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2261  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you know when you are in profit? USD or Satoshi? on: June 21, 2017, 06:53:10 PM
I am a little confused because I have always looked at the satoshi prices, but sometimes I hear people say that you should look at the dollar value if you are in profit or not. But when you trade at an exchange to BTC all the peaks and vallies are measured in BTC? Should you follow dollar value or satoshi value to know if you are in profit? Or do just have to choose one of them and stick to it? For example if I buy at 0.1 satoshi and now the chart show 0.12 satoshi I think I am in profit? But is that not always the case? I am using cointracking for example to see if I am in profit or not. If I look at btc and amp Doge I am currently in -7% on the coin, but if I switch to dollar I am +0.09%  It is very confusing..

Does it have to do with if you plan to keep your money inside crypto or take it out? If you plan to take it out I guess dollar is more important, but my plan is to stay in crypto for the long term so dollar value is not even important at that point...?

I mean if you buy a coin at 0.1 satoshi and you sell it at 0.2 satochi you have sold in "profit" even if btc would have sunken 90%?

Well you have to choose your reference... every price is in reference of something else. If you value BTC more than USD, then you will be happy to make BTC gains. If you care about USD, then you will be happy if your USD go up... it's all about reference, there's no global value.

If you think BTC is a long term winner, then focus on making more BTC and forget about USD fluctuations.
2262  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russia faces shortage of PC graphics cards due to Cryptocurrency mining on: June 21, 2017, 06:15:29 PM
A few users on reddit were complaining that GTX 1060 price is increasing very steeply, which may be an overstatement of the situation, although not totally untrue. These were US based customers, so I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there are shortages elsewhere.

People are looking to tap into bitcoins, and with the current price rise a lot of investors will be going into mining, driving the price of  mining equipments up.

I remember that the Radeon x series went up in price a lot because people were buying chunks of used ones to stack up and create GPU farms then the Scrypt craze started back then with LTC, then Doge and other alts. I suspect a lot of graphic cards will go up in price as demand grows for mining purposes.
2263  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: High school dropout who invested in bitcoin is now a millionaire at 18 on: June 21, 2017, 03:49:06 PM
http://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/2017/06/20/bitcoin-millionaire-erik-finman-says-going-to-college-isnt-worth-it.html

Erik invested in bitcoin when he was 12 and not is a millionaire at age of 18.  This is a good story for Bitcoin.

But here is something that I do not understand:

An excerpt from the article:
"Eventually he found a buyer for Botangle's technology in January 2015. The investor offered either $100,000 or 300 bitcoin, which had dropped in value at that time to a little more than $200 a coin. He took the lower cash value bitcoin deal because he believed it was "the next big thing."

"My parents asked 'Why don't you take the more cash?"' Finman explained. "But I thought of it more of an investment.""


Why didn't he take the $100K and bought more bitcoins instead?  Granted that there has to be some tax consideration, but tax rate has to be as high as 40% in order for both of the cash option and the bitcoins option to breakeven.  If the tax rate was at 40%, then he could get $60K after tax and would be able to buy 300 bitcoins at the market price ($200 at the time).  Moreover, one day when he sells the bitcoins, he can dedect $200 on each of the bitcoins from the capital gain as cost.

Am I missing something in here?  Don't drop out from high school?   Cheesy



I did read this the other day on reddit. We all wish to be this guy and retire early, even tho he is the type of guy that keeps going after getting rich. He invested his initial bitcoins into a business, then bought back by selling the business from what I've read. He is not the average high schooler. What were the chances that a 12 year old would be investing on bitcoin back then? It was unlikely for an old experienced man, let alone a damn kid. He must be a genius + the luck of stumbling upon bitcoin at the right time.
2264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russia faces shortage of PC graphics cards due to Cryptocurrency mining on: June 20, 2017, 03:43:19 PM
It looks like AMD and nVidia are going to start getting into cryptocurrency mining industry by focusing on cards that have extra performance to mine coins. I've heard the new Quadro cards will be the best cards to mine coins with.

I just wish that AMD, Nvidia and Intel would all join the ASIC production industry to end the Bitmain monopoly. We need big players outside of China.
2265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Explain pls what are sidechains and drivechains? on: June 20, 2017, 03:03:23 PM
Hi! Help me please to figure out what are sideshares and driveshares, because I am a little confused..  Huh


Sidechains are chains that work along the main chain so they are backed by the main chain's haspower. In order to operate on the sidechain, there is a 1-way peg of BTC so no additional BTC's are created, you can go in and out of the chains with your BTC without needing extra tokens.
2266  Economy / Speculation / Re: guys i am worried... on: June 19, 2017, 03:15:53 PM
i think kwukduck might have been hospitalized or something!

for the first time in history of bitcoin, the price has dropped but kwukduck is nowhere to be seen. his last post was from 3 days go
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=654;sa=showPosts

- get well soon buddy, we miss your FUD in this board if you go away Kiss


He is just taking a small vacation, he will probably be back in august 1st if the price crashes, or back in October during the supposed hard fork... he will come back with more FUD because he is a professional FUDDer. Some day he will be right, when you always say it's crashing you will be right at least once, and he will be delusional enough to think that he was right.
2267  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a way to reduce tx sizes? on: June 19, 2017, 02:39:16 PM
I've been noticing these differences for a while, is there a way to reduce the size of your coins? I've tried sending coins to the same address only to increase the end size of the next tx and pay more fees. Thanks Smiley

How so? If you were to select inputs and spend it to yourself, you would effectively be combining those inputs and that was what I was doing sometime ago. You can choose a small fee for those kind of transactions if you don't need the funds in the near future. Anyway, you can accelerate your transaction using ViaBTC's interface[1]. You just need a fee of 0.0001BTC/KB.

