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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 13, 2014, 06:40:25 PM
So is anyone running this show now? Dev gone?

everything is ok. david says the chinese mobsters are on board an believe in the coin.
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 13, 2014, 06:30:17 PM
More Jerry Springer shit and no posting of the bay & bitcoin addresses.

Anything to keep investors eyes off the ball apparently.

Im compiling everything have some patience.

lol maybe just maybe you should be fixing the back door in the BitBay wallet instead of playing private eye? naaahhhh that would take some coding skills. pro tip Z, try fiver.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 06:26:12 PM
lol hunthunthunt = zimbeck. on the hunt. watchout bob your fellow thieves are out to get you. ca't decide who i am rooting for in this one.

44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 04:47:37 PM
The iframe security vulnerability in the latest Bay wallet has now been public for four days. You say you do not know how it got there. Have you taken any steps at all in the past four days to hire a professional coder who can fix it?

The vulnerability isnt in the iframe Ryan, it was on my FTP server. I've changed the password, removed wordpress and removed a dubious script. Will monitor it from here and change it out when i have time (I'm not going to babysit)

Also, ive got lots of info on you including from other coins and friends so just stay away, move along. Live your life.

An official goodbye.

Not Ryan. Wish i was, then i might have made some money off your scam. Unfortunately I'm just another guy who you took money from. You would like it very much if everyone you stole money from would  "just move along"  wouldn't you.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 04:39:52 PM
The iframe security vulnerability in the latest Bay wallet has now been public for four days. You say you do not know how it got there. Have you taken any steps at all in the past four days to hire a professional coder who can fix it?
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 04:35:45 PM
Why was the Bay code removed from Github?
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 13, 2014, 04:32:43 PM
David stole the code from here:

[Suspicious link removed]/

Looks like Ryan got doxxed:

http://www.192.com/atoz/people/wright/ryan/s26/4027022430/

"Crypto-Steve" in all the chat logs is now " BitBay Dev" in the the new thread.

Can this get any more sleazy?Huh


Suspicious link removed... lol. Thats not Ryan. He was from California and lives in Taipei Taiwan. Dont hide buddy thats what bugs do.

Give your coins back Ryan

Yea, i notice you are cherry picking your answers. Not saying anything about your chinese mobster buddies controlling the new thread. And you are right -  that link is suspicious. Very suspicious. Seems to show you stole the code for Halo. And the same day it gets posted, you take the Bay Code out of Github.

let's see, controlled by the chinese mob, in control of several different block chains ..... hmmmm..... i just can't figure out what the problem with this is.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 04:24:44 PM
Meanwhile, over in the Chinese thread, just so you guys know, David is talking the chinese guys into putting more of the stolen btc into a halo account. Hmmmm. Wonder who can access any Halo account they want.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 04:22:47 PM
"Elanor rigby. Give your full name identity and address and then people will believe you arent bob or gekko. If bob and ryan want to clear their names then they can refund their BTC 191+191+500."

Lol. The guy who engineered the biggest crypto fraud in history is now giving others a chance to clear their names.

You have no shame Zimbeck.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 04:20:56 PM
Looks like all the code for Bay is gone from the github.

What are you up to now Zimbeck?
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 02:38:18 PM
The Plot Thickens:

Zimbeck claims to be the new leader of Bay. Claims he and the chinese mobsters are going to take Bay into the future.

Meanwhile one of the new chinese mafia schills from the new "offficial thread"  - -- M28MmickT ---- goes into the "official Bay Fud Thread"  and claims that this guy:

https://twitter.com/RyanPWright

Is Bob's partner.

The level of backstabbing and deception here is mind boggling.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 13, 2014, 02:35:52 PM
The Plot Thickens:

Zimbeck claims to be the new leader of Bay. Claims he and the chinese mobsters are going to take Bay into the future. Meanwhile one of the new chinese mafia schills from the new "offficial thread"  - -- M28MmickT ---- comes here and claims that "Ryan" is this guy:

https://twitter.com/RyanPWright

The level of backstabbing and deception here is mind boggling.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 02:17:52 PM
I was out few days and don't have time to read 40+ pages today.

anyone can write me in few words what's going on? Please:)

BayScam?  Grin

Bingo.  
The guys David was partnered with were in on it from the beginning.
Depending on which version you believe (or guess at), David either:
A) Found out it was crap early on and hid it from investors.
B) Knew it was crap from the beginning but needed money.
C) Was completely clueless about the whole thing until the ICO but believed he could save it somehow.
D) Was the mastermind behind the whole thing.
BTER was most likely involved in buying BAY with BTC that didn't even exist during IPO.
Bob & Gekko (Ryan) took them for a crapload of both BTC and BAY... then dumped the latter.
Steven, David (and probably Lin too why not) have between 30-50% of the BAY and between 30-50% of the BTC - waiting on addresses for this if it happens.

