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361  Economy / Lending / Re: Shakaru / Andrew Nollan on: August 25, 2012, 04:48:00 PM
His mother, and outstanding member of the community,
removed


Added this to the OP. Thanks! Grin

Is Andrew a minor?  Did his mother sign for his debts?  If neither of these are true, then dox'ing her here is uncalled for and shouldn't be supported.
362  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 25, 2012, 04:24:45 PM
If you want to go another 500BTC in, I'm game ^_^

Serious question:
How are you going to fund >$100k in bets if you lose?

It isn't $100k in bets, its BTC.  Until you convert, it has no USD value.
363  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 25, 2012, 04:17:23 PM
Matt, you always suggest the 0.00001% scenario when making the non-Ponzi argument.  

Stephen Hawkings TV special recently taught me about "best fit reality" - i.e. when I leave my office and come back in an hour, my chair is always in the same spot I left it - I assume it has been sitting there the whole time I was gone.  But what if when I left my office, my chair opened the window and flew to the international space station then right before I get back in the room it flies back in, closes the window and returns to the exact same spot I left it an hour ago.  Of course my "best fit reality" is that it just stayed there the whole time.

99.99999999999%+ the chair was just there the whole time, but I can never be certain, however I'd bet Matt an additional 500BTC on every trial of that too.

Maybe we're all in the matrix and the chair never existed at all?
364  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: #BTCST Updates. Latest: August 23th 10:48PM EST on: August 25, 2012, 04:16:04 PM
Vampire, I appreciate you cleaning up your quotes. Smiley
365  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 25, 2012, 04:19:05 AM
Dude there is a big difference between not investing and starting a fucking crusade.

This is fair, but there's also a big difference between investing and attacking skeptics as FUDsters and worse.  I don't care what people want to do with their money, but a lot of the folks on this thread are culpable co-conspirators morally, if not legally.

There's a difference between being skeptical and calling someone a scammer.  Most of the FUDsters were claiming 100% irrefutable proof, when none existed.
366  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bryan Micon's BitcoinMax Discussion Thread [orignal thread locked] on: August 24, 2012, 12:45:32 PM
Ever close a business?  You don't just make the decision, turn the lights off, lock the doors, and walk out and call it done.  There's a process you must go through to make sure everything is taken care of. 

The list of 4/5 options is rather lacking in the options presented.
367  Economy / Gambling / Re: mem's BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST on: August 23, 2012, 05:54:23 PM
The fact that you trade with randoms to a degree of success on #bitcoin-otc speaks well for its community but offers absolutely 0 accountability.

Randoms?  They're established identities no less than your sites are.  What info do your sites publish as to who they are?  Has that info been vetted or is another Tom Williams and all the info is just fake?
368  Economy / Gambling / Re: mem's BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST on: August 23, 2012, 05:16:11 PM
So you would say that betting at the TAB is the same as betting a large unsecured amount with a random guy at the pub is the same as trading at wall street ?

1 of these things is not like the other, one of these things is not quite the same... do de do do do

Whether you're trading on a website or with a third party, you still have to trust them.  Just because you don't like Matthew doesn't mean he won't honor his obligations.  In fact, he's been around longer than your various 'safe' sites and AFAIK, he's yet to default.  So how exactly are your websites any safer?

More specifically, why should n00bs trust you over someone else, Mr. I just registered 4 months ago?
369  Economy / Gambling / Re: mem's BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST on: August 23, 2012, 04:48:34 PM
It is needless for an indivual to do so when we already have reputable sites setup to host these bets.

I guess we should close up #bitcoin-otc too since there are sites setup to trade coins.   Roll Eyes

there is a large difference between trading, gambling and "gambling via insecure and unaccountable methods".

If you need more information on the subtle differences Id be happy to elaborate.

No, whether you're "Trading" or "Gambling", its the same thing.  At some point, someone's gotta pay and the counter party has already done their part and the only thing holding them to it is their honor.
370  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. on: August 23, 2012, 04:43:03 PM
blah blah blah

I like ponzis

blah blah blah
371  Economy / Gambling / Re: mem's BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST on: August 23, 2012, 04:41:38 PM
It is needless for an indivual to do so when we already have reputable sites setup to host these bets.

I guess we should close up #bitcoin-otc too since there are sites setup to trade coins.   Roll Eyes
372  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS]Cheap Windows 7&8 key from MSDN on: August 23, 2012, 02:43:06 AM
why not offer a money back guarantee? When does windows 8 come out anyway?

Already RTM.  Available on MSDN and Technet since the 16th.  You can buy it online as an upgrade, but it doesn't ship until Oct.
373  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. on: August 23, 2012, 02:24:55 AM
Fair enough.  Bottom line is it was changed very recently.

How does changing one's privacy setting on facebook amount to anything?  I added a song I liked on facebook, I guess that means I'm a shill for that band.  Roll Eyes
374  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS]Cheap Windows 7&8 key from MSDN on: August 23, 2012, 02:23:39 AM
Microsoft has no way of knowing you are developing or gaming.
Plus, I've sold those keys for a year and none of my customers reported that their key is blocked

But they see activations coming from all over the world.  If you were using it in a lab, they'd be coming from the same subnet of ips.  Microsoft isn't exactly stupid you know.  They spend billions on this stuff.
375  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. on: August 23, 2012, 02:19:57 AM
It is visible, but the account has been recently deactivated (before it was possible to friend request him).  The two pictures that were publicly viewable are also no longer visible.

No, its a privacy setting.  You have to be within his L2 of friends to try to friend him.  You should try it.
376  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. on: August 23, 2012, 02:14:01 AM

No it hasn't. Its still visible.  Try again.
377  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Putting your money where Pirate's mouth is. on: August 22, 2012, 03:47:14 PM
Yes exactly. theft can be of any asset of value, even bitcoins. Lack of research does not mitigate the crime of theft. If Pirate does not return people's money in a reasonable amount of time then he should be prosecuted for theft and fraud. Contacting the District Attorney is definitely the right thing to do. I would recommend have a few spokesperson's and gathering as many names as you can for submission to the DA's office. If nothing else it may create a little pressure on pirate to speed up the refunds if he really intends to do so. If not the sooner action is taken the sooner the damage can be mitigated before the coins are cashed out and Pirate is sipping rum on beach, located in a country without extradition to the US.

You couldn't even get a scummy debt collector to touch this until 30 days have passed. 
378  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Hey Pirate, it's Monday....WHERE ARE MY BITCOINS ? on: August 22, 2012, 03:10:10 PM
Also, pirates are not generally known for running legitimate businesses.

If we were to be judged based only on our forum nicks, you'd already be at an extreme disadvantage.

AT THE SAME TIME not judging by name at all puts you in a similar kind of disadvantage.


Have you heard of Jimmy Buffet?
379  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Hey Pirate, it's Monday....WHERE ARE MY BITCOINS ? on: August 22, 2012, 01:42:46 PM
NO LEGIT BUSINESS BORROWS AT 7% PER WEEK
According to this message "Everyone on the pro-pirate team says he is pretty rich in USD anyway so he can take some BTC losses or W/E". Is that really true?

No.  I've not seen anyone say Pirate was USD rich.
380  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Hey Pirate, it's Monday....WHERE ARE MY BITCOINS ? on: August 22, 2012, 01:40:03 PM
Also, pirates are not generally known for running legitimate businesses.

If we were to be judged based only on our forum nicks, you'd already be at an extreme disadvantage.
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