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181  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: PCI based Mining hardware? Instead of GPUs on: August 27, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
because mining didn't need a computer.  Cheesy
it's possible to use a DD-WRT based router instead.
182  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - accept bitsteam developer's orders. on: August 24, 2012, 10:12:19 AM
I also got my DEV kit today. Thank you very much, you are a professional!

 Grin looks like EMS is much faster these days.
183  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - accept bitsteam developer's orders. on: August 23, 2012, 04:08:46 PM
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Coz there's supposed to be an i in there?

You are right the i helped Smiley

Thank you kano + Ioshida

1LdwedmvYjyPT7qmRFpRThtd4bEKUdMexD @ http://glari.ch:9332/static/graphs.html

 Problems solved?  Huh
184  Economy / Securities / Re: [CRYPTOSTOCKS] (GMP) Glari Mining Project - P2Pool mining on: August 14, 2012, 04:20:39 AM
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Hello, Icoin!  I'm a GMP shareholder. Could You, please, update the status of the project?

Quote from Ngzhang: finished packaging work today. the international express agent picked it and will give me the tracking No. tomorrow.


  • Producer hardwaretest finished successfully
  • First batch of hardware is ready for shipping.
  • New shares issue will be stoped temporary, as soon shipping no. is delivered
  • First dividends payout as expected.


package sent yesterday. tracking NO. also sent by email.  Smiley
185  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - accept bitsteam developer's orders. on: August 06, 2012, 05:20:31 AM
2, TXD,RXD,CTS,RTS
3, ? ? ?

sch and PCB design files will release to github this week.
"Oh boy!" for not connecting all available pins from the FT232R to the FPGA.

Any non-mining application would need more communication bandwidth. The easies way would be to route all 8 DBUS signals for parallel byte communication. Then the CBUS signals can be configured in EEPROM to expose the RD# & WR# strobe signals. It all works together to allow easy implementation of bit-bang I/O. And it is easy both on the host side software in the computer and easy on SLICE resources on the FPGA.

It is just 6 traces more, but the value of the board as a development kit increases immensely. The default 115200bps maximum speed in UART is a serious limitation for non-mining uses.

I'll wait for the schematic and constraint files to ask further questions.

I have some other development board with FTDI chip and I will write a quick loopback test software for Windows and a trivial loopback Xilinx project.

maybe after this project, when i have some free time. i will build a small FPGA(LX16 FT256) dev board with DDR2 RAM and FT232 connect as you describe and sell it at a ultra low price(50$) for learning.
186  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - accept bitsteam developer's orders. on: August 05, 2012, 03:47:47 PM
I have non-mining questions:

1) You replaced Prolific PL2303HXD with FTDI FT232R, is that right?
2) Are all 8 DBUS pins from FT232R connected to the FPGA U1?
3) How about 5 CBUS pins? I see TXD1 and RXD1 LEDs so 2 are already used. Where are the remaining 3 connected? I'm hoping for RD# and WR# bit-bang strobes.
4) What is the number of connections between U1 and U2?
5) What is U3?
6) What is U9 and the HOT LED?
7) I see two Winbond chips U4 & U5. Are those SPI configuration memory?
Cool Assume that FPGA is configured for loopback only and not for any work. Did you test that the FT232R works reliably at the full 3Mbps serial communication speed?

Thanks in advance.


short answer:
1, yes!
2, TXD,RXD,CTS,RTS
3, Huh
4, clock buffer
6, TMP102 temperature sensor
7, yes
8, no.

 
sch and PCB design files will release to github this week.
187  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - accept bitsteam developer's orders. on: August 05, 2012, 08:52:56 AM
add order details and some new pictures.

for Chinese readers only:

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目前只接受开发者订单,也就是说现在是没有bitsteam的。如果你没有bitsteam的开发能力,那么只能用icarus的bitsteam,或者用不起来。
每人最多一个。
188  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - official discussion thread. on: July 28, 2012, 04:08:58 AM
I wonder why not more people try to implement this obviously superior implementation (/me looks at the Cairnsmore1 devs...)
It appears to trigger slow convergence in the place and route phases. The unrolled implementation has the similar problem, but less bad.

