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on: September 19, 2017, 02:42:51 PM
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We were discussing this in the Slack channel. I don't speak on an official basis for this project or any other, but when someone like this person comes along and tries to tell you this or any other project is a winner you had best take a long, deep think before you do anything. This project has an interesting scope, it has an interesting vision and it could be extremely financially rewarding at some point in the future. However, our dev does not openly communicate updates until he has solid stuff to share (that's at least my opinion on the matter). This project is not an investment for the faint of heart. When you buy into any project that has been around as long as this one, you're lining the pockets of people who invested 2-3 years ago and have made anywhere from 50 to 100x their initial investment. Please, do your own research. Do your own thinking. By all means, go and explore projects that people suggest, but please do not go all in or take wild risks thinking you're going to come out the other side with a billion dollars. Because you most likely will not, and 99.9999999% you will not if some guy on YouTube suggests you invest in a project.Of specific note is that this person has not talked about the project as an "interesting project" but rather primarily as a vessel for investing your money in. This is a technology project first and foremost. The only money factor is what people have decided to arbitrarily give this currency. One day what they arbitrarily assign it may work for you and the next it may not. I can personally promise you that all the money I've made in crypto (which is a decent amount) has been through reading and researching by myself. I've spent somewhere in the region of 2-3000 hours reading about various projects and making my own decisions. Please, please do not follow these kind of people for your own good. Sorry but I don't care for the pump dump bullshit. If I make money off this, I want it to be because the dev has actually delivered on a cool project that works. There's already a guy who took out a bunch of credit cards and got himself in serious debt thinking this project was a guaranteed money maker. It's not. I can't sit idly by and let people throw their money into the drain, if I can at least throw up a huge warning sign and let you be aware that unless you're looking at this as a risky, volatile investment then you're making a huge mistake. And yeah, I might come out of this by having made this post with less money in my pockets. So be it. It isn't right to sit by when things are not right. As you have done lots of analysis and are a long-term supporter, you're basically saying the same thing as the YOUTUBE guy BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY I'm mostly saying that people should keep their expectations in check. The same as any other time someone tries to pump and dump a project you get people coming in the slack/riot asking when the dev is going to release news. Like there's a magical answer to when to buy or sell a project. There isn't.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VTR] vTorrent - Share with freedom | 2FA | HD | @Bittrex
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on: September 19, 2017, 10:09:51 AM
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I can't sit idly by and let people throw their money into the drain, if I can at least throw up a huge warning sign and let you be aware that unless you're looking at this as a risky, volatile investment then you're making a huge mistake. And yeah, I might come out of this by having made this post with less money in my pockets. So be it. It isn't right to sit by when things are not right. WATCH OUT! HE IS MAKING YOU DUMP TO ACCUMULATE MORE. People are desperate these days. F you dev if you let everyone to pump, dump and bash your project. This thread is useless, dev doesn't care so let's start promoting other coins that are not scam. Thanks for the accusation. For the record I have been around with this project since about day 1. At one point I held about 700k VTR, I hold less now. I hold a position in numerous other projects. To clarify fully my involvement in this project so far: - I've paid for cryptoguru blockexplorer for multiple months
- I've filled up the cryptoguru faucet
- I've paid somewhere in the region of 20-30k VTR as bounty for stuff
- I've paid for a VPS for the dev to use
All in all I've spent somewhere in the region of $5-10,000 USD in support of this project. Besides the financial investment, I've spent countless hours discussing the project and answering questions from people on here, the Riot chat room as well as slack. I have no interest in manipulating the price. I'm interested in an actual functioning project, which you would know if you'd read back through my posts where I detail how important it is (in my opinion) to have an incentivized marketplace for bandwidth. I do not think its destined to fail, but I don't think people should be buying it based on some guy on YouTube with a bottle of moet on his desk saying its a great buy. When people were claiming there would be a huge update on block 1,300,000 or whatever it was, I was also there providing caution and doing my part to keep people's expectations in check. I can summarize what I'm saying with this: All that glitters is not gold.
