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1  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2021, 03:24:17 AM
So do you guys think bitcoin will fully collapse within a year, or it'll be 5+ years for this death to play out completely?
It's already dead. Died 10 years ago in the good old days. In the process of drawing its final breath.
2  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2021, 03:19:56 AM

I'll start with: I am pro vaccine, pro scientific method, pro empiricism. I am, however, vehemently against turning the entire population into unwitting guinea pigs for power and money hungry degenerates.

Covid:

Tests not capable of differentiating Covid, influenza, etc.(Journal of Infection)
What the authorities are talking about and why some tests were withdrawn is a fact that early tests were not multiplexed, which means that they cannot determine if you have a flu


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I have no idea about your level of biological science sophistication, so I don't know if you are simply ignorant or willfully distort the facts.
Ironic statement, given you've claimed I was wrong and then paraphrased my point to disprove me.

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Please stop posting opus size anti-vax propaganda on WO (it's not a right place)...and get vaccinated for crying out loud.
..and, don't kid yourself, you are NOT pro-vaccine and pro scientific method, you are far away from both.
You are doing precisely what I asserted in my closing remarks. You fling around emotional, illogical dribble and ad hominems.

I have all the usual vaccines, as well as degrees in mathematics and mathematical statistics.
As such, I am more qualified to quantify and analyze any potential issues arising than a biologist or doctor based on the available data.
In fact, statisticians are the ones who tell the medical professions which of their experiments are safe and effective.

So kindly take your arrogance and fuck right off you anti-science cultist.

There is nothing in your writing to indicate that you are a scientist of any sort...well, maybe an alt-scientist, perhaps.
When testing for covid only, you typically don't care about a flu.
You presented this as some kind of weakness, which it is not based on initial objectives (to see if patient is covid positive or not).
That's the typical problem with alts. You latch on something, then twist it until it is the opposite of actual truth. This is a fact, i have one friend who went completely wacko with all these alt theories-to me it is a mind virus of sorts. Be well and try to recover from it.
So far you have done absolutely nothing but confirm my last remark. You're 100% fallacy, personal attacks, emotional dribble and 0% argument.

And you have most certainly failed to give any sensible hypothesis as to why anyone should get "vaccinated" with a novel treatment with zero long-term data that is clearly failing to contain the virus despite existence of multiple safe and effective treatment protocols.

Cherry picking one point and completely failing to make any semblance of a case for your delusional position certainly isn't even within the same realm as "actual truth" or science.

With a disease that has symptoms so similar to the flu it doesn't make sense not to have very rigorous testing procedures in place before calling out debilitating lockdowns (and that's ignoring the fact that lockdowns do not work).

But let's falsely assume that you've got a hit here. Then you still almost certainly have no semblance of a case, given that your apparently strongest argument fails to provide any.
3  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2021, 01:53:44 AM

I'll start with: I am pro vaccine, pro scientific method, pro empiricism. I am, however, vehemently against turning the entire population into unwitting guinea pigs for power and money hungry degenerates.

Covid:

Tests not capable of differentiating Covid, influenza, etc.(Journal of Infection)
What the authorities are talking about and why some tests were withdrawn is a fact that early tests were not multiplexed, which means that they cannot determine if you have a flu


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I have no idea about your level of biological science sophistication, so I don't know if you are simply ignorant or willfully distort the facts.
Ironic statement, given you've claimed I was wrong and then paraphrased my point to disprove me.

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Please stop posting opus size anti-vax propaganda on WO (it's not a right place)...and get vaccinated for crying out loud.
..and, don't kid yourself, you are NOT pro-vaccine and pro scientific method, you are far away from both.
You are doing precisely what I asserted in my closing remarks. You fling around emotional, illogical dribble and ad hominems.

I have all the usual vaccines, as well as degrees in mathematics and mathematical statistics.
As such, I am more qualified to quantify and analyze any potential issues arising than a biologist or doctor based on the available data.
In fact, statisticians are the ones who tell the medical professions which of their experiments are safe and effective.

