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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Tulip Trading Bot - from 0.1 LTC to 40 BTC on: February 18, 2015, 10:26:13 PM
Do you live in the Netherlands or in Switzerland? You can visit one of our team members and take a look at the trading history with our own eyes.

I understand the skepticism with all the scams around, but calling names isn't going to make the situation any better. At the very least tell us what we can do to provide the kind of proof you're happy with.

By the way, did you actually read the entire thread? I'm asking because there where exactly 62 seconds between your post and your previous post. I don't believe it's possible to read anything more than the title in this time frame...
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Tulip Trading Bot - from 0.1 LTC to 40 BTC on: February 08, 2015, 10:10:39 PM
I promised plots.

This plot shows the total amount of bitcoins we have. The 'total' line is the total amount, the 'active' line is the amount we trade with. The difference between the 2 lines is the amount we've already cashed.


The next plot shows our profit during the first half of 2014. We made a lot of profit on bter and cryptsy. After a few months that stopped. One of our cryptsy accounts has 152554 trades. On bter our trading history was so large that withdraw attempts resulted in server timeouts...
The plots start at 1 BTC. That's because we did not collect any data before that. In the first few months we collected data manually, later we moved to automated tools. Those sudden drops are when we moved bitcoins between exchanges.


Our third plot displays our profits during the second half of 2014.

The bter account was idle most of the time.


Finally, the folowing plot show all data at once. it's quite messy. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18772348/tulip/bitcointalk%20topic/all.png

If anyone wants to see the raw data (csv), just ask.

We also have an trading report from hitbtc.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18772348/tulip/bitcointalk%20topic/report_09-01-2014_02-06-2015.pdf
According to their report we've traded $240k since 1 September, increasing our USD holding from 1787.9333 to 3138.7409. I think that last figure is a bug on their side, as we went from 3.72 to 7.22 BTC according to our sources which is a slight loss in USD.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Tulip Trading Bot - from 0.1 LTC to 40 BTC on: February 01, 2015, 11:24:36 PM
The trading bot will not be open source. The risk that someone will run off with our source code is too high. I also don't believe that somebody with the right qualifications will audit our source code. That stuff is hard.
 
Our chamber of commerce registration should be completed soon, we'll be working on plots tomorrow. If there is anything else we can do we would like to hear it.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Tulip Trading Bot - from 0.1 LTC to 40 BTC on: January 31, 2015, 01:37:18 AM
I expected that question. To back up our claims we have:
Since 22 dec 2013 daily balance data from all exchanges in csv format.
Since feb 2013, half-hourly balance data from all exchanges in csv format.

As we mentioned, we have an open source project that collect this data and creates nice plots automatically. It takes a bit more time to format those plots in a way that the community can't misunderstand them.

Additionally, i am prepared to give a few members of the community access to our accounts so they can download our trading, deposit and withdraw history. The only problem with this is that most of our early profit comes from bter, an exchange which does not seem to keep that data for more than 24 hours.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Tulip Trading Bot - from 0.1 LTC to 40 BTC on: January 31, 2015, 12:59:36 AM
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6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Tulip Trading Bot - from 0.1 LTC to 40 BTC on: January 31, 2015, 12:52:55 AM
December 2013. I discovered Bitcoin and ordered a graphics card to mine altcoins. While waiting for that delivery, I created a simple program in a few afternoons that would do arbitrage on Cryptsy about 10 days, I turned 0.1 LTC in 1 BTC. I sold my miner soon after.

Together with a friend of mine we improved that simple program. Currently we have over 40 BTC, I do not think it is possible anymore to turn 0.1 LTC into a few bitcoin in today's market. But our profits the last 6 months were enough to offset the decline in bitcoin price from $600 to $220, so it is certainly still profitable.

The program has now grown into a trading bot that we want to start selling to the public. The trading bot is a command line application with a configuration file that can be easily created and modified with our GUI. The bot and GUI are separate programs and can be run on different systems. For example run the bot on Linux and use the GUI on Windows.

We are currently running a pilot with a handful of users. The software obviously works, but the user experience is not always ideal. We are mainly focusing on improving that. We expect to go live in a few weeks.

Features
What we do not do:
 - EMA crossover.
 - StochRSI.
 - Fancy GUI's with 20 sliders and checkboxes that need constant babysitting.
 - Send your api keys to our servers.
 What we do:
 - Fully custom trading strategies that have been verified to work in the field. Not just in backtesting.
 - Extremely low maintenance.
 - Easy to configure. Simple GUI with a few options.
 - Track profits via external (open source) application that produces pretty graphs and mail reports.
 - No-nonsense.

Supported exchanges
BTCChina, BTCE, Bter, CEX.IO, Hitbtc, ItBit, Kraken

On these exchanges we support almost all combinations of currencies and cryptocurrencies (only on CEX we do not).

