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121  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Reasons for newbies loss in bitcoin on: August 22, 2021, 06:37:04 AM
my friend that new in this world, try to invest in bitcoin when the price low, (before the last highest). but, he never have patience and just sell when the price drop just a little. he lost some, and regret after know that the price is grow. view month ago, he join on some telegram group for crypto, and loss money again because of scam.
122  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you take a crypto loan? on: August 21, 2021, 10:05:32 PM
I never tried lending platforms but I had previous experience in the lending section and sometimes you could get higher interest depending on the duration of the loan. It's probably worth as long as you can afford to lose those funds, regardless of the amount you earn it all adds up once you have several lenders and like they've said why not try creating a thread in the lending section first to get a feel of what it's like to have your own lending service.
same having experience with lending section.
its good choice to make fund with no hardwork, but you must go run after get what you need, run to pay the bills.
the main problem is do you believe on stranger to lend your crypto? it can be happen if you know people, where living, and have the other rule that make you keep easy to hold them
123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are all altcoins dependent on Bitcoin? on: August 21, 2021, 11:02:28 AM
depend on what people think about it. sometime, they will say that the price will up or down because bitcoin bla bla bla. the point ia they are different, people will believe more on bitcoin than altcoin. converting alt to bitcoin is good for most people.
124  Economy / Economics / Re: Have you been grateful for today? on: August 20, 2021, 10:08:24 PM
i always learn how to be a good person.
my friend as a member always sell its coin after receive from bounty, but sometimes he will hold it. but, he never regret after decide it, big or small profit will convert into grateful. he think, its enough to change that money into food for some day.
125  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto vs Fiat on: August 20, 2021, 11:06:18 AM
follow my thoughts on the picture you are referring to and compare the future profitability of crypto as well as fiat money on savings, this is if true what you are trying to send to people then in my opinion you are right about the current cryptocurrency if we hold it for a long time such as 5 years, now the number is x many times and the fiat money they make is quite low and almost if 5 years later then that profit will be 0. why because 5 years later money loses value and the bank refund rate is very low and we also refund zero.

In my country if we save money in banks then we only get bank interest of about 10% per year, of course this is a very small value if we invest in crypto, since 2016 I only filled my savings for daily and monthly needs, the rest I immediately bought crypto, This is a move that will make me a big profit one day.
Of course investing in crypto is much more profitable than saving money in a bank because saving money in a bank is not an investment. when you save in the bank the money is used for capital and the 10% interest per year you get is only a small part of the profits the bank gets.
what we talking about is invest in something, and you cant compare between bank and crypto, because they are totally different.
and thats true if money cant make great move like crypto, because we know what is money.
bank, just for store your money. keep it save, to make transaction on real life, and other thing you need.
126  Economy / Economics / Re: After 1 year of Covid 19 Virus on: August 19, 2021, 11:00:37 AM
many people ask about vaccine in my place, after gov get some of it, many poeple reject because they afraid about side effect. and the distribution is just on big city, hidden village cant get this stuff. in some village, they agree to not use vaccine, and when they got covid, they just ignore because they really dont know about this one until all of family infected. in a fact, they just recover like dont have any problem
127  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The use of Bitcoin as a local currency! on: August 19, 2021, 03:35:09 AM
older dont really know enough about bitcoin, you need to explain more and more. when younger know about bitcoin, they will find the best way how to use it, i mean for money.
its hard to use bitcoin as a currency if people know how potential it is.
nation need to create own local currency, just for transaction, not as investation
128  Economy / Economics / Re: "Crypto is no longer in the early adoption stage" on: August 18, 2021, 10:09:05 PM
Actually they do understand, and it just happened to be that it goes against them. Imagine that you're governing a lot of people and your people would use something that is under your radar/observation. Pretty much you would think that they are doing something against you.