So kindly take your arrogance and fuck right off you anti-science cultist.
4  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2021, 12:39:27 AM
One of the statements above is false. Sweden in fact does have mass Covid vaccine rollout.
Around half the population, which is comparable to some of the "antivax" states in the US and significantly lower than the most vaccinated locations.

It's great the vaccines exist because they seem to reduce number of deaths in those aged 70-80 and over. (That SEEMS to be the case, the real test will be this coming winter in the northern hemisphere) However vaxing a 12 year old with what is a vaccine that has not had multi year long investigations for a disease that mostly does no harm in youngsters seems COMPLETELY ridiculous to me.
At least temporarily. And having to re-inject a vaccine that comes with significant side-effects I see zero evidence that prophylaxis and early treatment wouldn't be overall safer for at-risk demographics. Though I would certainly be happy if everything available worked as advertised.

Vaccine passports also seem mental. Not sure what the fuck is going on in Australia and France. They seem to have lost their minds.
Dystopian power grab. This is no longer coNsPirAcY theOrY but evident truth. I hope the vaccinated in Italy burning their vaccine passports out of solidarity won't be the minority.

If not we're all in deep trouble, "The Great Filter" comes to mind.

But why did the case load drop off in India without mass vaccination where this variant started? Why did bodies stopped floating in rivers?
To your second question. They apparently never did, at least not due to Covid. That was an issue that existed long before in India.
For your first question. As far as I'm aware, India started using Ivermectin just like Mexico. I haven't dug into India because there's enough data available for IVM even without it, but that could potentially explain your question (presuming the claim is correct).


More importantly how do we move forwards at this point.
Try to share the truth as far and wide as possible.

I'm at my wit's end though. Good friends, including some with PhDs in natural sciences from the most prestigious universities in the world, operate strictly based on emotion and all sorts of other logical fallacies when confronted with data, peer reviewed studies and contradictions in legacy media reporting. And that's assuming I can even get them to look at the facts.

People appear so ridiculously afraid of being labeled tinfoil, antivax, lizard-Nazi that they shut down any objective discourse.

The only way to stop that is by converting as many as possible and preying for exponential networking effects to win over the propaganda before it's too late.
5  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2021, 11:12:17 PM
Doctors claimed cigarettes were healthy in the fifties.  Maybe he is referring  to that.
I was indeed referring to that, as a historic example of corrupt doctors and scientists. Nothing new, still exists, won't go away.

Which is why calling people AnTiVaXxEr helps nobody but those that try to profit off of our ignorance and in-fighting.
6  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2021, 11:07:58 PM
Which brand of cigarettes does your doctor smoke to stay healthy?

Your going to have to flesh out those comments for me to follow what your trying to say and don't just link some retard site.
I'll start with: I am pro vaccine, pro scientific method, pro empiricism. I am, however, vehemently against turning the entire population into unwitting guinea pigs for power and money hungry degenerates.

And I'll follow with: I got bored compiling. Feel free to ask for elaboration on anything and I'll try to get around to it as soon as possible.

Anyways, this entire issue is too complex to do justice in a post or two. I'll try to keep it as brief as possible, but will be happy to expand on any aspect (including verifiable sources).

I'll divide this into four categories, and use color coding to indicate unimpeachable facts, statistical/scientific facts, speculation and personal opinion based on the available circumstantial evidence, things I remember as objectively demonstrated but am not sure about my ability to reconstruct the source in a timely manner (due to falsely assuming I wouldn't have to file everything in a private database). Note that I'm making no allegations beyond what I say directly. A fact is a fact, but a factually existing incentive does not necessarily imply abuse of it, just the possibility.

The tl;dr is that the entire pandemic response was one of the biggest crimes in human history, that there is zero evidence that Covid is nowhere near as bad as claimed, that even doctors and scientists have spread misinformation numerous times (be it out of ignorance or greed; hence the reference to the smoking ad), that aNtIvAxX is a bullshit phrased weaponized by propagandists, that the vaccines do not work, that there are available treatments, that treatments are being censored for profit & power thus directly leading to hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths - which I hope are criminal negligence and not deliberate.

