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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much BTC have you gambled? (anonymous on: March 10, 2015, 11:35:52 AM
I have gambled over 200 btc, mostly on dice, and am at a decent profit of around 4 BTC. Not much , but still better than losing.
2  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTER.com hacked - 7170 BTC stolen [DON'T KEEP YOUR MONEY ON AN EXCHANGE] on: March 10, 2015, 08:33:38 AM
Oh, but there are no way Bter will refund 7100 btc with fee, so it doasn't matter if people will trade there or not.. I already forgot about my btc left there...
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For now, they have only promised to pay back, if they can recover by running the site . But ofcourse that will never happen.
3  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are faucets profitable on: March 10, 2015, 08:32:40 AM
Profitable yes. Worth it, no. Unless you can figure out a way to run bots to do all the work for you, its best to stay out of them .
Running them however might be worth it, if you can get a lot of traffic
4  Other / Off-topic / Re: uTorrent EpicScale bitcoin miner on: March 10, 2015, 07:52:14 AM
I think downgrading utorrent to to the 2.2.1 Version would be the best move for now, if you don't want to be running that software.  Its probably the most stable version out there.

It does seem they worded about the miner to avoid people from knowing its the miner they were running.
5  Other / Archival / Re: Best bitcoin faucets? on: March 10, 2015, 07:46:35 AM
I don't usually visit faucets, but love the concept of freebitco.in to multiply your bitcoin by the dice kind of game
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why PayPal and Bitcoin should partner up. on: March 10, 2015, 07:38:27 AM
Yes, I remember there was a news about PayPal and Bitcoin, a subcompany of PayPal accepted Bitcoin as a payment method, but it doesn't mean PayPal accepts Bitcoin too.

There was actually something new this morning about maybe new plans of paypal to integrate bitcoin
https://i.imgur.com/A1iGvXI.jpg

Don't know if it has been integrated though
7  Economy / Services / Re: Money Drop For The Homeless on: March 10, 2015, 04:32:19 AM
I wouldn't support this not because I'm against giving money to the homeless and supporting them to get off the streets but if you give directly there's a very high chance that money will end up funding drugs/alcohol. If you want to donate money to support homeless people then I'd recommend giving it through the more formalised and proper channels which is more likely to help the homeless people.

I think along the same lines. Instead of giving them money, its better to offer them meals and other kinds of things, which does not lead to them using the money for wrong things.
8  Other / Meta / Re: Self moderated threads are harmful - Part 2 on: March 07, 2015, 07:07:58 AM
As for Quicksellers trust now having being removed. Here are other facts.
1. Like i posted in the OP, my post was legit, there is no reason to delete it. I posted about Dean lying, and if I am not supposed to post that, then I don't see the point.
I might as well start a ponzi thread and who ever claims to not have received a payout, I would delete their post. And even if they start a scam accusation, not everyone will read it, and I will be successful in scamming.

2. Even some other users have posted legit claims and inconsistencies in the things Dean said, but even then Dean just deletes them. I see no reason why he should. So basically according to Dean anyone who is against him is a troll and gets autodeleted.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948771
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=927971.msg10439233#msg10439233



9  Other / Meta / Re: Self moderated threads are harmful - Part 2 on: March 07, 2015, 07:01:44 AM
Let me just point out a couple of facts . Firstly, Dean(Pocketrocketcasino) simply lies too many times on the forum about his claims. He would not have got a negative trust, if his story checks out. If you visit his forum ,even right now, you will see Dice site developer and game site developers questioning Dean's claims , almost every single day , both on the original thread and the Non-moderated thread

Now I wanted to defend myself and my part of the story.
There is no reason for me to for no reason Repeatedly ask for the bounty I was promised.
Those of you who don't know, I also uncovered the Dicebitco.in Scam , which had an investment of over 7K BTC and had scammed users of 100's and 100's of BTC probably more than a 1000. Basically in that scam, they had been , skipping rolls and had only been showing the losing ones.
Now , I didn't ask for a bounty or something, I came out with it in public. If I wanted to , I could have asked for a bounty of 20 BTC from them for that itself(as its basically outright cheating and would have put an end to their site, which it did) . And if I didn't post about it, and came out late with it, you know what would have been the problem ? People(Investors) would disapprove of my claim, if I gave DB time to cover up the rolls and database, to cover those missed rolls.But I posted immediately, and  This obviously, ended their site.

