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421  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch shipment start. on: January 16, 2012, 08:23:16 AM
Hi ngzhang

I got this error while doing the first step( synthesize the stuff under ./miner_core). nothing relate to 2nd step.  Wink I do get this file sha256_top.ngc. but it give me 1 error. should I take care of this error or just ignore. jump to 2nd step?

thanks ngzhang
xiangfu

no map need at the first step. just sync and get a NGC file.

thanks ngzhang.

another question. how can I create the smartguide file: ./src/miner_top.ncd? it is a binary file. I want know which sources generate this smartguide file?  by read the help of xilinx. it's should be one of the files when running synthesis.

this is generate by smartXplorer flow.
actually, it's used for a higher P&R speed. you certainly can run with out this guild file, and turn to smartXplorer, but it cost a lot of time...
422  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch shipment start. on: January 16, 2012, 08:20:32 AM


Damn! 451 peak!  Shocked

I wonder if there is a way to increase the average speed (ie shorten the gap between the peak and the minimum). 400 Mh/s average would be really sweet to have.

a close beta ver bitsteam is already reached that speed (400M average), but looks like not 100% stable on all -2 device.
so ... Cheesy

So you are saying that the beta ver bitstream would be 100% stable on all -3 devices or are you saying that only SOME -2 devices will work 100% stable with this  beta version bitstream?

Personally I would take my chances loading the bitstream on the Icarus board if it meant the reward would be consistent 400 MH/s performance.


no, please do not deduce. i do not have a -3 device, so there is no test under them.

and, 380 to 400 only a 5% difference, it there really necessary drive the FPGAs to such a limiting case?

after the shipment over, i will clear up all the code and put them on github, if any one want to try a higher speed version, just do it. anyway Icarus present is a  warranty invalid product.  Grin
423  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch shipment start. on: January 16, 2012, 08:15:49 AM
Hi

anyone try to synthesis the bitsteam from scratch? I follow the README:https://github.com/ngzhang/Icarus/blob/master/FPGA_project/README.txt
 1. first synthesize the stuff under ./miner_core, then you got a NGC file, named sha256_top.ngc
     I do get this file name 'sha256_top.ngc'. but it give some 1 error[1]. is there any problem about this error? should I take care of it?

do you copy the "sha256_top.ngc" NGC file(first step you got) to the 2nd step "right_with_bigID_and_ZERONonceMod2" folder?

Hi ngzhang

I got this error while doing the first step( synthesize the stuff under ./miner_core). nothing relate to 2nd step.  Wink I do get this file sha256_top.ngc. but it give me 1 error. should I take care of this error or just ignore. jump to 2nd step?

thanks ngzhang
xiangfu

no map need at the first step. just sync and get a NGC file.
424  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch shipment start. on: January 16, 2012, 06:59:45 AM


Damn! 451 peak!  Shocked

I wonder if there is a way to increase the average speed (ie shorten the gap between the peak and the minimum). 400 Mh/s average would be really sweet to have.

a close beta ver bitsteam is already reached that speed (400M average), but looks like not 100% stable on all -2 device.
so ... Cheesy
425  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch shipment start. on: January 16, 2012, 06:16:11 AM
Hi

anyone try to synthesis the bitsteam from scratch? I follow the README:https://github.com/ngzhang/Icarus/blob/master/FPGA_project/README.txt
 1. first synthesize the stuff under ./miner_core, then you got a NGC file, named sha256_top.ngc
     I do get this file name 'sha256_top.ngc'. but it give some 1 error[1]. is there any problem about this error? should I take care of it?

 2. now I am doing the step [put this file to ./miner , than run the flow by using Synplify E-2011.03-SP2 as synthesizer and ./src/miner_top.ncd as smartguide file]

[1]----
ERROR:Pack:198 - NCD was not produced.  All logic was removed from the design.
   This is usually due to having no input or output PAD connections in the
   design and no nets or symbols marked as 'SAVE'.  You can either add PADs or
   'SAVE' attributes to the design, or run 'map -u' to disable logic trimming in
   the mapper.  For more information on trimming issues search the Xilinx
   Answers database for "ERROR:Pack:198" and read the Master Answer Record for
   MAP Trimming Issues.

Mapping completed.
See MAP report file "sha256_top_map.mrp" for details.
Problem encountered during the packing phase.

Design Summary
--------------
Number of errors   :   1
Number of warnings : 422

Process "Map" failed



do you copy the "sha256_top.ngc" NGC file(first step you got) to the 2nd step "right_with_bigID_and_ZERONonceMod2" folder?
426  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Ultra-Low-Cost DIY FPGA Miner - 175MH/s @ $1/MH on: January 15, 2012, 04:57:12 PM
Power costs are only at 5% mining on a gpu right now

FAIL. (and BTW i have >10GH/s of GPU and 0 GH/s of FPGA right now)

another reason is FPGA mining system has smaller size and heat.
here in Beijing, China, the housing price (flat) is about 4500$/m^2 . (*2~*3 for house).
a 5G GPU mining system can take over 1 room with no difficulty. that means wast your 40,000$(for a 8 m^2 room).
and a same hashing speed FPGA system can easily deploy next to your desk with <300w power consuming.
427  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch order start. on: January 12, 2012, 04:25:20 PM


8 package, 16 Icarus are on the way. delivery with reinforced packaging. all payed buyer's product is on the way.

i will send them to EMS agent tomorrow.

Xiangfu already received the first 3 boards today, we are in the same city.


Really? Is this due to high manufacturing costs of board with more than 1 FPGA? Or?