Supported platforms
 - Windows
 - Linux (Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS upon request)
 - OS X support not planned
 - Raspberry Pi upon request

The GUI will probably be open sourced soon, so users with unsupported platforms can compile their own version.

Target audience
The tool is suited for you:
 - if you have too many bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies on the shelf.
 - if you are into cryptocurrencies for the long run.
 - if you understand the risks of cryptocurrencies and exchanges.

 
FAQ
 Q: Are you a registered company?
 A: We are working on this.

 Q: Do I pay taxes on every purchase?
 A: If you live in the EU, yes.

 Q: I do not live in the EU what now?
 A: we are still trying to figure out how this works...

 Q: Can I re-sell this software?
 A: As required by law, you may re-sell your license to anyone else. Please contact us after you have done this, so we can update all contact information. Only one person can use a license at a time.

 Q: Can I receive a refund?
 A: As required by law, yes. Our local law requires 14-day full refunds, such refunds will be issued in the same currency as you have paid.

 Q: Do I receive future updates for free if I buy a license?
 A: We are working on this.

 Q: Sounds cool. How much will it cost?
 A: probably more than a few around a few bitcoin.

Terms and conditions
We are still discussing the exact terms. There's a high chance it is going to be based on Dutch law.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 【BOT】 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader (130+ Feedbacks) Now On BitStamp! on: November 28, 2014, 07:52:59 PM
where can I see chart or any data of profits made by CAT?

I've posted, in the past, an open source application (created by myself and one friend) which i use to collect my own trading profits based on python and matplotlib:
https://github.com/sDessens/Bitcoin-Exchange-Crawler/

Given the amount of clicks i've gained with that link (about.. one unique click..), the C.A.T. community does not seem to be interested with keeping their profit data even for personal uses.


this looks fucking awesome, but i am currently afraid to give it access
It's open source. If you don't trust me, review the code yourself.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 【BOT】 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader (130+ Feedbacks) Now On BitStamp! on: November 27, 2014, 11:00:49 PM
where can I see chart or any data of profits made by CAT?

I've posted, in the past, an open source application (created by myself and one friend) which i use to collect my own trading profits based on python and matplotlib:
https://github.com/sDessens/Bitcoin-Exchange-Crawler/

Given the amount of clicks i've gained with that link (about.. one unique click..), the C.A.T. community does not seem to be interested with keeping their profit data even for personal uses.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 【BOT】 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader (130+ Feedbacks) Now On BitStamp! on: November 27, 2014, 10:36:28 PM
I'm not new here, i have been following this topic since december last year. It saddens me that the same person who has received so much feedback during that time regards consumer's right with about the same value as used toilet paper.

I don't care if you change your TOS or not. I just want you and your customers to be aware of their rights. In fact, an TOS which is so absurd is actually an advantage to customers who know their rights well.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 【BOT】 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader (130+ Feedbacks) Now On BitStamp! on: November 27, 2014, 08:28:16 PM
I have no interest in buying cat, nor i know anyone that owns, has owned, or is planning on buying C.A.T.. I'm merely informing you of the fact that your TOS is completely invalid. The fact that bitcoin is not money is also irrelevant, if you accepted large amounts of toothpicks as payment what i've said in my previous post still applies. Don't forget to declare taxes on those toothpicks.

And yes, i can buy C.A.T., request a refund, and continue using it. But A) that's your problem, not mine. B) i would be breaking the law if i would.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 【BOT】 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader (130+ Feedbacks) Now On BitStamp! on: November 27, 2014, 05:58:59 PM

LOL  Cheesy
This pretty much sums up what's wrong with the sotware and small hardware market.
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- C.A.T. is not an hardware, you cannot send me back a copy (even if you want)
Fortunately, that's your problem. Not the problem of your customers. Only select services are exempt from the refund policy. Such as plane tickets or goods such as meat or milk, for obvious reasons. If i buy software online, such as microsoft word or an app from the google store, i can request an refund within 14 days.

Because you've forgotten to state a return policy, you'll have to refund the value (in your or the customer's local currency) of the product at time of purchase if anyone wants to return your product.

Sources:
http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/shopping/shopping-abroad/returning-unwanted-goods/index_en.htm
http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/shopping/buy-sell-online/rights-e-commerce/index_en.htm
local lawsuit which i can't bother to lookup right now.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 【BOT】 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader (130+ Feedbacks) Now On BitStamp! on: November 26, 2014, 11:03:59 PM

Reselling works this way : you must sell C.A.T. + Core, or you can sell only CORE and loose API Key (you don't give your API to new user, or you give only the API where you haven't send any document to trade on USD Markets).


I don't think that's legal. First, you are legally required to allow your customers to resell your software. Google 'usedsoft vs oracle' for more information, arbitrary restrictions such as 'your license is connected to your API key' won't hold up. Second, EU law requires an minimum period of 14 days in which the user can issue an full refund. This does also not combine with your terms. If you forget to inform your customers of this right for whatever reason, the grace period is automatically extended to 6 months.
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