 At this time, I was also a decent high roller at PRC, and also got it a lot of players in that time after recommending it at DB's chat. IN a few days, I had the exact same issue of Rolls being skipped - LINK TO MY POST .
 However it wasn't all the losing ones, so I contacted Dean(PRC) and told him about it, and requested a bounty to be paid, after showing him and another trusted member the proof.

Now here is the part he lied about. So Just like before, if I didn't post about it, and gave him time to look at it, the site owner can always make changes to the database to fix the bug and put in those missing rolls.

For this reason, I requested the bounty to be paid before, because I didn't want to give him the time to fix those rolls in the database, because after that , it would make my claims useless. And People(Investors) like always won't care what I have to say.

But even after that he lied. Now, in the email correspondence I had with him , He said , that it was a UI BUg, which I didn't care about, as long as I got my bounty. But in the past, he has only blamed the people who bring bugs to him, and there was a very good chance, he would change the story, and put in the missing rolls if it actually was not a UI bug. And since he agreed to pay the bounty, All that I asked him was to send it now, because , once I give him time to fix, and post about it. The claims, will be refused and he will come up with something.

Now here is the Email conversation we had :




And the follow up right after that in Chat




Now as I said, he rather criticizes the people who found the bugs and posts outright lies about them, he did the same.
You can clearly, see me agreeing to the 1 BTC in the email he promised, and only requesting to be paid before and not giving him time to cover it up, But instead he lied and said, I didn't agree to 1 BTC and wanted more.  Now I really don't have a better example of him lying on things he say. Why wouldn't I go after the site, for blaming me instead when I came out with the bug, and I was rather claimed to be a liar by the dice site.
Now the only thing Dean does is, post lies and claim me to be lying. He also says I was not awarded the bounty, because I came out in public with it., But if I find a site cheating, which might be due to another error, which is not something to be sure of, then I it is right for me to come out and post about it in public.

I am not the only case of him refusing to be paid a bounty. Check his trust.

And here are some posts of a trusted member on here claiming Dean to be lying:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9489102#msg9489102
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9501191#msg9501191
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9490285#msg9490285
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9501235#msg9501235
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9488452#msg9488452


 
10  Other / Meta / Re: Self moderated threads are harmful - Part 2 on: March 06, 2015, 05:59:44 PM
I also want to ask you to start a thread and put proof.
I was very close to invest (yeah, a tiny amount, but still..) into his dice site, not believing the (only) negative feedback he had because it .. just sounded silly and had no proof for anything wrong done.

Some events made me change my mind and now, reading this, I .. feel lucky.


So yeah, please make a proper scam accusation. It'll help others.

Well, there is already another thread for it, but I doubt if a lot of people actually read it, as its on the front page of the gamble section not for long, so its not worth posting much there.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=960826.0  . Some other people have also expressed how their legit concern posts were deleted.


And some of the scam accusations and posts(you can avoid reading these if you don't want to go in deep) :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=779932
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9490285#msg9490285
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9598425#msg9598425
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=927971.msg10439233#msg10439233
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948771
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=853348.0

But in the end, everyone is free to their own opinion. I just posted this, as I felt, its not right to allow a questionable casino to moderate the thread in such a manner, as even someone who comes from outside the forum, won't really be looking at the other threads to see whats actually happening
11  Other / Meta / Re: Self moderated threads are harmful - Part 2 on: March 06, 2015, 05:00:49 PM
Instead of asking to remove moderated threads you should be asking to have PocketRocketsCasino warned or temperorily banned. Moderated threads aren't going to be removed, but constantly deleting replies in self moderated threads in places such as the marketplace or gambling is highly suspicious behavior.
deleating posts in a self moderated thread is not against any forum rule however it is scammy behavior. When it happens as often as it does with PRC, it is a good sign that they are probably scamming so negative trust should be appropriate but no action by a moderator on behalf of the forum would be appropriate.

