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61  Other / Meta / Re: THIS IS THE REAL MOREIA!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!! on: January 05, 2015, 09:30:42 PM
There really isn't a way to protect against thermo-rectal cryptanalysis on full disk encryption Smiley You're just as vulnerable with a laptop or a smartphone.

There is only one protection from this special force - MultiSig: parties involved in escrow will never sign improper tx.
62  Economy / Services / Re: ☑ Veritas Escrow Service ★ MultiSig safe transactions support [BTC/LTC/DOGE/PPC] on: January 05, 2015, 02:29:49 PM
Service features have been updated.
63  Economy / Services / Re: New Free Escrow Service Available!!! on: January 05, 2015, 09:48:37 AM

and thus, we should use the multi-sig method?  Grin

be patient, o son of adam. for if thy way is rightful and provably secure, humanity shall take heed of it in time.
 Tongue

I mean for real, I know about the multi-sig method, but as the only one who is using it is you; which are a fairly new member, people are bound to have some suspicions. that's just how people are.

Actually, my service is only for support MultiSig transactions via RPC system (I'm not usual escrow agent).  Without any support You can use Bitcoin Armory wallet or PPC and NVC clients with implemented MultiSig GUI.
64  Other / Meta / Re: THIS IS THE REAL MOREIA!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!! on: January 05, 2015, 08:39:25 AM
One major problem is that a phone is very easy to misplace/get stolen. This would potentially make it easy for a potential attacker to direct people to send funds to an address not actually controlled by redsn0w if he were to put down his phone for even a few seconds too long

That is right! Only need to make correct conclusions... Wink

Smartphones have full disk encryption now adays. If you've turned it on and are using a strong passphrase and a strong lockscreen passphrase you'll be pretty protected from physical thefts. Additionally PGP keys are usually encrypted with a passphrase when not in use.

This will not protect from human error, physical compromising (soldering iron in the ass) and from disappearing of agent/service...
65  Economy / Services / Re: New Free Escrow Service Available!!! on: January 05, 2015, 08:34:51 AM
If you are referring to redsn0w's recent blunder then people will likely use an escrow service that is more mature and has a longer history of trading, and demonstrates their understanding of proper security procedures  

Very sad, that people can not understand, that more mature escrow service and longer history can not protect from human error, hacking/physical compromising and from disappearing of the agent/service...  Cry
66  Economy / Services / Re: ☑ Veritas Escrow Service ★ MultiSig safe transactions support [BTC/LTC/DOGE/PPC] on: January 04, 2015, 09:16:52 PM
Thank you for understanding and reply, we will be happy to provide You our service.
67  Economy / Services / Re: ☑ Veritas Escrow Service ★ MultiSig transactions support [BTC/LTC/DOGE] on: January 04, 2015, 04:43:20 PM
yeah but I don't get why anyone would want to use you for escrow when there are already so many more reputable escrow providers who have done many transactions.

the question is why would anyone take this risk, even if minimal to none, when there are already much less risky options?

What can happen with anyone who looking for "more reputable escrow providers": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=911232.0

What conclusion from this story can make everyone? - Never trust to the third party (YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO THIS!!!), use MultiSig transactions escrow for valuable things, only this can protect You from third party error...
68  Economy / Services / Re: New Free Escrow Service Available!!! on: January 04, 2015, 01:37:37 PM
I was looking for a escrow service, but I am afraid once sender sent you the coins, you disappear. You know the drill? You sound very sincere, I trust you are honest guy.
However, if you do 3 way transaction, then probably someone will use you. That is too technical, I don;t know the details.


Here is a list of more established escrows if you are still looking for one.

I'm wonder how somebody still use the third party escrow in bitcoin community Huh  Especially after the last events...
69  Other / Meta / Re: THIS IS THE REAL MOREIA!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!! on: January 04, 2015, 12:19:41 PM
I am actually surprised as to how many people were using him as escrow in the first place. I saw him setup an escrow transaction from his phone (at least that is what he was saying he was doing). I highly doubt that he would be able to maintain sufficient security nor would he be able to PGP sign any message from his phone

Well it's possible to do, we don't have nokias 3310 anymore Smiley it's called smartphones with smart apps.

Funny trolls. Where are You? Grin
70  Other / Meta / Re: THIS IS THE REAL MOREIA!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!! on: January 04, 2015, 12:13:40 PM
What conclusion from this story can make everyone? - Never trust to the third party (YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO THIS!!!), use MultiSig transactions escrow for valuable things, only this can protect You from third party error...

If you had checked this thread. you would have seen MultiSig could not have prevented this. It was a simple, and costly, oversight from redsn0w.