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on: September 19, 2017, 09:41:48 AM
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We were discussing this in the Slack channel. I don't speak on an official basis for this project or any other, but when someone like this person comes along and tries to tell you this or any other project is a winner you had best take a long, deep think before you do anything. This project has an interesting scope, it has an interesting vision and it could be extremely financially rewarding at some point in the future. However, our dev does not openly communicate updates until he has solid stuff to share (that's at least my opinion on the matter). This project is not an investment for the faint of heart. When you buy into any project that has been around as long as this one, you're lining the pockets of people who invested 2-3 years ago and have made anywhere from 50 to 100x their initial investment. Please, do your own research. Do your own thinking. By all means, go and explore projects that people suggest, but please do not go all in or take wild risks thinking you're going to come out the other side with a billion dollars. Because you most likely will not, and 99.9999999% you will not if some guy on YouTube suggests you invest in a project.Of specific note is that this person has not talked about the project as an "interesting project" but rather primarily as a vessel for investing your money in. This is a technology project first and foremost. The only money factor is what people have decided to arbitrarily give this currency. One day what they arbitrarily assign it may work for you and the next it may not. I can personally promise you that all the money I've made in crypto (which is a decent amount) has been through reading and researching by myself. I've spent somewhere in the region of 2-3000 hours reading about various projects and making my own decisions. Please, please do not follow these kind of people for your own good. Sorry but I don't care for the pump dump bullshit. If I make money off this, I want it to be because the dev has actually delivered on a cool project that works. There's already a guy who took out a bunch of credit cards and got himself in serious debt thinking this project was a guaranteed money maker. It's not. I can't sit idly by and let people throw their money into the drain, if I can at least throw up a huge warning sign and let you be aware that unless you're looking at this as a risky, volatile investment then you're making a huge mistake. And yeah, I might come out of this by having made this post with less money in my pockets. So be it. It isn't right to sit by when things are not right.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VTR] vTorrent - Share with freedom | 2FA | HD | @Bittrex
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on: September 13, 2017, 08:17:41 AM
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Hey Dev, as I am sure you have seen, the peer count is dropping weekly. We are now down to 5 active connections. Orphan rates are up too. At some point soon you need to provide information so people have a reason to do something other than day trade the VTR token which to me seems all anyone is doing here, just look at the trex books. Come on man...
There are actually quite a few more peers than 5. It depends on your connection/firewall and a number of other factors.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][VTR] vTorrent - Share with freedom
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on: September 11, 2017, 04:38:25 PM
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Great concept, don't mess it up. Lol!!! this developer has more time for everything other than this project. And no guarantee if your coins would automatically vanish because of the bug!!! I suppose now that the POW blocks are over we wont be seeing the dev online ever again.....we can see him once or twice if he still has his coins to be dumped onto some noob buyers! Ignore this guy, hes a cunt Now that you have nothing to say about this shitty coin. So you will resort to name calling like your mother. Noob choke on your mothers boob!Brilliant insult from Rakesh there!! People have been thanking him for bumping the thread for 33 months now. Thanks for all your valued support Rakesh! Keep up the great work!
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on: September 11, 2017, 04:13:59 PM
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...snip....
I love FUD. It's an indication that the project is doing something worthwhile. Between now and $1/VTR, there will be plenty of FUD. The greater the FUD, the stronger the project. Keep it up. It's a great way to bump the thread. Thanks. p2p crypto rewarding p2p. What a great natural fit. +101 Dev. Lol!!! $1...ahahah!!!! How much have you invested .5 btc....noob!!! Reminder that when Rakesh made this post back in January 2015 the price of VTR was 0.00000350. It is now 0.00004250. That's also not even taking into account the Bitcoin price change from ~$250 USD to today's price of $4235. So if he had actually invested 0.5 BTC @ 0.00000350 he would've purchased ~142857 VTR valued at about $125 USD. Today that same amount would be worth 0.5 BTC @ 0.00004250 which is valued at 6.07 BTC -- $25710 USD That represents a 20468% increase. That is a 200x increase! Thanks for your valuable insight and opinion Rakesh; it doesn't match up to the 300x increase you had with Ethereum but I think a 200x return is actually quite decent! It's also great that you've been following the vTorrent project for 33 months of your life now. Please continue to keep us up to date on your daily life and opinion. I look forward to seeing you still here in 2019.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VTR] vTorrent - Share with freedom | 2FA | HD | @Bittrex
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on: September 10, 2017, 07:29:12 PM
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Guys, I realize that we haven't had a response from our dev, but could we all please try and keep civil.
We all know it's frustrating, we all know it's tiring, and we're all waiting for the same thing. We're all looking for answers and we haven't gotten any solid answers just yet.
Please just try to keep your manners about. Cryptocurrency is a lot bigger than just this unique project and it doesn't help anyone to engage in arguments. Try to keep tactful with what you say and do, especially when messaging people who only have a vague relation to this project.
None of us would do any good by turning away people in the cryptocurrency space by saying things that don't help anyone.
And no, I can't speak officially or anything or force anyone to act anyway. It's just a polite request.