Yes, scams aren't moderated. Prior to leaving a negative feedback, I would suggest you to sum up the details and open a scam accusation thread and link that thread in 'negative feedback'. It will give more weight to it because if there is no reference, PocketRocketCasinos can tell they are jealous or they didn't like me etc...

   -MZ

There is a scam accusation thread on the forum from few months back already. But overall that would just bring a negative trust on Dean , which already exists due to one.
But still that doesn't stop people from investing in the site, but thats the decision they are entitled to

I just don't like the fact, that when something wrong happens, and I(or some other guys like espringe) post about it(even with a legitimate question), he still deletes it, and threatens me with the message.
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: PocketRocketsCasino.eu -- Unmoderated Thread on: March 06, 2015, 04:56:18 PM
Here's an open-offer to anyone to anyone who trusts Dean:


Why does that have to be true Tongue
Do you feel the people who don't trust him will have their affliate payouts blocked ?
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: PocketRocketsCasino.eu -- Unmoderated Thread on: March 06, 2015, 04:27:01 PM

Remember Dean's running higher-edge games now - roulette and lottery - and bankrolling them himself. Maybe he's making enough from those that he thinks he can afford to pay 30% referrals. The problem is that there's no apparently limit on the 30% referral, and since it appears to be +EV, it will attract a lot of action.


Wow, it seems this will attract all the luckyb.it crowd as well. Just create a referral for yourself(which obviously, can easily be faked), and win a lot of money. If you lose you still get a lot of it back.

But if you lose a lot, then maybe, Dean will reconsider if he wants to pay you the 30% or not. or maybe, he will just gamble against the investors to pay that amount off.
14  Other / Meta / Re: Self moderated threads are harmful - Part 2 on: March 06, 2015, 01:40:12 PM
ALso, just after that ,I get this message from him:

Stop posting in my thread.
I owe you nothing because a) you found no bug b) you didn't report properly what it was you thought you found.
I already reported your group before and that's why one of them got banned for a week.
They didn't ban you because you had stopped for a bit but said I should report you next time.
If you post again after this next delete I will report you again.



Is it also right for him to threaten me with this ? And mods agreeing to ban him(from what he says) , if what I posted is true
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9592998#msg9592998



As annoying as it may be if someone self-moderates a thread you don't have to post in it and if you don't like their actions you are free to create your own thread in response. You can be banned from repeatedly posting in a self-modded thread when you have been asked not to so be careful with that.

Thanks for that .I haven't officially been warned by any of the staff here. It was just him warning me directly.
However as for the moderation allowed, not everyone reads the other threads. And if someone is actually trolling on the selfmoderated thread, then they would automatically be banned by the staff after 1 warning. So whats the point of allowing the self moderated thread ?

The op also keeps lying about a lot of things, and says he auto deletes the posts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=960826.msg10511650#msg10511650

So how am I supposed to reply to that ? I can't possibly just quote every reply of his and reply back in the self moderated thread.
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: PocketRocketsCasino.eu -- Unmoderated Thread on: March 06, 2015, 01:12:34 PM
After Dean deleted my post on the original post. Thought would just post it here.

New affiliate program
Earn up to 30% revenue from players you refer!

You can earn up to 30% of the monthly revenue of players you refer to Pocket Rockets Casino across all games.

How are you defining 'revenue' here? Is it the amount players wager? The amount the lose? The amount you take as commission from their bets? Something else?

And what does "up to" mean? Sounds like some people will earn less than 30%. How is that decided?

Are there other rules? I seem to remember a dispute in the past where you refused to pay out when someone referred you a bunch of players because you didn't like something he did. It was a while ago now so I forget the details. Are the terms and conditions available somewhere?

You can read more here https://pocketrocketscasino.eu/affiliate.
Revenue is players loss that month.