The part that they don't understand is that people need the privacy in their own money, not to be regulated by someone that is at risk of being taken away from them.
agree, leader will stroke people who follow their rule. when people dont follow it, they have some option like ban what people hold.
but its hard to give privacy up to people, because control is the best part of leadership, to give higher convenience to do what they want
129  Economy / Economics / Re: Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return on: August 18, 2021, 11:04:42 AM
Soldiers don't go to war just because they can win or not, they did that to safe their families and friends, they crave for peace and better future,  if there aren't soldiers in your country you won't have peace and time to come on here, are you the type of man that condemned the sacrifice of soldiers? They are better than you and I mate, think deeply, also this has nothing to do with crypto investment and economy if you aren't ready to take risks or probably lose you won't be able to win if you invest in crypto, with the will of taking risks and the will of learning from your mistakes you will eventually win.

sometimes they force to play war, they dont have any option, just do it first before the opponents do it first to you.
and yeah, mistake you made will give high percentage of winning. pilling up experience make user stronger.
high risk high return is absolute thing, and knowledgeable with full of experience is absolutely absolute
130  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency is the biggest investment opportunity in the future on: August 17, 2021, 10:06:22 PM
my friends dad ask about trading. he is from old generation and in our opinion, he cant reach about news technology, but he ask about trading that can give you big profit when using bot.
slowly but sure, the older will know the news information when watchbsome advertise on some media, and asking to do something without knowing what they ask. and than start talk about investation in other way, which we already know for a long time.
131  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Pentingnya Diamond Hand on: August 15, 2021, 09:37:49 PM
kata om cz "if you can't hold you won't be rich"
sudah hold, kemudian naik, langsung jual karena sudah merasa rich, ternyata masih bisa lebih rich lagi beberapa saat/tahun kemudian.
hold forever mungkin bisa jadi pilihan terbaik.. lol
sy sendiri kadang ngarep punya doraemon klo liat history wd jadul, intinya ya bersyukur aja, rejeki sudah diatur dapatnya segitu. Grin
 

yang jadi poin karena uda ngerasa kaya, dan rasa bersyukur.
saya sendiri punya dua temen yang punya beda pemikiran, yang satu dia jual koin yang uda hold, cuma misal koin itu masih ke pump, bakalan nyesel (karna uda dijual). satunya lagi punya prinsip apa yang uda didapet, ya segitu rejekinya, jadi gak pernah ngeluh berapa pun hasilnya.
132  Economy / Economics / Re: Miami will launch its own cryptocurrency and reward users with bitcoin on: August 15, 2021, 11:18:19 AM
people will take the profit, than leave the rest. they attract people to use their own crypto, than give bitcoin as reward. and this is the basic skill to draw the attention, it can be successful or just pass away.

Well, it will not surprised me that much because so many people are coming up with all manner of projects which I do believe it will not soon. Whatever things you are. Looking for in crypto currency in general you can find it in Bitcoin then why the need for them to break an alternative.