Thanks.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VTR] vTorrent - Share with freedom | 2FA | HD | @Bittrex
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on: September 10, 2017, 07:21:51 PM
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Guys,
These two days I had short conversations with pnoch. He's now outside Thailand to attend a conference, but will be back in a few days. Please give your suggestions on which coin do you think our new fork should be based on. I will work 6 days in a row and I have Wednesday and Thursday off. Then I will work on a new wallet design and hopefully Isaac will have time to help.
Team, feel free to contact me on Facebook or Telegram to share your thoughts if you don't want/can't comment here.
Cheers, Spartak
Why Pnoch is working on some shitcoin? When are you going to release the video/wallet? We know it's working, make a zcash fork, increase your premine, swap the coins and everyone will be happy. That "shitcoin" has a team with members spread across 10 countries. They are still on stand by and as you can see - no one is crying, despite we have nothing for the past 1.5 - 2 years. We haven't asked for money from anyone and we're still here after more than 3.5 years. I have been working with pnoch for more than 3 years now and you are NOT the one who should tell him/me on what he/me should work on! I apologize for that person's attitude. People are a little frustrated due to the lack of dev's communication and are starting to look in all the wrong places for answers.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VTR] vTorrent - Share with freedom | 2FA | HD | @Bittrex
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on: September 01, 2017, 10:51:11 AM
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To add to the theories...
I believe the tech is ready but there are legal hurdles to this project that are being confronted. And this could take months or years, or may prove insurmountable. Shadowcash, which this wallet's code is based on, rebranded and refocused their target market for this reason. Bittorrent = legal Bitcoin = legal ZCash = legal I'm struggling with the legal hurdles you are trying to say need to be confronted. There is even some VHS case in America that makes Bittorrent legal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc.IF the devs wish to monetise this project, ala Particl, they'll need to thoroughly investigate and prepare for the legal consequences of users sharing copyright material. The entertainment industrial complex has way more money and lawyers. Wrong. Otherwise Bittorrent itself would've been legally challenged.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VTR] vTorrent - Share with freedom | 2FA | HD | @Bittrex
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on: August 24, 2017, 04:40:39 PM
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It was a sarcasm. I heard that InPay is going to release their torrent tech next week. Torrentchain will be releasing gui next week. Kimdotcom is frequently sharing some news. VTR dev is falling behind. - InPay is just a decentralized bittorrent tracker
- TorrentChain deleted their post and has only had something like 20 eth worth of investments
"We are getting threats from people so we are closing this thread. We can accept criticism, which is understandable because how our project and methods are different, but no threats are acceptables, especially when people want to dox hard working devs just because they see us as a threat for their own project or agenda. " - Kimdotcom's project has been renamed as "K!M". Besides releasing one concept video, he hasn't released anything. He claimed that he would be releasing stuff this month as well as opening up a second round of financing, but August is quickly running out...
- Kimdotcom's project is not a cryptocurrency (as has been discussed on here at length already). It is a legal company with stocks that will have to be listed on a stock exchange (which kind of defies the point of it even being involved with bitcoin or cryptocurrency at all.
- Kimdotcom further claims that his 'bitcache' project is going to revolutionize Bitcoin itself, which is a huge claim to make and he hasn't yet delivered anything on it
- Kimdotcom spends 90% of his time praising Donald Turnip, talking about boring ass politics and rarely ever discusses K!M or indeed even Bitcache
So yeah, I don't know how you can fall behind when no one has even really started the race. Besides which only VTR was 'fairly distributed' via mining. Correction/update: Kimdotcom has adapted his project to be an ICO which will launch like next week or something. I assume he didn't go that route initially when he started it because the whole "ICO hype" concept didn't yet exist. Now it does.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VTR] vTorrent - Share with freedom | 2FA | HD | @Bittrex
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on: August 23, 2017, 02:07:57 PM
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It was a sarcasm. I heard that InPay is going to release their torrent tech next week. Torrentchain will be releasing gui next week. Kimdotcom is frequently sharing some news. VTR dev is falling behind. - InPay is just a decentralized bittorrent tracker
- TorrentChain deleted their post and has only had something like 20 eth worth of investments
"We are getting threats from people so we are closing this thread. We can accept criticism, which is understandable because how our project and methods are different, but no threats are acceptables, especially when people want to dox hard working devs just because they see us as a threat for their own project or agenda. " - Kimdotcom's project has been renamed as "K!M". Besides releasing one concept video, he hasn't released anything. He claimed that he would be releasing stuff this month as well as opening up a second round of financing, but August is quickly running out...