You are wrong, I had checked this thread carefully. In case of using MultiSig (example):

1. Moreia want to loan 0.8 btc from lihuajkl and will provide own acc. for collateral.
2. redsn0w creates 2-of-2(3) MultiSig address from Moreia and lihuajkl public keys.
3. lihuajkl sends 1.6 btc to MultiSig address.
4. Moreia transfers his acc. to lihuajkl after tx completion.
5. redsn0w prepares 0.8 btc tx from MultiSig address to Moreia.
6. lihuajkl and Moreia check and sign it, 0.8 btc goes to Moreia.

lihuajkl is responsible for security of Moreia acc., in case of failure he can lose 0.8+0.8 btc.
Moreia is interested to return 0.8 btc, otherwise he can lose his acc.
redsn0w is interested to be everything smoothly because he can lose his 1% fee and reputation (funds can be returned back via private keys input).

7. Moreia returns 0.8 btc back to the MultiSig address.
8. After tx completion lihuajkl returns acc. back to Moreia.
9. redsn0w prepares 1.6 btc tx back to lihuajkl (-1% to redsn0w).
10. lihuajkl and Moreia check and sign tx, 1.6 btc goes back to lihuajkl (-1% to redsn0w).

Everything is secure. Everyone is happy in any possible situation.
71  Other / Meta / Re: THIS IS THE REAL MOREIA!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!! on: January 04, 2015, 10:25:35 AM
What conclusion from this story can make everyone? - Never trust to the third party (YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO THIS!!!), use MultiSig transactions escrow for valuable things, only this can protect You from third party error...
72  Economy / Services / Re: ☑ Veritas Escrow Service ★ MultiSig transactions support [BTC/LTC/DOGE/PPC] on: December 21, 2014, 08:36:44 PM
Great News! New dialog available in the latest versions of PPC and NVC clients allowing basic operations with multisig addresses (more easily than with the RPC system):



73  Economy / Services / Re: ☑ Veritas Escrow Service ★ MultiSig transactions support [BTC/LTC/DOGE/PPC] on: December 17, 2014, 05:26:15 PM
PPC support added. Enjoy safe trades with Your favourite coin!

Test result: https://coinplorer.com/PPC/Transactions/bf0a16025e5b52c99b4199d75b363a79a258d22702bd186d60faaa73a27e00fd
74  Economy / Services / Re: ☑ Veritas Escrow Service ★ MultiSig transactions support [BTC/LTC/DOGE] on: December 11, 2014, 11:23:30 AM
Thanks, Newbie Grin. But waiting for reply from а "Full Member".
75  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Re: * STARBUCKS EGIFT JUST 12% * on: December 11, 2014, 10:19:08 AM
Need trusted escrow? Use MultiSig transactions.
76  Economy / Services / Re: ☑ Veritas Escrow Service ★ MultiSig transactions support [BTC/LTC/DOGE] on: December 11, 2014, 10:11:03 AM
Escrow from a NEWBIE
Hehehe Nice try
Go and have a sleep.. Don't waste your time

I will pay 0.5 BTC if You provide to us argumentatively prove that regular escrow from hero trusted member is better than MultiSig transaction escrow from a NEWBIE.
77  Economy / Services / Re: ☑ Veritas Escrow Service ★ MultiSig transactions support [BTC/LTC/DOGE] on: December 09, 2014, 08:08:36 AM
while I understand the added security of multi-sig I still wouldn't trust any money with a newbie or people who's reputation I cannot verify.

Sorry, but without any arguments this is empty words...

P.S. Most people get trusted feedback while trade. MultiSig escrow agent don't need to be a trader!
78  Economy / Services / Re: ☑ Veritas Escrow Service ★ MultiSig transactions support [BTC/LTC/DOGE] on: December 08, 2014, 10:33:52 PM
Need reliable escrow? Contact us via PM or Tox. Unlike other secure messaging solutions, Tox does not require you to be a computer programmer to use it. Tox comes out-of-the-box with an easy-to-use interface:
79  Economy / Services / Re: ☑ Veritas Escrow Service ★ MultiSig transactions support [BTC/LTC/DOGE] on: December 07, 2014, 02:14:44 PM
Our service is also available on litecointalk.org now.
80  Economy / Services / Re: ☑ Veritas Escrow Service ★ MultiSig transactions support [BTC/LTC/DOGE] on: December 03, 2014, 09:36:06 PM
DOGE Coin support added. Enjoy safe trades with Your favourite coin!


Upd. Test results.

Buyer address: DUJcm1yh1uXAcgHpWJFybXVuUEeGiYFqK3
MultiSig address: 9rTnpxiVZC4rmHE6E2KFWtqsxWvs21SgaC
Seller address: DKto2emNY8jFNukyjX1LzgLSc3YuwTHbQC
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