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961  Economy / Speculation / Re: Prediction we will hit $7.50 in the next 3 weeks. on: July 23, 2012, 09:02:37 PM
that's an obvious prediction.  Pirate's eventually going to take us down there for at least 10 minutes.  I think the chance of it settling down at 7.5 is 0, though.
962  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Want to buy - the world's first 25 BTC block on: July 23, 2012, 02:48:58 PM
40 BTC now. Smiley
963  Economy / Speculation / Re: rally got goxxed again on: July 23, 2012, 12:51:55 PM
hmm, i got disconnected. and all my orders were set to "pending" and i couldn't cancel them. is there any way to trade on mtgox exchange without using their website?

classic.mtgox.com always seems to work better for me when the main site starts to lag. Also the android app as a last resort.

Ha, didn't know that was there. Memory lane.

When I went there it seemed like it was August '11 again.
964  Economy / Speculation / Re: I have made a 25% return this week trading *against* the pirate on: July 23, 2012, 12:29:51 PM
Will you also come and brag about it when you lose 25%? lol
This

I love how nobody's learned to keep their damn trading secret...
965  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM on: July 22, 2012, 09:22:56 PM
I just want to note that the inputs to most of the transactions coming into that address are of roughly equal size.  One transaction I saw was this: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/2400953/5092db43aaf839c01c982fa3ac170b74f7c72b92028af0ed23de99e21779781c

As you can see, all the inputs are around 30 BTC.

This may help in determining the nature of this address.
966  Economy / Speculation / Re: Guesses on when we'll break $10 on: July 22, 2012, 03:47:39 AM
Have'n a beer watching the game  Smiley

10$ will either appear next week, or in 4 months

I think its very likely we will be seeing a short term down trend from here. much like 7.20 to 5, this time the 9.50 high will stabilize at 7$ 8$

but in the long term and mid term  bitcoin is defiantly going for a never ending bull run.

Its not unreasonable to think an EXTREME price correction on the up side will happen in the next few years, it really wouldn't take much to set off the bomb that is bitcoin

For consistency a correction like from 7.2 to 5 would be either 6.6 for a relative calculation or 7.3 for absolute.


Actually, using the start and end of the rally and a relative calculation:

10^(((log(5)-log(2))/(log(7.22)-log(2)))*(log(9.7)-log(5)) + log(5)) = 8.02
10^(((log(3.87)-log(2))/(log(7.22)-log(2)))*(log(9.7)-log(5)) + log(5)) = 7.03

If things go the same way, we will sustain a crash to 7 but stabilize at 8.  That is if 9.7 is the high for this rally, which I very much doubt!
967  Economy / Speculation / Re: Guesses on when we'll break $10 on: July 21, 2012, 11:38:46 PM
Coming soon:

968  Economy / Lending / Re: Dat Rabiit wants Eight Coins (13% Intrest loan) on: July 21, 2012, 11:18:07 PM
holy shit... you can never let down your guard.  If I had any coins when the scammer PMd me I would've sent them.
969  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: July 21, 2012, 06:55:19 PM
It's hard to say what exactly is going on here, but it sort of looks like there's a fight going on between one person who tried to induce panic selling and another person who tried to induce panic buying.

I really should bring out that "charge" picture again...
970  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Flash Crash on Mt.Gox today? on: July 20, 2012, 06:43:09 PM
There was a brief crash today from 8.58 down to 8.22 then immediately back to 8.52 within single digit seconds.

Result: Clark moody promptly died, btccharts stopped ticking, Mt. Gox went unresponsive for the duration, and bitcointalk went down for a minute or less.

Someone bought several thousand bitcoins at (up to) 0.36 USD below market on Mt.Gox. Can someone explain this anomaly?

I'm not the first time I've noticed that all services are falling at one moment. This is all under one organization? What the hell? Puppeteer has the ability to pull the strings all at once?

Lol, they all get their info from Gox because that's where the info is made, no conspiracy, relax.

The out of range price is because Gox doesn't have good matching software, it's been happening for 2 years.

That's reassuring...
971  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Selling timekoin on: July 20, 2012, 06:38:19 PM
I'll accept those 4532 timekoins but you'll need to pay me 10 BTC.

I have transered to you 1000 BTC

what just happened
972  Economy / Speculation / Guesses on when we'll break $10 on: July 20, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
Third time's the charm?  Perhaps after recovering from this dump (which is not impossible, given that we recovered from the dump from 9.5 to 7.3) we will finally break $10.

What do you think?  This month, or is 9.49 the 2012 high?
973  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crash!!!! on: July 20, 2012, 12:47:35 AM
Quick!  Everyone out of the pool.

it really takes a special kind of person to cheer the bears on while holding coins Wink
974  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crash!!!! on: July 20, 2012, 12:03:20 AM
Maybe we'll finally test $6 and then $5 again.   Grin

lol, denial... such a durable feeling
975  Economy / Speculation / A surprising chart on: July 19, 2012, 09:06:47 PM


....

makes your eyes bulge, doesn't it?  Until you realize.

Goes to show how little depth there is on alternative (non-Gox) exchanges.  Will Gox always be able to use their firstcomer's advantage to squash the competition? :\
976  Economy / Speculation / Re: What If Scenario - Bitcoin capturing 1% of Western Union Transaction Fees on: July 19, 2012, 02:42:12 AM
This thought experiment is probably full of some large holes, but just as an evening diversion I thought I'd throw this in here.

Western Union made $1.16 Billion on transfer fees in 2011.

$1,160,000,000

One percent of that figure is:

$11,600,000

Total number of BTC that represents at a current market price of  9.14 is:
~1,269,146

That number is about 13.38% of total Bitcoins in circulation.

Now, looking at mtGox's order book: http://mtgoxlive.com/orders

At the time of this posting it would take $432,281 to reach the price of 10.93

Now, the 'big leap' - if we can assume that same dollar amount for every +$1.79 of price movement (offers consistently appear) then:

$11.6 million divided by $432,281 = 26.834 multiples of $1.79 rise in price, so the final price is:

26.834 * $1.79 = 48.03357

Current price 9.14 + 48.03357 = 57.17357

And now, this is where you say 'no offers will come' and 'we won't get 1% of international wire transfers'. Still, interesting based on some really small figures from the real world, wouldn't you agree?


This is the 1000th time I've seen a thread saying, "if Bitcoin were to capture Herp industry and Derp fees and Hurr business, one bitcoin would be worth $10000000000000000."

I've got a constructive recommendation: perhaps we should move all of these threads of the same form into a megathread, titled "Price Scenarios" or something.
977  Economy / Speculation / Re: Notice how the price declines only in a late American evening. on: July 18, 2012, 08:35:50 PM
The price is quickly bought up after every dump only to face another minor one. Sale after sale, the price remains resilient. We all know where the price ought to be.

"If only nobody sold, then it would go to $100."

no shit sherlock
978  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [ANN]New Bitcoin exchange - Bitcurex.com on: July 18, 2012, 02:36:45 PM
Me love bitcoin Grin
979  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: July 18, 2012, 01:54:04 AM
aaah, another drop Sad

why the hell didn't we go to $10?! Wink
980  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: July 18, 2012, 12:57:33 AM
DING DING DING
     9$

and there we go, we got $9 without huge 50k bid walls or huge 40k BTC buys.  This is the natural price.
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