It seems like the heuristics in the global optimization phases can't find an usable gradient which could be used to guide the optimizer. So it kind of wanders in a fog over the terrain consisting of small hills and shallow valleys.

yep, so we must use manually PAR. this really cost a LOT of man hour which is very very expensive.

PS:

i will check and answer personal messages after i finish the bitsteam work, unless you placed a developer order.
189  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - official discussion thread. on: July 26, 2012, 01:33:03 PM
Update? ngzhang?

From his profile :

Last Active: 23-07-2012, 22:07:55
Last  Post: 15-07-2012, 00:46:00

on: 12-07-2012, 17:40:47 :

will have a final bitsteam update next week(i hope). and completely change the architecture.
please wait for that before do any optimization effort.


Its only been 14 days since that announcement, I think we can hold off on the ropes and pitchforks for a bit <grins>

kind regards
... and no one has given him any money yet either ...
So certainly no reason to be impatient ...

yeah, so i don't like  to withdraw any pre-order money to give me any more pressure when i focus on doing something.

these days:
still very busy at multiple works. 70% is school work, and i put all my spare time on lancelot project. to 3~4:00AM everyday.

i work together with the software guys, now the new bitsteam is doing the optimization work. we must push it to 500-550MH/s.

hardware is ready 5 days ago.

a reason of delay is one of the software guy go to USA, we only have another 1 people to do the work. (not including me) a good news is he will come back at 2/8, but we want to release the bitsteam earlier.

apologize for any misbehavior about didn't replay the PMs or mails.

PS:

accept bitsteam developer orders form now.
190  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - official discussion thread. on: July 14, 2012, 02:46:00 PM
At a guess? - the other boards using (or trying to use) the Icarus bitstream? Smiley

smart  Smiley
191  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - official discussion thread. on: July 14, 2012, 05:03:22 AM
Is the 550 MH/s bitstream compatible with Icarus?

Im going to go out on a limb here and say a big NO.

550MH/s on icarus would require a 275 on what was a 190 clock device.  Ngzhang already said that 200mhz was not recommended.

Unless there is some other wigery going on that increases hashrate efficiency greatly without clock increases.

kind regards

The answer is a big YES.
But only for MY Icarus customers.  Grin
192  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - DisContinued/ important announcement on: July 13, 2012, 11:16:29 AM
i will release .mcs files for all bitsteams, unless it's a UNrecommended test bitsteam (like 200m beta).

The 200mhz one is the one I really want, Im running really good cooling.

Are your other bitstreams going to approach the performance of the 200mhz beta ?

kind regards

 Grin
wait for a few days.
193  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - DisContinued/ important announcement on: July 13, 2012, 10:39:53 AM
will have a final bitsteam update next week

please make some mcs files and not just .bit files so that i can perminently flash the fpgas.

if possible could you also make msc files of the .bit files in the wiki so that at least v3 v4 and beta200 are perm flashable?

kind regards

certainly, will release both .bit and .mcs files.

i will release .mcs files for all bitsteams, unless it's a UNrecommended test bitsteam (like 200m beta).
194  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - DisContinued/ important announcement on: July 12, 2012, 07:40:47 AM
 Embarrassed

V4 ..

will have a final bitsteam update next week(i hope). and completely change the architecture.
please wait for that before do any optimization effort.
195  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - official discussion thread. on: July 12, 2012, 03:27:44 AM
UP.

add some information.  Grin

sorry guys, i'm extremely busy these days... my adviser give me tons of work to do, and i review the HDL codes with other developers to mid-night everyday.  Sad

will catch up with all emails and messages next week.
196  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - DisContinued/ important announcement on: July 01, 2012, 11:55:21 AM
Nonces starting with three nullbytes (0x000000??) are never reported. Nonces starting with three FF (0xFFFFFF??) always get 01 for the fourth byte, which is usually an incorrect result. This had me confused for a while. Error in the bitstream?