[1] https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

Don't use anything provided by ViaBTC. They are garbage.

Anyway, just request higher payments. The more inputs you get, the bigger the transaction fee, so request that payments are dealt monthly and not weekly. Bitmixer should look into that, I don't see why it has to be weekly and not monthly.

With segwit activating soon hopefully we get lightning network so we can end this nonsense.
2268  Economy / Economics / Re: Offline stores that accept payments using bitcoins on: June 19, 2017, 12:53:11 PM
I've never seen a store that uses bitcoin in real life. It is unfortunately becoming increasingly more inconvenient to use bitcoin for real life payments due the slow transactions and high fees for stuff like groceries, coffee etc.

If we want that, we need the lightning network soon. Until then... it's simply not worth the hassle.
2269  Economy / Economics / Re: Could the banking system be behind cryptocurrenices? on: June 18, 2017, 06:18:06 PM
The creator of bitcoin no one has ever seen and the most contact he has had with anyone is via a few emails. It's a little strange to say the least. Plus bitcoin isn't even anonymous. I only ask because I keep hearing of this one world goverment thing who want to introduce a one world currency. It kind of makes sense that a one world goverment might be being implemented as they have and are creating unions, like the EU for example if more unions are implemented like African and South American etc it would worth paying more attention. Anyway, how do we know that big bankers aren't behind this currency and the so called creator of bitcoin isn't just a made up name? Who is behind bitcoin it's a conspiracy.

DUN DUN DUN. Illuminati confirmed!

All jokes aside this is a very serious question....... VERY SERIOUS!

It could be that they tried to make bitcoin an experiment, then convert it into something they can control like giving it massive blocks, or supporting Ethereum/Ripple or anything else they can easily control.
But bitcoin as it is right now, it's not really good for the banking system.
2270  Economy / Economics / Re: [Manipulation 101] Market cap (to all who love repeating it these days) on: June 18, 2017, 05:46:56 PM
The premined coins that list a ton of coins at the same time get on the marketcap webpage on top of other better coins and it's unfortunate to see how newbies think they are better coins when they have no real value proposition at all, more smoke and mirrors while smaller teams struggle to keep in the first page because the didn't raise millions on ICOs and whatnot.
2271  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there anyone smart enough to figure out how to compute the price of Bitcoin? on: June 17, 2017, 02:38:01 AM
Is there anyone smart enough to figure out how to compute the fair price of Bitcoin?

Any ideas?  Suggestion must be quantifiable. 


Could the following equation be utilized?

MV = PT (the Fisher Equation)

Each variable denotes the following:
M = Money Supply
V = Velocity of Circulation (the number of times money changes hands)
P = Average Price Level
T = Volume of Transactions of Goods and Services

 Huh


The "fair price of bitcoin" is established organically due price discovery through supply and demand. There's no mathematical formula to know the so called "fair price of bitcoin". If there was, you would be rich by selling and buying in relation to that price. We can only try to estimate the price by means of technical and fundamental analysis.
2272  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 16, 2017, 02:06:52 AM
If [someone] wanted to, they could fill these block up over night [by spending a lot of money on fees]. Either that, or you could get enough demand that would fill it up very quickly [which is both what we want and why we need it]. You will end up asking for X MB afterwards, which would further centralized Bitcoin whilst not improving [efficiency].
Using terms like "malicious attacker" doesn't convey any useful information, it's an attempt to make people feel a certain way about the topic being discussed. And that is what makes you a sophist. Anyone has the right to send any amount of transactions they want for any reason or no reason, that's one of the main points about bitcoin. No middlemen regulating what is allowed.

We need more throughput. Otherwise this is as big as bitcoin is going to get. Squabbling over how it should be done instead of actually doing it is hurting everyone.

There will be (eventual) block size increases, everyone in Core team agrees with this, the problem is when you pretend to do a rushed hard fork like the ones in the NYC thing want, which can not even agree amongst themselves after signing the so called contract which is just silly.

Lets get segwit NOW with BIP141, then an eventual proper HF with more stuff than just a mere blocksize increase.

The fact that we are discussing this is just insane.
2273  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 15, 2017, 03:43:07 PM
Do you think this correction is done yet? It's still not as deep as the one from May 25-27. It would have to go below $2k do match that.
It is not just a correction. I take it you have missed the Bitmain announcement/threat? I do not want it to go any lower, at least not yet.

