the forecast, which is basically the speculations, and other people predictions. So the market always moves as it wants and no one know whet will be happening in the future. And the only thing that we can do is to expect something unexpected, did i understand correctly?
667  Economy / Lending / Re: Need loan 0.3 BTC (Closed) Reason im newbie and its bigger amount. on: September 30, 2018, 10:15:25 AM
If you start new topic asking of loan, his one should be locked,   down in left corner "Lock topic".

668  Economy / Lending / Re: LOAN 0.3 on: September 30, 2018, 09:59:43 AM
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if you need any collateral we can do something.

If you can offer something as collateral , please post here, otherwise you have no chance to get the loan.
669  Economy / Lending / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Quick-Loans & Escrow 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ on: September 29, 2018, 01:13:34 PM
Code:
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I am rizkyhiw from bitcointalk.org, today is 29/September/2018. I am asking for loan worth 0.195 from zazarb  as discussed earlier will pay it back on 30th of Oct with 0.205 repayment later. Pls send it to this address 17CmuFfsxWR8YB6R5xuusELuwDPVkzJx5f
Kindly,
rizkyhiw
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Accepted, message verified, amount sent via txid 5aeedd7f71177581e8705892fba0645977a750889514f843f506c5cf9f45c2ba

repayment address 3EzR7Qx1FH93XUiHPSvyuuPFXjbpimhqSm
670  Economy / Speculation / Re: The future price of bitcoin? on: September 28, 2018, 01:10:55 PM
There are a lot of things that are doing the whole thing on the market. But the basics are simple and pretty much the same as in all markets  it is supply and demand. if demand is high then prices rise, if demand is low, prices fall. So in my opinion this market future will determine demand, if a lot of people believe in Bitcoin future, the price will continue to increase and the future of Bitcoin will be safe.
671  Economy / Speculation / Re: What are the impactors of Bitcoin price? on: September 28, 2018, 01:07:02 PM
There are a lot of things that are doing the whole thing on the market. But the basics are simple and pretty much the same as in all markets  it is supply and demand. if demand is high then prices rise, if demand is low, prices fall. Also in my opinion on this market a strongly influenced have founding father of bitcoin Satoshi himself. No one knows who he is and that's why I think It has a great influence on the whole market.
672  Economy / Speculation / Re: Predictions if Bitcoin ETFs are approved on: September 28, 2018, 12:49:57 PM
There are several groups trying to create cryptocurrency ETFs.What will happen to the value of bitcoin if Bitcoin ETFs are approved ?

It is hard to say, how the all market will react after announcement of the verdict , no matter what it will be. The only solution and the right answer to your question would be,  that we we have to be patient, and wait for the verdict so that we can see for themselves how the market will react.
673  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will the price of Bitcoin break below the $6,000 support level? on: September 28, 2018, 12:43:41 PM
I really doubt it will happen, and even if that really happens this should take a very short time.Just because even Bitcoin mining costs now more higher than before and in the current period it is about 5800$ and this is determined that this support is much stronger than others think.
674  Economy / Speculation / Re: btc's next moves on: September 28, 2018, 12:31:08 PM
One more time everybody try to predict the future of Bitcoin price, and like always there is two type of people. First type is telling us what Bitcoin will skyrocket in price after couple days, and second type telling us what this is not the end and the price will go down more..But in reality neither one or the other does not lie, they just telling us their opinions, because no one really can tell how the price will move in real life.
675  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Some Bulls Expect Bitcoin to Fall Below $5,000 Prior to Big Rally on: September 28, 2018, 12:14:21 PM
I think these people are like that people who always expects the price to fall more than it is now, but when the price is definitely reduced to that limit which they expect the price to fall, they never buy it anyway, because when they hoping that the price will drop even more.
676  Economy / Speculation / Re: The occurrence of bitcoin price movements from year to year on: September 27, 2018, 08:19:18 AM
Everything we see, is that the price always fluctuates. But price comes up from a general point of view. However, at the end of the year there not always should be a rise in prices, so this year is not guaranteed to be more successful than the year in the pass.
677  Economy / Speculation / Re: When is bitcoin bouncing back on: September 27, 2018, 08:09:14 AM
We have been experiencing serious downtrend in bitcoin. Some people have been holding bitcoin since alt high $19500 December last year till date $6761 (six months ago).

My question is When are we going to experience pump/bouncing back to previous alt high?


In my opinion you will not get correct answer to your question, everything you will know is another's person's prediction, So if it satisfies you , I said that you need patience because of the price later or earlier will recover.
678  Economy / Lending / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Quick-Loans & Escrow 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ on: September 27, 2018, 05:56:56 AM
Code:
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I am rizkyhiw from bitcointalk.org, today is 01/September/2018. I am asking for loan worth 0.195 from zazarb  as discussed earlier will pay it back on 1st of Oct with 0.205 repayment later. Pls send it to this address 17CmuFfsxWR8YB6R5xuusELuwDPVkzJx5f
Kindly,
rizkyhiw
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accepted, amount sent via txid 89c819f01f274440e92100c6e54d6c684b0720ea4e363c2959698e00cb16d199

please repay on or before 1 st Oct to following address 3EzR7Qx1FH93XUiHPSvyuuPFXjbpimhqSm
The loan has been fully repaid . Please confirm about it and thanks for the help as usual zazarb

I confirm , that the loan has been repaid timely.
Thanks  and I look forward to a new deal in the future.
679  Economy / Speculation / Re: Billionaire Tim Draper Stands By Bullish $250,000 Bitcoin Price Target For 2022 on: September 26, 2018, 02:06:34 PM
$250k in 4 years by now is too much but I won't complain if it becomes a reality, trust me :p
But theory and practice are different. It's still a speculation and it will stay until proven. No idea why people don't call me Bitcoin analyst expert when I make such claims
As it is now, all we have in our hands is a theory and with the chart posted by WindFury and the consistent increase analysis Franky1 posted, I guess it seems like something that is quite close to being possible. However, we really do not know how the future is always going to play out but at least; it is worth keeping up the hope and optimism till then for those who really do not have any single idea why they invested in the market in the first place and the essence of focusing on the long term.

Theoretically, everything seems to be possible, and a ~3.466x price increase is really normal, but from the point of realistic view there is little promise that everything will be so good, and 250,000% in 2022 seems a little to much.
In the past bitcoin had brought all the theoretical into reality hence why not in coming days. In my speculation bitcoin may test $1 million levels too by 2022. Yes, it is still within Franky's calculations. He revealed the minimum of every year so far but the maximum is as per demand still. For example, as per his calculations the optimum price of 2013 is $12.13 but in open market we had experienced $1200 in 2013. (I assume you made a typo of % instead of $ Wink).

I partly agree with your opinion, your facts are true, but I'm left with my opinion, that Bitcoin price will not reach 250000$ in 2022. Of course, this is just my opinion.
680  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Holding Strong on: September 26, 2018, 02:00:29 PM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2018/04/22/bitcoin-continues-rebounding-after-april-17-tax-day/

It seems as though Bitcoin has remained at the heels of 9k even through all the doubt surrounding it. There is a lot of resistance currently at 9k as many have their sell orders set at this point. Bitcoin ha actually touched 9k for a short period of time before the sell orders brought it back down. As long as it keeps this pace there should be no doubt that a bull market is in the near future.

Good Luck Traders,
The Elysian Team


There is a lot of resistance currently at 9k and this is not nice, but on the other hand we should be happy , because we still have strong support at around 6k and this does not allow the price to fall down, but I think it's just a matter of time, when the price rise above 9k.
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