When you say daughter - mother architecture you mean to say that you'll have one mother board and several expansion slots (aka daughter boards) into which one can plug several (how many?) daughter boards?

I would really like to see a nice fpga cluster geared solution - a nicely done backplane with several (10+) spots to plug in daughterboards that will each have either 1 or 2 fpga per daughterboard Smiley

i'm still thinking... Cheesy
428  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch order start. on: January 12, 2012, 01:20:48 PM
that "resistor" infact is a ceramic capacitor. soldered  by hand and looks ugly. because i forgot to reserve a PCB edge for the SMT.  Wink

Shows what I know. I should have recognized that by it's color. :/  Being by hand it's not bad. The last time I did any component lvl soldering like that, the caps/resistors, etc were about 3-4 times that size. I drink too much coffee to even attempt the little parts on there these days.  Edge would be nice. Atleast no one can accuse you of wasting edge space though. =)

I think I've probably asked this before but have you any plans to build a 4 chip board? Or a 7 series board when those become more available?

Cheers,
  Derek

it looks like my future plan will reduce to 1 FPGA board. and with a daughter - mother architecture.
429  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch order start. on: January 12, 2012, 12:13:43 PM

oh, it looks like this capacitor is touched by some stuff during the transport.
it there any issues except the skew? Huh

and:

i suggest return that board and change that capacitor, i afraid there will be some damage inside that capacitor. Huh

and and:
looks like i must open the package again and do some reinforce to the package... Grin

I highly doubt that capicitor is in any way damaged. Maybe if it got 'shoved' down on its pins or something, then maybe.
However, that resistor looks a lil funky.  Tongue
i agree with you.
that "resistor" infact is a ceramic capacitor. soldered  by hand and looks ugly. because i forgot to reserve a PCB edge for the SMT.  Wink
430  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch order start. on: January 12, 2012, 11:36:03 AM

oh, it looks like this capacitor is touched by some stuff during the transport.
it there any issues except the skew? Huh

and:

i suggest return that board and change that capacitor, i afraid there will be some damage inside that capacitor. Huh

and and:
looks like i must open the package again and do some reinforce to the package... Grin
431  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch order start. on: January 10, 2012, 04:21:52 AM
when will you start to accept new orders?

after i finish present shipment.

ADD@1/12

i finished packing tonight. but a burst work from school made me very busy these days. i hope can send them out tomorrow. Sad
432  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch order start. on: January 10, 2012, 03:03:04 AM
fans are included.
433  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch order start. on: January 08, 2012, 01:13:07 PM
hi, everyone.
2nd batch order/ pre-order now temporary paused. i do my best to ship out all Icarus that already payed.
434  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch order start. on: January 07, 2012, 06:57:08 PM
If I am ordering one, shipping to USA, zip 42001.
How much is the shipping?
Is there a website that I can check the rates myself? I can read chinese.

about 25$

check it here:

http://www.ems.com.cn/serviceguide/zifeichaxun/zi_fei_cha_xun.html
435  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Ultra-Low-Cost DIY FPGA Miner - 175MH/s @ $1/MH on: January 07, 2012, 09:39:40 AM
Schematics were published by ngzhang in his topic about Icarus.

 and you can use them as your own risk under GPL license. Grin
436  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch order start. on: January 06, 2012, 04:43:27 PM
zhang,
I think it would be helpful if you can update your first post to include a question and answer section. This will help new visitors to this thread from having to dig through pages of posts.

A few questions:
1. What is the last date to order for the second batch?
2. When will the second batch ship?
3. For a FPGA noob, is the $569 all I need to get this up and running?
4. What is the 80pin TE 1734037 and 1734099 connector for?
5. How much is left of the 30 board for this batch?
6. Does the $569 include shipping fee? If not, how much to ship to USA?


1, unknown.
2,tomorrow begin to prepare, take 2-3 days to finish.
3,yes. with a pc.
4,no use for noob.
5,less than 10.
6,no. depends on where you live, and the package weight.  maybe 20-40$ for one.

ADD:
very sorry, i just contact the local EMS international shipment agency, he sad they will in the "new year holidays" until Jan. 10.
that means i will send first 10 boards to ship 3 days later.
 Embarrassed

ADD: first 10 boards all pass the test (mining for 1 week).
payment start.


i send email to pre-orders. but now i'm really in a email jam. so if you pre-ordered, but not received any payment email, please re-send a remind mail to me. really apologize.
437  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch order start. on: January 06, 2012, 04:26:13 AM
I presume that the second batch will come with the new "beta" core preloaded, no?

no, will ship buy with a final released core.
438  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch order start. on: January 05, 2012, 04:14:54 PM
Ngzhang, could you make a guide ( FPGA noob-friendly, please  Embarrassed ) showing how to update the new mining software?

It could be coiped to the github, for future users and future updates.

server, if you are also willing to help, it would be nice!  Smiley


i will do it, but now at github is a beta ver bitsteam... my original purpose is that who don't know how to use, then don't use (at this time).
still some small modify is needed. and i may write a guide. Cheesy
439  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch order start. on: January 02, 2012, 03:21:28 PM
It's impressive but I hope these things never get to a price that would cause the main stream to buy them. It would drive the bitcoin price down since they use such little power. Investing in a normal mining rig is not to risky, even if the price dropped to nothing the parts could be sold for a decent return. I would image these would be near worthless outside of mining.

nearly half of the 1st batch buyers are developers, not (fully)for mining.
440  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Icarus" - 2nd batch order start. on: January 02, 2012, 01:39:10 PM
OK , all updated @ 1st floor.
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