Covid:

  • Low mortality rate without treatment as evidenced by national excess mortality data, fatality data, and studies.(WHO)(Johns Hopkins)
  • Majority of hospitalizations in people aged around life expectancy, morbidly obese or otherwise immunocompromised.(CDC)(ONS)
  • Various available treatments (revoking the legal grounds for EUA of the vaccines) with statistically significant efficacy and decades long studied safety profiles.(C19early)
  • Mexico shows that we could end the pandemic almost over night.(MX Government)
  • Pandemic could have been ended before it even started.(JPost)(USPTO)

Testing & Data Collecting:
  • PCR tests used to legitimize the pandemic produce disproportionate rates of false positives.
  • Different number of cycles used based on vaccination status (#cycles correlate with accuracy).
  • Tests not capable of differentiating Covid, influenza, etc.(Journal of Infection)
  • Deaths falsely attributed to Covid.(IPAK)
  • Financial incentives to overreport Covid infections(The Guardian)
  • Vaccine injuries underreported due to fear of being labelled antivax as well as gaslighting into believing 100% safety.(JAMA)

Lockdown & Mandates:
  • Caused an almost $4 Trillion USD wealth transfer from everyone to the crooks legitimizing the illicit measures.(BI)(The Guardian)
  • Zero evidence that lockdowns stop, or even slow down, the spread of Covid.(ESCI)
  • Zero evidence that masks stop, or even slow down, the spread of Covid.(ESCI)
  • Obvious power grab (dystopian levels of monitoring and control despite incongruence with science).
  • Sweden had no lockdowns or mandates, has comparatively low vaccination rates and excess mortality at pre-pandemic levels.(FEE)

mRNA Vaccines:
  • Novel treatment deployed for the first time in history.
  • Never has any treatment been rushed out like these mRNA vaccines.
  • Zero longitudinal studies imply with 100% certainty that the long-term safety and efficacy are unknown.
  • Do not appear to really work as advertised.(CDC)
  • Countries with highest vaccination rates correlate to those with the highest per capita rates of new outbreaks.
  • Despite underreporting, highly questionable side effects that would have and indeed have in the past stopped trials in the past.(JAMA)(NCBI)(JAMA)
  • Spike Protein can pass blood-brain barrier and concentrates in virtually all tissue (as opposed to localizing at injection site).(EMA)(NCBI)
  • Appear to be relatively harmless for now, but could potentially be very dangerous. Thus making a mass rollout an objectively terrible idea.
  • Print tens of billions of dollars for the shills pushing it.
  • Could potentially trigger something called "Antibody-Dependent Enhancment (ADE)", which would make the disease far worse for the vaccinated.(Robert Malone [inventor of mRNA vaccination])
  • Virtually nobody knows if they really got the vaccine or just a placebo.(UK Government)
  • Should not be given to anyone who had a previous infection and thus natural immunity. (NIH)(Cell)
  • Half of FDA & CDC unvaccinated.(Fauci)
  • PhDs among the most hesitant to get the mRNA vaccine.(MedRXiv)
  • Gibraltar is about 100% vaccinated and still has Covid cases.

Propaganda & Censorship:
  • Constant lies and fear porn that do not align with the data or science.
  • Holding every imaginable and often mutually exclusive positions.
  • Vilification of factual, scientific and data-driven discourse as "evil, braindead, grandma killing antivaxers".
  • Deplatforming and deleting of comments (including peer reviewed papers and official government databases) on every major online platform.
  • Pulling of published papers from renowned universities and journals, to stop the truth from coming out.
  • Defunding of research (publish this or else).
  • The above also applies to scientists and doctors.(MIT's Lex Fridman & Eric Weinstein)
  • Repeated use of stock images.
  • Individuals allegedly dying to Covid multiple times in multiple locations.
  • Elites ignore all mandates once they think cameras go off, because they know they're a bunch of bullshit.

Not making any claims as to what exactly happened here and not connecting any dots. Just stating some facts below.