so far, people will do whatever it is as long as they get profit, they will ignore the reason about leader destination
133  Economy / Economics / Re: The Role of Government in Crypto on: August 15, 2021, 05:15:38 AM
support every exchanger, when there is a problem, they must take a part to solve of it related with crime. there is reciprocity between connected groups.
many government still make a bad face to crypto, and they banned because it possible to attack their country indirectly.
134  Economy / Economics / Re: What is better - cryptocurrency trading or investing? on: August 14, 2021, 10:12:37 PM
I have been a day trader but want to know if it’s a good idea to hold bitcoin for long, whether it will be more profitable?
trading is great than holding coin. when you trade, you will try to convert from one coin multiple coin, and know where is coin that give you big profit for a moment.
my friend do trading every day, and he got big number until it be daily task for him.
135  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: About the popularity of Bitcoin on: August 14, 2021, 11:01:53 AM
i dont have blind friend, and when you put statement about it, the simple is fiat always stay in this society. im not sure in the future we just scan our stuff to barcode when paying something. but, if it realize, people will take care the blind people (like obligation for leader), or just help them when they want to pay something by people around
136  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: mana yg lebih untung : Trading coin vs Hold coin on: August 13, 2021, 11:38:22 PM
ane lebih nyaman hold coin dari pada trading gan, ane selama ini beum ane lepas coin eth dan ane telah mendapat keuntungan dengan memegang coin eth, ane berecana mau inves lebih banyak coin eth ane yakin coin eth kedepan akan semakin mahal gan.
Kalau untuk cari aman sih pasti pilih hold, tapi kalau cari yang lebih menguntungkan mending trading meski resikonya lebih besar dari hold. Trading mampu memberikan peluang keuntungan setiap harinya yang kalau di kalkulasikan hasilnya pasti besar. Namun hal ini juga tergantung dari pedagang yang harus pandai-pandai membaca kesempatan di market.
iya gan. biasanya orang disini buat sambilan aja, dan ada yang punya kerjaan sebagai buruh, dan sebagainya. yang simpel emang holding, dapet koin, tahan aja sampe emang harga dibilang bagus. tapi banyak yang emang kerja disini, jadi trading udah jadi bahan oalahan tiap hari. temen sendiri hasil udah jutaan tiap harinya karna trading
137  Economy / Economics / Re: If you can get paid through cryptocurrency, do you still choose fiat currency? on: August 13, 2021, 09:29:01 PM
paid in fiat is good than crypto, because you can separate how much you buy bitcoin, and for daily life. also, too little for people want to paid via crypto, minimum information or they know how these two things work.
we already know how it feel, paid in crypto from this site. in a fact, mostly, exchange to fiat for life.
138  Economy / Economics / Re: Becoming wealthy and social responsibility on: August 13, 2021, 11:30:32 AM
people will support every good idea come through this site, like implementing what shloud we do about system want. above all of good idea, there is desire to satisfy our hunger, and its hard to dredge it.
the best we can do just helping each other use our power, just help around to change the world
139  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bagaimana dengan negara kita? on: August 12, 2021, 11:27:25 PM
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Saat ini crypto sudah legal di sini sebagai instrumen investasi dan ini sudah terjadi sebelum pandemi.  Dasar dilegalkannya menurut saya karena bitcoin cs sudah diakui dunia sebagai komoditas layaknya emas maka dari itu pemerintah juga mengakuinya. Selain itu pemerintah juga mau mengambil pajak dari investor crypto. Apalagi tren investor kita semakin meningkat berinvestasi di crypto, ini juga membuat pemerintah ingin memberikan pajak kepada trader crypto.
bisa jadi makin banyak masyarakat yang makai, makin bagus juga buat pemasukan negara, dan makin berkembangnya jaman, uda bukan hal lumrah masuk ke dunia digital meskipun crypto masih jauh banget dari kata umum.

Yang pakai kripto sebagai pembayan sih sudah banyak, contoh aja di bali udah dari tahun2 kemarin bahkan saat sebelum bitcoin seBooming sekarang udah banyak kok yang menerima payment via crypto.

Tapi kalau untuk diSahkan dari negara pendapat pribadi gw bakalan masih lama dan butuh proses yang lumayan panjang.

Bali tempat yang bagus buat mengiyakan pembayaran melalui bitcoin, banyak turis dari beebagai negara yang termudahkan kalo ada opsi pembayaran kayak ini.
140  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin after the pandemic on: August 12, 2021, 10:13:21 PM
people nowadays tend to use digital currency ? what is it used for? I don't find people using digital currency except for digital assets only. even though today's technological developments are growing rapidly there are still few people who know digital currency.
Digital Currency is used for a wide variety of conveniences, either to avail or to pay for something. It could also be liquidated and be invested.
I think you misunderstood cause cryptos is one kind of Digital Assets the same thing as any Digital Product used to reach people and earn a result.
Bitcoin might not be mainstream, but the cashless transaction is relevant today. I think people use Digital Currency more than before.

Relative to the number of people who own crypto, the amount of people using it as a currency is practically immeasurable. It's because the vast majority of people who bought into it because of they hype did so because they were trying to get rich. That means holding it for price appreciation, not spending it.
considering the current conditions, digital transactions are indeed safer. actually bitcoin can answer the problem, but hit the problem of legality. until in the end bitcoin is only practically used as an investment or trade to make money, not as a means of payment. but at least during the pandemic, many people are familiar with bitcoin because of yesterday's hype
people say if bitcoin will grow while pandemic attack us. i think, people will use this word because they just play on crypto. i never heard in my place if bitcoin help them as good as it can.
and its not bad if user say if they still helped cause of bitcoin, im sure if there no effect give to user, unless they have anxiety on real life.
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