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1741  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: May 06, 2019, 02:07:11 PM
1742  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 06, 2019, 02:05:25 PM
guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks

No.

Small, medium and large are all relative terms. How long is a piece of string?

What is needed is Bitcoin.

What is not needed is almost all of the non-Bitcoin coins (a.k.a. shitcoins). Now, BCH & BSV are the king and queen of shitcoins. Not to mention the "self-proclaimed Satoshi Nakamoto" Craig S. Wright. He is certainly NOT needed.

tl;dr
Buy Bitcoin (BTC).


1743  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Small blocks, middle blocks or big blocks? on: May 06, 2019, 02:02:09 PM
bitcoin gave itself to the mercy of altcoins because at that time there was neither BCH nor BSV



1744  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 06, 2019, 09:34:59 AM
guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
Maybe, maybe not.

But we certainly don't need CSW and his shitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139844.msg50918896#msg50918896
Nobody needs BSV, period.

It's run by and associated with demonstrable human trash that deserves absolutely no spotlight.

I'm fine with jbreher advocating for larger blocks for technical reasons.


But CSW is obviously not interested in any technical argument. He isn't even competent enough to have one.
He's a filthy human scumbag that lies and deceives and can't produce a single original thought in his Master thesis.
His "winged" grades are worse than my grades with zero preparation or attendance.

And I'm certainly nowhere near capable enough to think up Bitcoin. So anyone south of me clearly isn't going to be either.

Add all the deception and plagiarism on top and you've got a piece of shit that should be ostracized by all of humanity, including any of his attempts to gain power.

For genius forgivable almost any behavior
1. No.

2. CSW is factually retarded, not a genius.

@alevlaslo lol who CSW??  Cheesy ok i'll engage, what would need to happen for you to admit that CSW is just a charlatan? That is, can you think of any outcome that would make you question your god (e.g. you'll disown him if he won't sign anything with Satoshi's keys by Jan 2020, or you'll disown him if Ayre's shill payment doesn't com in etc...)? So far you only put up a circular argument where CSW can do no wrong.
1-He doesn't want to prove that he's Satoshi because he's Satoshi
2-Every fart that comes out of his mouth is forgivable because he's Satoshi  
3-If you don't believe that he's Satoshi goto 1

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/166/kleiman-v-wright/

Case 9:18-cv-80176-BB Document 166 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/03/2019 Page 1 of 4



                                   UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
                                   SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA

                                 CASE NO. 18-CIV-80176-Bloom/Reinhart


  IRA KLEIMAN, as personal representative of
  the estate of David Kleiman, and
  W&K INFO DEFENSE RESEARCH, LLC.

                 PlaintiffS,

         v.

  CRAIG WRIGHT

                 Defendant.

  ___________________________________/

   ORDER ON DEFENDANT’S MOTION REGARDING PRODUCTION OF A LIST OF
   THE PUBLIC ADDRESSES OF HIS BITCOIN AS OF DECEMBER 31, 2013 [DE 155]

         Before the Court is the Defendant’s Sealed Motion Regarding Production of a List of the

  Public Addresses of his Bitcoin as of December 31, 2013 (“the Bitcoin Holdings Motion.”) [DE

  155]. The Defendant filed a Motion to Seal the Bitcoin Holdings Motion, DE 151, which the

  undersigned granted. DE 153. Plaintiffs filed their Response under seal. DE 162. For the reasons

  stated below, the Court finds that redacted, unsealed versions of the Bitcoin Holdings Motion and

  the Plaintiffs’ Response to that motion can be filed in the public record. Nothing contained in the

  instant Order discloses material that remains under seal.

         The Court, sua sponte¸ has reconsidered its Order granting Dr. Wright’s Motion to Seal. It

  is this Court’s general policy that its proceedings are public and Court filings are matters of public

  record. SDFL Local Rule 5.4(a). A party seeking to seal materials related to a discovery motion

  must satisfy the burden for a Rule 26 protective order, that is, good cause. Chicago Tribune Co.

  v. Bridgestone/Firestone, Inc. 263 F.3d 1304, 1312-13 (11th Cir. 2001); FTC v. AbbVie Products,
Case 9:18-cv-80176-BB Document 166 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/03/2019 Page 2 of 4



  LLC, 713 F.3d 54, 63 (11th Cir. 2013). Having had the opportunity to review the party’s pleadings,

  the Court finds there is good cause to seal portions of the pleadings, but not the pleadings in their

  entirety.   Redacted versions of those pleadings can be filed in the public record without

  compromising the original purpose for sealing them. 1 The Court will allow the parties to be heard

  before finalizing its redactions.