Conflicts of interest:
  • Fauci led NIH controls funding for researchers.
  • Fauci owns significant shares in Pfizer and profits substantially from the mRNA vaccine.
  • Drugs used to treat common mRNA vaccine injuries further boost pharma sales.
  • Censored drugs used to cure Covid cheap, effective, unpatentable, e.g. implying lower profitability.(C19early)
  • Pfizer profiteering off of suppression of available cures(Pfizer)


Strange coincidences:
  • Obama lifted ban on "gain of function" research.(NIH)
  • Fauci warns Trump of surprise pandemic.(Yahoo)
  • Fauci funded "gain of function" research in Wuhan.
  • Fauci & MSM covered up Wuhan leak, touting it as a coNsPirAcy TheOry.
  • Four African presidents who chose not to deploy the mRNA vaccines in their countries were murdered.
  • Let #n be an arbitrary 1~4 digit integer. Google "#n new Covid cases". Check the articles.
7  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2021, 05:05:47 PM
I don't think you're doing anyone a favor by pushing animosity over focusing against the shitbags that try to divide, plunder, enslave and if necessary murder us.
8  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2021, 05:04:11 PM
I'd call it manslaughter, if not murder, caused by rampant corruption by, per definition, fascist governments and corporations.

The prudent approach would have been any number of available drugs before mass roll-out of novel treatments.

But the fact that those wouldn't have printed money surely has nothing to do with it.


Which brand of cigarettes does your doctor smoke to stay healthy?
9  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2021, 05:01:36 PM
He was in the "at risk" category (>60 and obese).

And likely wasn't properly treated with any of the available and proven drugs either.

Not sure if he was generally "antivax", but being against an experimental treatment with zero longitudinal studies, question marks and multiple safe and effective treatments available is anything but tinfoil.

The contrary position, e.g. believing for-profit corporations that have been convicted of fraud numerous times, however most certainly is.
10  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2021, 11:19:16 PM
Painting it as "kill people you don't like murderous BS" ignorantly misses the point. I thought coiners were smarter than that.

You can paint it in pink and pretend it's a fucking unicorn but threatening to kill people is not cool, and posting about it on intertubes is terminally stupid. I bet most "coiners" are smart enough to realize this, particularly if they intend to stick around to enjoy blow and hookers their coins.

But hey, free speech is great for exposing morons like that so - yay.
You keep painting unicorns. In reality, they specifically declared that they will defend themselves in case of unconstitutional mandates and physical assaults.

Defending yourself from tyrannical governments is precisely what 2A is for.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing that out, especially if everything else is failing to stop the totalitarian anti-science lunacy.
11  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2021, 10:24:18 PM
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Make no mistake, this is a backdoor Bitcoin ban.

Compliance is impossible. Their intent is to criminalize full nodes, lightning nodes, and most Bitcoin wallets.

https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1423471937318129668

... it appears that the Democrats have gone full nazi, now championing effectively what is a BITCOIN BAN in the USSA

... hope all you leftie coiners here are happy with your choice of jackboot, at least now we can see the colour of the jackboots that will stomp on the throat of bitcoin so we know who to shoot back at
Are you suggesting they have ever taken a break?
12  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2021, 10:19:38 PM
Dude, we're having an awesome identify the drink game and you rudely off topic interrupt with a stupid vaccine p+s link?  Just dont....

Well, it's not so much a vaccine link but more of a "kill people you don't like" murderous BS. I must apologize for calling this twat "another nutcase", it's a whole new level of batshittery.

W0w, you clicked on that fucktards links?Huh

I did too, and I kind of liked them.
Seconded.

Painting it as "kill people you don't like murderous BS" ignorantly misses the point. I thought coiners were smarter than that.
13  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2021, 09:16:29 PM
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Make no mistake, this is a backdoor Bitcoin ban.

Compliance is impossible. Their intent is to criminalize full nodes, lightning nodes, and most Bitcoin wallets.

https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1423471937318129668

... it appears that the Democrats have gone full nazi, now championing effectively what is a BITCOIN BAN in the USSA

... hope all you leftie coiners here are happy with your choice of jackboot, at least now we can see the colour of the jackboots that will stomp on the throat of bitcoin so we know who to shoot back at

Of the five senators mentioned in the tweet, 3 are Republican. Just so you know who's stealing your bitcoins instead of trusting the over-excited marcus here.