Adding Icarus support to my miner. But I can't get it to ever return a nonce starting with three null bytes. I feed it data for which there is such a solution, but it's not working.

Is that normal? Does it start scanning from nonce 0x00000100 ?


yes, it didn't scan the nonce range form 0. approx: 132
197  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - official discussion thread. on: June 26, 2012, 02:20:02 AM


Are you saying the ASIC specs from BFL is very optimistic?


maybe, but not optimism as their delivery date.
198  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - official discussion thread. on: June 26, 2012, 01:17:40 AM
BFL is supposed to be taking preorders today. ASICs are bringing huge changes to Bitcoin, ones that could even effect non-miners. I believe all of these changes will be for the best in the long run though. Now we can just hope that the openasic project turns something out in the next few months!

Yes, and they took preorders in Bitcoin primarily, and some estimates now put the amount of Bitcoin trying to be cashed out by their processor at $300,000 worth, which may be difficult for them to process in the near future. Since these preorders cannot be reversed and the estimated cost for an ASIC run is $3-5 million for all three devices and the time for development could be as long as 6 months or more, there is a very high likelihood we may see BFL not have enough money to do ASIC development for several months and the ASIC itself for several more months. In all, it could easily be a year or more before ASIC drops.

I think FPGA devices still have some play, but obviously these are all things to consider when ordering or implementing new designs. I know I would still buy Lancelots if they were developed, though I'd probably still prefer a quad-miner of some sort.

we (my team and some other core people) consider BFL have not spend any money on ASIC development yet. BFL's business flow is: announce dreamlike specs -> taking pre-orders -> find people to development -> if succeed, release and shipment. if fail, run. BFL sell products at super low price because their customer take all risks.
so now BFL is just collecting money for their ASIC project and avoid current delivery pressure (means they are running out cheap FPGAs).
if this business model succeeded, i will classified this as a shame of human intelligence.

and let me explain what is the "now in final stage development" mean. in ASIC design flow, this means RTL design is nearly finish. as a SOC or some other complex ASIC, RTL design and testing will take most of the development time. but mining ASIC is not a RTL complex design, it is a high computing density chip. most of the work is physical design, packaging and thermal design. RTL is less than 10% of the entire work.

What does the developer say? Do you have a solution for the bitstream yet? I'd love to buy one or two Lancelots rather sooner than later. Do you think it's risky to invest in FPGAs now? I'm not so worried about the energy efficiency but to achieve a high hash rate in order to still be able to compete at all with ASICs next year. I'm assuming the time for ROI is more than one year, or isn't it?

nearly finish.
the price will let the ROI in ~6 months.
199  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - official discussion thread. on: June 23, 2012, 08:56:15 PM
dear friend,
i am afraid that FPGA in 6 months time will turn obsolete! (ASIC time)
i wonder if you should put your efforts to openASIC or other ASIC project! Smiley

 Grin let's see what will happen in the next 6 months.
200  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - official discussion thread. on: June 21, 2012, 03:08:21 PM
ok, report is here:
good news:
fixed all small bugs on the present Lancelot PCB, waiting for heat-sink sample for a final check. will push it to production stage. that means Lancelot will come out in batch in ~3 weeks.  Cheesy
bad news:
bitsteam build meet with some difficulties. no ETA can be  estimate.  Embarrassed

should i make Lancelot as a hardware platform only? you know there are a mass of 3-rd party mining bitsteams, and running really fast. is it good for me to sell Lancelot at a extreme low price and cooperate with those bitsteam makers?  Huh Lancelot have the best power module(14A continuous and 25A peak, 85% efficiency, for each FPGA) and  encryption support (eFuse key  storage and volatile memory key storage). and opensourced.  Huh


about the mining ASIC:

it's really easy to make a mining ASIC, but hard to make a "good" mining ASIC. that's  my point of view.

PS: please feel free to discuss or off topic in my thread. i'm a chinese and in chinese forums, all threads are off topic. it's  a usually situation for me.  Cheesy
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