          At issue is whether it would be unduly burdensome for Dr. Wright to produce a list of his

  bitcoin holdings as of December 31, 2013. This Court has held multiple discovery hearings that

  addressed issues relating to Dr. Wright’s current and past bitcoin holdings. DE 107 at 120-123;

  DE 122 at 61-63; DE 124 at 18-23. Ultimately, the Court ordered Dr. Wright to produce a list of

  his bitcoin holdings as of December 31, 2013, without prejudice to Dr. Wright filing a motion for

  protective order based on undue burden. DE 124 at 18-23.

          Thereafter, Dr. Wright filed an unverified motion in which he identified a number of

  bitcoin public addresses that he mined. Although not delineated as a Motion for Protective Order,

  that is what the pleading is. Dr. Wright asserted that he does not have a complete list of the public

  addresses he owned on any date, including December 31, 2013. He further asserted that in 2011

  he transferred ownership of all his bitcoin to a blind trust. Although he makes the conclusory

  statement that it would be unduly burdensome to produce a list of his bitcoin holdings as of

  December 31, 2013, this conclusion is not supported by facts. In essence, he does not argue undue

  burden, he argues impossibility. The argument that Dr. Wright is incapable of providing an

  accurate listing of his current or historical bitcoin holdings was never presented in any of the prior

  hearings before this Court, when the Court was crafting the scope of discovery. Notably, the



  1
   Remaining under seal are the names of non-parties and the identifying information for the amount
  and identity of certain bitcoin. In addition, discovery material attached to Plaintiffs’ Response as
  Exhibits 1 and 2 remains under seal.
                                                        2
Case 9:18-cv-80176-BB Document 166 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/03/2019 Page 3 of 4



  Bitcoin Holdings Motion does not refute the obvious response to this argument – get the

  information from the trustee of the blind trust.

         In response to Dr. Wright’s Motion, the Plaintiffs ask the Court to order the following

  additional discovery: (1) make Dr. Wright produce the list of bitcoins owned as of December 31,

  2013; (2) make Dr. Wright identify all bitcoins he transferred to the blind trust in 2011; (3) make

  Dr. Wright produce documents related to the blind trust; (4) make Dr. Wright identify, under oath,

  the identity of the current and past trustees of the blind trust, the beneficiaries of the blind trust,

  and the manner in which the bitcoins were transferred to the blind trust; and (5) permit further

  deposition of Dr. Wright with regard to his ownership and control over bitcoins. DE 162 at 5-6.

  The Court finds that this additional discovery is warranted. The Court has already found that

  tracing Dr. Wright’s bitcoin holdings is relevant to the Plaintiffs’ theft claims. The order to

  produce a list of bitcoin holdings as of December 31, 2013, was a compromise; it was the Court’s

  attempt to provide Plaintiffs with relevant and material evidence without unduly burdening Dr.

  Wright. That Dr. Wright now argues it is not feasible for him to identify the bitcoin he held on

  December 31, 2013, does not diminish Plaintiffs’ entitlement to the pertinent evidence. That

  evidence can be obtained through other means, which the Court will authorize Plaintiffs to use.

         It is therefore ORDERED that:

         1. Dr. Wright’s Motion Regarding Production of a List of the Public Addresses of His

             Bitcoin as of December 31, 2013, [DE 155] which is deemed to be a Motion for

             Protective Order, is DENIED.

         2. The Order to Seal [DE 153] is modified to allow for the filing of redacted copies of DE

             155 and DE 162. The Court will provide copies of its proposed redacted pleadings to

             the parties, but will not yet file those redacted pleadings on the docket. The parties



                                                        3
Case 9:18-cv-80176-BB Document 166 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/03/2019 Page 4 of 4



             shall notify the Court by May 8, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time if they seek additional

             redactions.

         3. On or before May 8, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, Dr. Wright shall provide to

             Plaintiffs a sworn declaration identifying the name and location of the blind trust, the

             name and contact information for the current trustee and any past trustees, and the

             names and contact information of any current or past beneficiaries.

         4. On or before May 9, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, Dr. Wright shall produce to

             Plaintiffs a copy of any and all documents relating to the formation, administration, and

             operation of the blind trust.    The production shall be accompanied by a sworn

             declaration of authenticity.

         5. On or before May 15, 2019, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, Dr. Wright shall produce all

             transactional records of the blind trust, including but not limited to any records

             reflecting the transfer of bitcoin into the blind trust in or about 2011. The production

             shall be accompanied by a sworn declaration of authenticity.

         6. Dr. Wright shall execute any and all documents, or other legal process, necessary to

             effectuate the release of documents in the possession, custody, or control of the Trustee.