The dispute you are referring to was BAY who gave me negative trust, unjustifiably, because I stopped his affiliate account after he sold/rented a domain with my brand name in it to a competitor. He was paid. He lost future payments which would have totalled a very insignificant amount under the old structure. That's a very valid reason to stop someone's account.

Are you sure it was after he sold your domain ? As far as I remember the domain was sold, after you cut his affliates pay.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9501235#msg9501235

16  Other / Meta / Self moderated threads are harmful - Part 2 on: March 06, 2015, 01:03:39 PM
Hi, I remember espringe starting a similar thread about self moderated threads last month right here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948771

But here is the thing. Today, this happened

Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

Quote
New affiliate program
Earn up to 30% revenue from players you refer!

You can earn up to 30% of the monthly revenue of players you refer to Pocket Rockets Casino across all games.

How are you defining 'revenue' here? Is it the amount players wager? The amount the lose? The amount you take as commission from their bets? Something else?

And what does "up to" mean? Sounds like some people will earn less than 30%. How is that decided?

Are there other rules? I seem to remember a dispute in the past where you refused to pay out when someone referred you a bunch of players because you didn't like something he did. It was a while ago now so I forget the details. Are the terms and conditions available somewhere?

You can read more here https://pocketrocketscasino.eu/affiliate.
Revenue is players loss that month.

The dispute you are referring to was BAY who gave me negative trust, unjustifiably, because I stopped his affiliate account after he sold/rented a domain with my brand name in it to a competitor. He was paid. He lost future payments which would have totalled a very insignificant amount under the old structure. That's a very valid reason to stop someone's account.

Are you sure it was after he sold your domain ? As far as I remember the domain was sold, after you cut his affliates pay.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9501235#msg9501235

Also, just as a reminder, I am still waiting for my bounty here.

Basically The owner of a casino, who has a negative trust who runs a casino site in a shady way , posted a lie:
The dispute you are referring to was BAY who gave me negative trust, unjustifiably, because I stopped his affiliate account after he sold/rented a domain with my brand name in it to a competitor. He was paid. He lost future payments which would have totalled a very insignificant amount under the old structure. That's a very valid reason to stop someone's account.

Now I replied " Are you sure it was after he sold your domain ? As far as I remember the domain was sold, after you cut his affliates pay.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9501235#msg9501235 "
Which was in reponse to his outright lie.


Now I posted to tell he is lying, but he currently has the right to delete the posts. Should this be allowed on the thread ? I see no reason , why he should take advantage of the moderation to legit questions on the thread.


ALso, just after that ,I get this message from him:

Stop posting in my thread.
I owe you nothing because a) you found no bug b) you didn't report properly what it was you thought you found.
I already reported your group before and that's why one of them got banned for a week.
They didn't ban you because you had stopped for a bit but said I should report you next time.
If you post again after this next delete I will report you again.



Is it also right for him to threaten me with this ? And mods agreeing to ban him(from what he says) , if what I posted is true
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg9592998#msg9592998

17  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwCpoker.eu | No Banking, Only Bitcoin | Bitcoin Poker 2.0 LIVE NOW! on: March 05, 2015, 04:59:22 AM
My old login credentials are not working. What is the recipie to log in?

Basically have your old account linked to an email on the old site.
Then on the new site after some time, hit forgot password with the old username details and it will send you a request to change your password
18  Economy / Gambling / Re: NitrogenSports.eu - SPORTSBOOK - POKER - BLACKJACK on: March 04, 2015, 07:09:19 PM
And its back now. Surprisingly got to go through CLoudfare while accessing it. Was it just added ?
19  Economy / Gambling / Re: NitrogenSports.eu - SPORTSBOOK - POKER - BLACKJACK on: March 04, 2015, 07:04:54 PM
Seems it went down again. Might be a DDos attach happening on the site or maybe an update
20  Economy / Gambling / Re: NitrogenSports.eu - SPORTSBOOK - POKER - BLACKJACK on: March 04, 2015, 06:18:45 PM
Its back now, but I can;t seem to login. Keeps loading


Back for me now. And I was able to login . Try again maybe.
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