You're right. I was too busy yesterday to even check in. Today I woke up, saw the price and ran out to buy.

So it's hard fork panic part two? Jeezuz Murphy. I'm looking into it.

Sigh.



It's the big blockers again. Check Tone Vays' latest video for a recap. They have used the $3000 recent peak too, to fuel the panic selling further, because $3000 is a psychological barrier and until it's clearly passed, some fear is in the air. The spark that ignited the fire was the post by "admin" in bitmain's blog. Everyone involved is im sure, shorting the market since "admin" posted the blog.
2274  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 15, 2017, 02:34:42 PM
Jihan Wu is currently giving a speech in some chinese blockchain event about scaling bitcoin:

https://twitter.com/ViaBTC/status/874822283033845760

I wonder what kind of lies is he propagandizing right now. I guess he is already out there promoting his ChinaCoin hard-fork.

If they wanted segwit, they would activate it already with BIP141.
2275  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $8 fee? for a $73 transaction? Really what the fuc is going on? on: June 15, 2017, 01:25:24 PM
One of the reasons why Ethereum is on the rise Smiley

WRONG! Ethereum is on the rise because people are ignoring the indicators that it is a huge Ponzi Scheme. The greed is blinding their logical

decision making processes. Ethereum has not even reached the scaling challenges that Bitcoin has faced before. OP, has to pay that kind of fees,

because he admitted that he used faucets and flooded his Bitcoin address with "Dust" transactions. {No. Transactions 255}

Stop promoting a Ponzi Scheme {Ethereum} please, people are going to lose a shitload of money when the SEC starts their investigations.  Angry

Apparently I've read Vitalik Buterin and other main devs may be in danger of jail time because of selling illegal securities (this adds to all ICO's too apparently). If Vitalik makes ties with Putin, then the US government will go even harder against him because they hate anything that is pro-russian. Honestly not looking good long term. But medium term ETH is still probably a good investment because reality will kick in with delay as always.
2276  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Vs Litecoin on: June 14, 2017, 11:03:00 PM
Im just hoping litecoin acts as a decent hedge against price turbulence during august 1st, UASF, JihanCoin and all those shenanigans. Im going to wait for a couple more days and see how it performs. If it doesn't crash and the graph looks good, I will buy a decent chunk and hold thought august hoping that if BTC goes down, LTC will not get dragged down too because that would suck.
2277  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it possible to somehow regulate Bitcoin? on: June 14, 2017, 06:28:01 PM
The gateways of bitcoin (exchanges etc) can be regulated, not bitcoin itself. We could argue about how ISPs could be banned from the bitcoin protocol but there are ways around that I guess.

I have no problems with taxes, but I have problems with exchanges, I don't trust the exchanges, they are run by people that I just can't trust, I don't want to get scammed so I take big precautions with exchanges and try to not give them any data.
2278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Poloniex exchange, deposit is taking so long on: June 14, 2017, 05:46:38 PM
Posted a ticket on Poloniex 4 days a go and still haven't received my coins and no reply, is there something wrong with the exchange and how long does it take to receive a reply?
Do they have a ann on this site, maybe I can report it there?
thankx,  

There are valid concerns about a possible liquidity problem before august 1st. It's obvious that everyone that knows where the wind blows is going to get their coins out of the exchanges in the risk of a split, this will mean any exchange that doesn't have liquidity will collapse.

My advice is that once you get your coins, take them out of the exchange until September+ and wait for this to resolve.
2279  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Vs Litecoin on: June 13, 2017, 06:07:32 PM
Litecoin doesn't have anything new other than recent activation of segwit in litecoin, however that might not pump LTC anymore. LTC price was already pumped quite hard recently and right now it is correcting. Best investment for now could be ETC which is quite similar to ETH.

The only chance LTC has to pump anytime soon is if in august there is a big mess with bitcoin forking into 2 coins and whatnot. LTC has the infraestructure and tech to be a safe haven in case of bitcoin problems.

I want to find a big ROI coin, LTC is harder to pump now, its too high.
2280  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not in a bubble. people are using it to park their dollars. on: June 13, 2017, 05:33:04 PM
Yet again, I feel all of this news is being manufactured by the whales and the big traders in Bitcoin, no one can even try to fight the claim that we're in a bubble right now. With the price increases per day it's pretty insane to even think of not being in a bubble, let alone writing it in a news site and then sourcing it on here. The price went up like a fucking straight up ladder for BTC and many other coins fells, so simpy this source is just trying to shill more and more people into getting into BTC so the whales can make more and more money.

Shitty source just trying to make more money, sorry OP.

Look at bitcoin's marketcap dominance compared to other alts. The irony is that bitcoin is not the one in a bubble, it's the alts that are in a bubble, specially Ethereum. Once Ethereum crashes it's going to be fun. BTC domination will go back to 80% and the altcoin bubble will burst, BTC will go even higher and we'll see what was really in a bubble.

BTC isn't experiencing abnormal growth, it's the alts.
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