- Kimdotcom's project is not a cryptocurrency (as has been discussed on here at length already). It is a legal company with stocks that will have to be listed on a stock exchange (which kind of defies the point of it even being involved with bitcoin or cryptocurrency at all.
- Kimdotcom further claims that his 'bitcache' project is going to revolutionize Bitcoin itself, which is a huge claim to make and he hasn't yet delivered anything on it
- Kimdotcom spends 90% of his time praising Donald Turnip, talking about boring ass politics and rarely ever discusses K!M or indeed even Bitcache
So yeah, I don't know how you can fall behind when no one has even really started the race. Besides which only VTR was 'fairly distributed' via mining.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 🔴 TorrentChain 🔴 Anonymous blockchain based torrenting 🔴 [ICO][BOUNTY]
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on: August 20, 2017, 10:40:56 AM
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You're asking for around 10 million dollars though. This is a hugely premined ICO and not a 0% premine project.
I'd expect some kind of evidence/show of what stage the project is actually at before you'd ask for funds.
There are so many pump and dump ICOs coming out of the woodwork, and sadly if you don't have anything to show then there isn't much to differentiate you from them.
ik_do, Only 70,000,000 Tokens will really be premined and 50,000,000 of them will be distributed for the reward program. The rest of tokens will be created live for each ethereum payment. This mean that if only 5M$ is raised, only 350,000,000 more Tokens will be created. We can't keep the rest because it won't exist. Also I talked with the tech guys and they confirmed to me that they will be able to show nice things before the beta launch. Stay updated. :-) _____________________________________________________________________ Are you guys the same people behind vTorrent, which looks abandoned now?
Nashamoto, We are not the team behind vTorrent. However we followed the project closely. It's a shame that the project is abandoned. Message to the creator : if you happen to read this, contact us. We may have a plan for you and your community. team@torrentchain.ioEven if its not fully premined and regardless of what's happening with tokens. You're asking for up to 10 million USD. You please need to show SOMETHING which shows something about the ACTUAL PROJECT not just words.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 🔴 TorrentChain 🔴 Anonymous blockchain based torrenting 🔴 [ICO][BOUNTY]
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on: August 19, 2017, 10:16:03 PM
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"All files are encrypted then sharded across multiples hosts for redudancy and speed. Our protocol apply a privacy layer to all exchanges, using the blockchain and miners as middlemen : your anonymity is preserved"
Have you got any more technical information besides this? Also, what's the reasoning for announcing this so late? Your site claims its been in development since 2015, yet no whitepaper, no beta client, no screenshots and no proof that there is an actual project?
Hello ik_do, I'm not part of the (very busy) tech guys, but I will do my best to explain it to you. The TorrentChain protocol is based on I2P (Invisible Internet Project) and more precisely on the I2PSnark service which allows anonymous P2P file sharing (sounds familiar right ? ). Basically, contents are adressable by a pair of public keys instead of using the traditional IP. From that protocol the team worked on the sharding and the blockchain integration ( + miners) to replace the nodes used in I2P. The recent announcement is because of the sudden costs realization that the team is facing right now. The team members had jobs outside of the project until early this year when they decided to quit so they could work on the project full time. Because living is not free, a salary is necessary. Also, the code audit by the external company is costing us a lot. We are talking about tens of thousands of dollars. This cost was in fact what triggered the need for a crowdsale. I'm sure some members working in a similar field can understand. The whitepaper can only be written by our tech team because of the complexity. I will of course be helping them but only on the publishing side. They are getting almost live feedback from that company and don't really have the time for it now. They are really doing their best because they want to launch a good product with all the announced features. For example the GUI is not the primary focus right now, only command line is really useable, which is a problem because this is needed for a wide adoption. Note: Related to my last sentence, I am sure that there are some very talented developers in the community. We are really in need for an expert in GUI Design (C++), please send us a mail if you are able to contribute. TorrentChain Team You're asking for around 10 million dollars though. This is a hugely premined ICO and not a 0% premine project. I'd expect some kind of evidence/show of what stage the project is actually at before you'd ask for funds. There are so many pump and dump ICOs coming out of the woodwork, and sadly if you don't have anything to show then there isn't much to differentiate you from them.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VTR] vTorrent - Share with freedom | 2FA | HD | @Bittrex
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on: August 19, 2017, 03:09:10 PM
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Dear all,
Just to clarify, we are NOT in any way related to 'torrentchain' or any other ICO projects.
Regards, vTorrent
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why no communication tree months people be sad
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