         7. Any ruling on whether Dr. Wright’s deposition should be re-opened will be deferred

             pending the production described in this Order.

         DONE AND ORDERED in Chambers this 3rd day of May, 2019, at West Palm Beach in

  the Southern District of Florida.




                                             UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE


                                                       4

1745  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: May 06, 2019, 09:01:27 AM
best moment for buy

RSI below 30 means oversold


1746  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 06, 2019, 08:10:43 AM
guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
Maybe, maybe not.

But we certainly don't need CSW and his shitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139844.msg50918896#msg50918896
Nobody needs BSV, period.

It's run by and associated with demonstrable human trash that deserves absolutely no spotlight.

I'm fine with jbreher advocating for larger blocks for technical reasons.


But CSW is obviously not interested in any technical argument. He isn't even competent enough to have one.
He's a filthy human scumbag that lies and deceives and can't produce a single original thought in his Master thesis.
His "winged" grades are worse than my grades with zero preparation or attendance.

And I'm certainly nowhere near capable enough to think up Bitcoin. So anyone south of me clearly isn't going to be either.

Add all the deception and plagiarism on top and you've got a piece of shit that should be ostracized by all of humanity, including any of his attempts to gain power.

For genius forgivable almost any behavior
1747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: May 06, 2019, 08:02:19 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139844.msg50918896#msg50918896
1748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: May 06, 2019, 08:00:46 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139844.msg50918896#msg50918896
1749  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 06, 2019, 07:58:59 AM
guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
Maybe, maybe not.

But we certainly don't need CSW and his shitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139844.msg50918896#msg50918896
1750  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Small blocks, middle blocks or big blocks? on: May 06, 2019, 07:57:13 AM
guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks BTC, medium blocks BCH and large blocks BSV
1751  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 06, 2019, 07:51:50 AM
guys, stop swearing, we need all three types of bitcoins at the same time: small blocks, medium blocks and large blocks
1752  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Can We Find Him ? on: May 06, 2019, 05:59:28 AM
Big sense, Satoshi will tell which from three bitcoin real, and what branch he supports:
 BTC, BCH or BSV
1753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: May 06, 2019, 05:45:03 AM



1754  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы. on: May 05, 2019, 09:02:04 PM
Хаш проснулся, восстановление на криптопии обещает, а значит и цены? https://twitter.com/MyHushTeam/status/1125137905205248005?s=20
1755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: May 05, 2019, 08:48:00 PM
1756  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы. on: May 05, 2019, 08:43:24 PM
биток уйдет ниже 1000 с первыми целями 3000-2800-1900, как бе так.


Удачи дружище! Жди биток ниже штуки и выше ни за что не покупай!  Grin

p.s. а я думал, что остались ждуны 1.5-2к за биткоин (гуру технализа), оказывается есть и колоритнее персонажи  Grin

А вполне может, вон уже у сторонников битка задрожали колени:

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Д-р Крейг Райт подает исковое заявление по иску о клевете против подкастера Питера Маккормака
Действие клеветы доктора Крейга Райта против Биткойн-подкастера Питера Маккормака сделало еще один шаг к разрешению.

В середине апреля Райт подал официальный иск о клевете против Маккормака, ведущего подкаста What Bitcoin Did. Маккормак очень публично обвинил Райта в мошенничестве за то, что он утверждает, что он Сатоши Накамото, псевдонимная личность, стоящая за разработкой и публичным выпуском технологии биткойнов.

На прошлой неделе адвокаты Райта подали иск против Маккормака в Верховный Суд Великобритании, подразделение Queen's Bench. В документе приводятся многочисленные примеры официальной учетной записи Маккормака в Twitter, называющей Райта мошенничеством, первоначально в ответ на твиты основателя CoinGeek Кэлвина Эйра, который объявил, что Райт начал принимать юридические меры против лиц, отрицающих его претензии Сатоши.

Маккормак публично предложил Райту подать на него в суд, опубликовав физический адрес, по которому можно было бы отправлять юридические документы. Маккормак также призвал своих последователей Twitter ретвитнуть свои обвинения в том, что Райт был (а) не Сатоши и (Б) мошенником, утверждая это.

Маккормак только удвоился оттуда, публично "требуя “подать против него иск, обвиняя эйра в "просто попытке заставить людей замолчать пустыми угрозами"."Когда Маккормак получил юридические документы от адвокатов Райта, Маккормак написал в твиттере, что он” абсолютно" отклонил требования, указанные в переписке, хотя он рекомендовал другим не следовать его примеру.

