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Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Deadlines and moving forward (BIP 16/17 support)
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on: January 30, 2012, 11:33:54 PM
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Outsourcing the vote solely to the miners seems especially questionable when the mining is so centralized. It's not outsourced. Miners by nature have to make this decision. Now if the miners agree to take the decision of a panel of developers or something, that would be outsourcing it (possibly in a good way). Why this debate continues to go on, I'm not really sure. Gavin is worried about some potential for an already-existing-but-unknown bug being made mainstream by BIP 17, but by every tangible measure it's clearly the better solution now that the maybe-a-problem-in-the-far-future sigop-limit issue is resolved. Yes, this vote isn't like political events where some people decide that if a person gets X people/delegates to say so then they are the president or some other title. This vote is for finding out what will happen, what the actual state of things is. This is the real life it's not just fantasy.
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Economy / Gambling / Re: [BTC On Tilt] - wtf?
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on: January 30, 2012, 10:30:28 PM
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Fri 27 Jan 2012 11:59:32 PM GMT Withdraw Bitcoin withdraw to 1CuKRKVaBvutVsXD2RyvGM2x3fqJSBVBjQ 5.00000000 BTC
I sent these coins into btcontilt.com and I have never received them. They will not respond to my contacts. I literally cannot believe this is what it has come to after having a full page advertisement in a major poker magazine, BLUFF, just this month.
Someone please help! What do I do?
A picture of this ad would be awesome.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: first 25 minutes
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on: January 30, 2012, 08:26:20 PM
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yap, I remember that one, he mainly criticizes Scalability. He reuses slides from Dan Kaminsky, this thread has some answers and reactions: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34597.0Still I believe there is some truth that Bitcoin is not as scalable and decentralizable as it could/should be. You're sure the guy talking was reusing Dan Kaminsky's slides, or he was Dan itself? Maybe he stole dan's talk, name, height, voice and face. In the future that'll be so easy you'll need to sign your shit so people won't believe the impostors.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All The Fees
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on: January 30, 2012, 02:53:05 AM
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I have. Just make votes proportional to committed long-term ownership of coins instead of energy wastage. This is called "proof of stake". Search for it. I'm not going through details here because it would just attract trolls. I will only respond to high-level theoretical objections.
You mean if there were two miners one having 10BTC and one having 5BTC the 10BTC miner would have 2x the chance of their block being accepted? What is the mechanism for actually deciding? Still hashing, but accept lower difficulty blocks if the block is signed with a private key that holds coins?
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Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin noob needs a hand.
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on: January 30, 2012, 02:33:41 AM
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One other thing...this "synchronizing with network" that my bitcoin wallet is doing has taken about an hour so far and it's at 65%. What is it doing and how often will it need to do this? I believe I read somewhere that it's downloading these "blocks."
A new block (data containing mostly transactions) is found on average every 10 minutes. You are catching up a few years worth right now. If you disconnect for a few days you'll have a little bit of catching up to do. Right now this is a reasonable thing to do, eventually most people will use a client that doesn't need a full record.
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anon is hammering the Justice Department
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on: January 30, 2012, 01:40:10 AM
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whatever, sharing culture is not and will not ever be an illegal activity, regarding all the efforts put to make us think otherwise. Culture is not an industry, the artists will have to cut the middle-man to be able to live off their work. Bitcoin is here...
It's about property rights. Specifically, theft of someone elses property they made investments in creating Information isn't property. Even the framers of the US Constitution recognized this, by refusing to enshrine copyright as a eternal right. If it was a property, they wouldn't have been opposed to perpetual copyrights; for that matter, they probably wouldn't have felt a need to mention copyrights as all in the US Constitution, if they regarded it as a form of personal property. Along these lines. Does anyone think that legislators who pass bills allowing a creators copyright to eventually expire are endorsing theft? Does it become right to steal the creators work just because it loses legal protection? Would stealing a car become right if 300 old men said so? Does anyone here actively avoid using public domain works without compensating the creator?
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: first 25 minutes
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on: January 29, 2012, 10:14:05 PM
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Guy isn't trying to figure the answers to his issues at all.
Connect to all nodes? I'll just send the tx out of band to someone willing to relay it for me.
Block chain too long for everyone to hold? Just request the parts you need from someone who has it. If it's so super big maybe you'll have to pay a little bit eventually, but even that seems extreme. Does he know about headers?
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BIP 16 / 17 in layman's terms
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on: January 29, 2012, 07:45:57 PM
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If the miners refuse to switch it doesn't work. The devs can't force anything.
But this would pave light way to transition... If transition itself being questionable enough - miners can reject it... Only after this regular users will need to decide. Small details what matters... People in order of importance 1st - developers 2nd - miners (poolops) 3rd - users It will eliminate friction from the process... Sure, everyone is important in different ways. The 50%+ only applies to miners though, if one dev out of 1000 convinces the miners the change is good it happens. And as long as there are some users who continue using it then the changes protocol continues to exist as a real/used thing.
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: "The most important video you'll ever see"
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on: January 29, 2012, 07:39:48 PM
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Old man thinks we have to live only on the dry part of the surface of one planet for ever. Old man is wrong.
Did he just say "stop immigration" as one of the ways to get zero population growth? Maybe he thinks the browns will starve if they can't get to the promised land.
I was baffled by that as well until I realized he is only concerned with town planning for Boulder, Colorado. I like to see people find practical applications for their ideas but really this poor guy has gotten way too excited by the need for building extra sewage works. Yeah, if you told this guy in the year 1300 people would have 100+ books each he tell you it was impossible because you would have to have 19 scribes sitting on your kidney.
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: "The most important video you'll ever see"
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on: January 29, 2012, 07:03:16 PM
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Old man thinks we have to live only on the dry part of the surface of one planet for ever. Old man is wrong.
Did he just say "stop immigration" as one of the ways to get zero population growth? Maybe he thinks the browns will starve if they can't get to the promised land.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BIP 16 / 17 in layman's terms
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on: January 29, 2012, 06:40:33 PM
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Developers must vote on this, not regular "miners" ( as long developers are trusted)...
I will split my bounty between all developers involved, does not matter of what BIP will be accepted.
If the miners refuse to switch it doesn't work. The devs can't force anything.
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Economy / Services / Re: New site - BitcoinHorn.com - Get your message out
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on: January 29, 2012, 04:22:22 AM
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What is the meaning of this ?
BitcoinHorn Bitcoin Horn 5HyEbr5DEiKmJUTR2FPR75QLX1wNHgbhZS95JZQKWjcLndm2hHU #bitcoin 15 minutes ago
Thanks !
That looks to me like a WIF privkey. You can try claiming it with something like blockchain.info's My Wallet, or importing it into your wallet.dat with pywallet? Yeah. Figured that out myself but it seems like it is already claimed There will be more, stay tuned!
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