Are people really still unaware of the Uniparty? Almost no such thing as Republicans or Democrats.

They're just larping to keep people too distracted from pushing back.

Biggest racket in history.
14  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 06, 2021, 08:59:41 PM
Kind of corny.
15  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 06, 2021, 08:55:01 PM
Just came by to change my password and drop a


weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


This is going to be the fun one.
16  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2020, 12:32:35 AM
Good morning Bitcoinland.

Briefly touched the $7xxx range before correcting a little... currently $6660USD/$9507CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Still a week and a half in Mic's contest. This should be interesting.

Stop using the paper money. Seriously, paper money is the easiest way to spread any kind of germs.

Not my paper money.  Cool


You may want to seal those, just to be safe against deterioration and tearing.
17  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2020, 12:19:27 AM
I believe Torque is correct, Our overlords will absolutely blame the virus on the market movements and the FED's reaction to printing 1.5 trillion to prop it up longer.  One must wonder if it was entirely engineered and timed, the virus, the panic, the markets, the money printing. Idunno Roll Eyes
Wouldn't put it past them if the WHO and other establishment organizations played it down until they got ready for some good old insider trades before ringing the alarm bells.

I'd be seriously surprised if there was anything that they could learn this late in that would shift the situation from "who cares" to "full panic". These issues are too well studied.

/tinfoil
Well that didn't take long to come to light.
18  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2020, 01:08:29 AM
LOL assuming his people has enough.

Nothing against US but I think US has enough then what's the point to do such things. In China there are people who struggles to have proper meal a day. Don't they deserve some attention?
It's likely just excess stock. It's not like you can magically convert it into food. And even if it wouldn't last very long.
19  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 14, 2020, 03:00:16 PM
Perhaps you might even be able to figure out that 1 USD at time t (e.g. in the year 1995) is almost never the same as 1 USD at time s =/= t (e.g. today).

Yes, it is. 1 USD = 1 USD, always, every day since April 2, 1792.

Your example doesn't hold regardless of the presence of a central bank as it concerns the argument at hand.

 Roll Eyes

My example was serving to make what you were saying more logically palatable, and then you mangled it to make it once again illogical.

When bitserve said this:

It's just an equal sign with both *IDENTICAL* values at each side of the equal sign. That shouldn't be debatable.

he is _clearly_ talking about a reflexive property here, X = X. You are arguing against that, saying no, X doesn't equal X because X before is different than X now. While its value changes, the USD is not inherently different. It is always the same denomination of legal tender to be used in the U.S. for goods and services. The _value_ as measured against a basket of currencies or a gallon of milk or whatever is different -- that is a characteristic of X. You're just saying flat out X ≠ X, which is dumb.
You sound like you'd identify as genderfluid.

At least Bitserve can make arguments and have debates in an attempt to communicate, while you just bring up complete crap and then run your mouth every single time you post anything.

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While its value changes, the USD is not inherently different.
Yes, it is, that's the point. One is always under any circumstance functionally reflexive over time, regardless of whether you compare a 2019 BTC with a 2019 or a 2041 BTC, the other is not. I'd tell you to learn to read but that clearly won't save you.

The matter of fact remains, as soon as a central bank prints too much money the underlying fiat currency loses its function as money which is something that can not happen with BTC. Nobody ever tried to argue that the denomination changes. That's the whole point of the argument.

Fiat currencies deliberately muzzle this fact and it's clearly going way over your head.
20  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 14, 2020, 05:16:41 AM
Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.


Bitcoin is not fungible. And that is a problem IMO. Already today you see that mixed coins are worth less (Coinbase freezing your account) and coins without a transaction history (straight from the miners) or auctioned by the US Marshals are sold for a premium.

So sorry to wake you up at this time of the day but 1 BTC really is not like the other 1 BTC.
https://nypost.com/2013/05/15/43-8-million-for-this/

Paint is not fungible. Some people are just really stupid.
Are these pseudo-art retards trolling or are they geniuses when it comes to laundering money? What is even going on in that world?
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