Маккормак также утверждал, что Райт был мошенником для “продвижения поддельной версии биткойна."Эта якобы" поддельная " версия, описанная Маккормаком, будет Bitcoin Satoshi Vision (BSV), которую Райт и Эйр поддерживают как единственную технологию на основе блокчейна с возможностью масштабирования по цепочке, необходимой для того, чтобы стать действительно глобальной платежной платформой.

В интервью от 16 апреля BlockTV.com Маккормак заявил, что надеется, что стоимость BSV “пойдет к нулю”, и призвал инвесторов отказаться от своих холдингов BSV до того, как произойдет девальвация, и купить биткойн Segwit Coin (BTC), технологию, которую Маккормак публично поддерживает.

В том же интервью Маккормак заявил, что если Райт подпишет сообщение из Генезисного блока биткойн-блокчейна, это даст “довольно значительное доверие” к заявлениям Райта Сатоши.

Но Маккормак также заявил, что подписание Райтом такой сделки “не доказывает [претензии Райта] ко мне” и делает аналогию, в которой Маккормак может “украсть ключи моего соседа и водить их машину ... и утверждать, что она моя. Но это не моя машина; я украл ключи.”

Другими словами, Маккормак подначивает Райта предоставить доказательства, подтверждающие его утверждения Сатоши, одновременно признавая, что эти доказательства не изменят мнение Маккормака. Маккормак, похоже, хеджирует свою ставку, чтобы он мог утверждать, что победил, независимо от того, как дело продвигается в суде.

Маккормак также заявил, что истинная личность Сатоши “не имеет значения” и что, если бы этот человек появился публично без маски Сатоши, его влияние на текущий криптовалютный сектор было бы минимальным.

Здесь снова Маккормак, похоже, хеджирует свои ставки, несомненно, зная, что интерес широкой общественности к личности Сатоши предложит человеку, стоящему за этим псевдонимом, крупную публичную платформу для влияния на будущее криптосектора.

И если этот Сатоши публично заявит, что BSV-единственная технология, которая чтит видение биткойна, изложенное в Белой книге Сатоши 2008 года, это будет означать проблемы для таких, как BTC. Таким образом, утверждения Маккормака о том, что он "ничего не выигрывает" от своих атак на Райта, кажутся столь же точными, как и его утверждения о том, что Райт-мошенник.

Примечание: токены в цепочке Bitcoin Core (SegWit) упоминаются как монеты BTC; токены в цепочке Bitcoin Cash ABC упоминаются как монеты BCH, BCH-ABC или BAB.

Bitcoin Satoshi Vision (BSV) сегодня является единственным проектом биткойнов, который следует за оригинальной Сатоши Накамото, и который следует за оригинальным протоколом Сатоши и дизайном. BSV-единственный публичный блокчейн, который поддерживает оригинальное видение биткойна и будет массово масштабироваться, чтобы стать новыми деньгами и корпоративным блокчейном в мире.

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1757  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы. on: May 05, 2019, 01:11:55 PM
Запретят ли майнинг в Китае? 80% хешрейта там майнится и 80% электростанций там работают на угле, интересное совпадение. С одной стороны там ужасная экология с частыми протестами, а с другой запрет невыгоден электростанциям

https://bellona.ru/2013/03/13/ekologicheskaya-situatsiya-v-kitae-probl/


Если трансплантационный туризм не запретили, то майнинг точно не запретят. Это так, спекуляции. срать им на экологию. Вам же писали здесь -капиталисты проклятые.

Прогноз - постепенный рост битка в долгосрочном измерении будет продолжаться по плану.

теперь понятно почему биткоин на последнем месте в китайском рейтинге
1758  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Аналитика, анализ, прогнозы. on: May 05, 2019, 11:53:18 AM
Запретят ли майнинг в Китае? 80% хешрейта там майнится и 80% электростанций там работают на угле, интересное совпадение. С одной стороны там ужасная экология с частыми протестами, а с другой запрет невыгоден электростанциям

https://bellona.ru/2013/03/13/ekologicheskaya-situatsiya-v-kitae-probl/
1759  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: All altcoins without proof of work will be destroyed on: May 05, 2019, 11:34:59 AM
the company controls the hashrate, the government controls the company, energy sellers control the government  Smiley

now the most interesting question is whether China will be able to ban mining, in which 80% of the bitcoin hashrate, I think that it can not, money is more expensive than the environment for energy sellers even for Communist China

an interesting coincidence: at coal in China is also 80% of power plants
1760  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: May 05, 2019, 08:11:27 AM
until may 15, you have time to buy cheap real bitcoin BSV, but after it will cost very expensive Smiley
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