And the price has come back nearly 30% from the shakeout... and has had decent buy support despite nothing but drama and 2 additional threads being spawned.   Roll Eyes

Probably missed some stuff, but basically is SNAFU in crypto land again.  Undecided

I will state the chronology of events and i can back it up if need be:

(Chronological order)
Steven approaches me for a coin. Promises literally everything discussed. I question him hard core to make sure it was legitimate. Proceeded with caution.
Gekko(Ryan) Bob come in a few days before the PreANN asking me to take a slightly larger share and they would bring in a team and pay devs (similar to what Steve said)
I had a long talk with Ryan grilling him on many questions. He assured me it was not a pump, that they would pay DEVs, get a staff, not use me for my name.
Steven says its OK they will not release my name until the ICO goes through an it is honest
Then Ryan immediately betrays what Steven said and plasters my name all over it
I get upset, discuss my anger with Steven and Bob, they both claim its "Ok" and Gekko got excited
Now i get chewed out by BC. BUT a deposit on my work was made (25 BTC)
I explain to BC the pros and cons. Most of them defend me, some didnt (take the good with the bad be a man)
I advance with exreme caution. Deposit was already made.
They start the ICO and all hell breaks loose.
I decided to defend them would be to equally defend investors(defend everyone). They promise they will not dump their coins (like broken records)
My hand was forced, i had to advance.

The rest as they say is history.

I really dont want to beat this issue to death. Let me prepare a public statement and try to figure out this paradox. I'm interested only in protecting investors at this point and doing the work that i was asked to do. Im transparent everyone knows that and willing to take the good with the bad and roll with the punches.

Anything you hear from this point forward on forums is beating the issue. Bitcointalk has degraded since its early days. This is why i avoid this forum unless required to.

Any positive ideas investors may take place on the other thread. If investors want to help protect this one, it will be helpful.

For anyone who reads Zimbecks post above:

Zimbeck knew all the facts from the start, was 1/5, partner in the ICO, received massive amounts of BTC and BAY from BTer for his role in this sorry mess.

Zimbeck knew from the start that Bob Surplus was in on the deal and 1/5 partner.

Zimbeck hid his knowledge of all these facts - including the massive fraud in BTer - from both the Black Coin community and the Bay Community the entire time - until the house of cards came tumbling down.

Zimbeck is now scurrying from reddit to BTCT trying to convince everyone that he was an innocent victim in all this, and point the finger at Notorius Bob.

Zinbeck is currently doing nothing to help reveal the BTer fraud. In fact, quite the opposite - the chinese mafia figures who were behind the scam are the new thread moderators at the "new, official BAY thread".  Which Zimbeck is now promoting.

Bob has not dumped his coins. A look at the charts will tell you this. David, Bob, and the chinese mafia can dump bay on the market anytime. Bay is now a magic piggy bank for the con artists that started it - as long as they can keep people believing. For this they need a front man? Who is that?  You guessed it.

Zimbeck can tell "his version" of this sad mess until the cows come home. It will not change the facts.


54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 04:57:58 AM
if this coin is such a scam, why are so many people buying it still?

Because it actually has quite a potentially good future.

The scam of the IPO hasn't affected the coin's technical fortunes thankfully and in that context it's a hugely viable risk asset at this price.


Do your research man. The guy is alone in a room in cambodia spending his days online cultivating his narcissistic online persona 18 hrs a day. What part of that  looksto you like he is gonna suddenly pull a functioning decentralized market out of his ass?

He was warned days ago that the current wallet is backdoored with an insecure iframe chat window. Has he dropped everything to fix that? Nope. Why not? In his own words - "i'm not sure how that happened". Translation: doesn't know how to fix it. Doesn't see the seriousness of it.

Go ahead and follow this Jim Jones down the rabbit hole, but nothing indicates he will be coding his way out of this mess anytime soon.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBay | Decentralized Marketplace | Unmoderated Thread on: December 13, 2014, 04:09:04 AM
All these sheeples are throwing their lives away on this coin. "Bitcoin Dev" is not a dev, he is chinese mobster Steven who already stole their money. BTer Lin who also stole their money and engineeered massive fraud in the ICO through fake buys on BTer owns another 20% of this coin. There are enough "free" coins in circulation that the price will never recover towards IC0. It is just a magic piggy bank for these chinese guys for the next 6 months - as long as they can keep the "community" believing in this fairy tale.

And now there is talk of "forking" the coin - and David says he is "looking" at this?  Sheeze. This gets scammier and scummier every  day. I don't see David talking about the chinese mobsters returning their coins.

It's all a scam, a fake out. They have everyone thinking that 'cuz Bob left the danger is over. I got news for them. Bob hasn't left. Check the charts. It ain't there. Those coins are also waiting to rain down on them.

Anyone who still 'believes' in this thing seriously needs to get some fresh air and perspective.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 13, 2014, 03:54:30 AM
had a few days away... back to check on my new fav coin...

bitbay another great investment i made in the last weeks along with blocknet and scooping up some cheap xc which just went south even more.

to recap...

so bter is run by a scammer?
dz - is ok with it being a semi pump and dump scam? so long as he is not accountable being just the coder... whilst taking some nice profits mostly built upon the strength of him being public and coding halo? although would like to see some development take place eventually if possible.



the other people in the team are just outright thieves?


put an order in at 1 sat, need to cost average down a little i guess.




 





Not at all, i wasnt really sure what my options were once the project had already started. So, i had no choice but to advance. But when they started to not pay for a team and they sat on their asses with the funds, then yeah of course.

So do you think they tried to find me devs? I think not.

ok, so the BTC from Bob and Gekko is gone, that much is clear.  But there is still the BTC held by you, Steven, and Lin.  That is at least 2000 BTC and still more then enough to find and pay more devs.

And there you have the real truth. That these chinese mobsters and David are sitting on a shit ton of free coins but david claims he has been innocently asking for dev money for weeks. Now, what doesn't make sense about that situation, and his claims? and what makes you think any of these selfish pigs is going to uses any money going forward on this, if they have not so far?
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 08:25:08 PM
Can someone convince me, why this coin should have a bright future. Barabras (sry spelling) is right in many points he discussed on unmoderated thread.

I'm holding. There's no way I'm dumping now at these prices as long as there's a semblance of a prospect that the wallet will continue to be developed.

Price heading back up.

After digesting all accounts from all parties concerned there's only one person who I listen to now and that's dzimbeck. If he says "dump cos I'm not working on it any more" then I'll dump. If he says he's going to work on it then I'll hold.



He is alone in cambodia with no dev staff and deep psychological difficulties. Shady chinese backers who have never given him the money he says himself he asked for again and again. Meanwhile there are three other non-criminal, well staffed decentralized markets coming on line. You prob should not bet the farm.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech|Markets Open on: December 12, 2014, 08:19:40 PM
Can someone convince me, why this coin should have a bright future. Barabras (sry spelling) is right in many points he discussed on unmoderated thread.

Because David has stated he will continue to develop the coin.  Bob and Gekko are bad actors and the real scammers in all of this.  They were part the dev team and once they receive their part of the ICO they basically told the community to "fuck off" and then to add insult to injury they have attempted to completely destroy bitpay and investors hopes of ever seeing a return.

While Bob had done significant damage, he hasn't killed bitpay and the bleeding had been stopped.  Let now look forward and get bitbay moving in the right direction.

Coin is gut shot. Will never recover. Wasn't just bob that did the damage, they are all thieves. Naivite is the ethereum of this coin.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech on: December 12, 2014, 09:48:35 AM
Chinese Mobster / new BitBay Dev answer the damn question:

It is now clear that BTer participated in massive fraud, phantom BTC and insider trading AND owns 20% of BAY.

When will BTer make an official statement on this?

Chinese mobsters putting up fake buywalls of phantom BTC will not solve your current situation.



Steven AKA chinese mobster aka new Bitbay Dev Answer the question
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Decentralized Marketplace|Smart Contracts|IoT Tech on: December 12, 2014, 08:26:09 AM
Chinese Mobster / new BitBay Dev answer the damn question:

It is now clear that BTer participated in massive fraud, phantom BTC and insider trading AND owns 20% of BAY.

When will BTer make an official statement on this?

Chinese mobsters putting up fake buywalls of phantom BTC will not solve your current situation.
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