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1121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 15, 2023, 04:19:06 PM
Quote from: snipie
Quote from: Leviathan.007
Everything is getting worse for Pogba is this season and he was injured for a long time and I think he is still injured, Pogba's test is now positive and Juventus wants to hire another palyer to take his place in the team because he is going to get suspended for four years, probably.
I heard they found high testosterone level in his blood test and they will try to identify what substance he used and for which reasons. Apparently he is trying to cheat and this will cost him a lot. His career isn't good even when he was in Manchester United and things just got worse and worse with Juventus.
By the way Juventus will face Lazio home which is one of the best matches this weekend along with Milan derby. Even Fiorentina and Atalanta match should be interesting.

I don't think, Paul Pogba will escape in this case because he don't look like innocent in this matter because the way he play ball in the field you will know that he is addicted to something despite he is good in handle his position very well. Many teams that released Paul Pogba to another teams did it for this drugs reason, because they don't want their team to bear a bad name like what is happening to Juventus now. I don't think this issues on ground will affect Juventus not to win Lazio in this match, because they have potential squads that can make Juventus to disgrace Lazio 2-0 in their home to maintain a good position in the Italian league table.
It's hard for him to escape from this case. Pogba can only rely on his luck to see a miracle happen with the result from the second test. If pogba will be well proven and then no point for juventus to have him play in the club anymore.
Pogba will not even able to receive 2k euros monthly if juventus will kick him out from the club. Juventus will not even go down without having him in the club.
The old lady has proven it last season. No pogba, no problem. There's no point in defending someone who has proven doing something shady like used dopping to boost his physic.

The only main problem if juventus can get partey from arsenal in january which is still very long way to go.
1122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 15, 2023, 11:58:51 AM
Lautaro Martinez is a really special player. No matter with whom he plays in the attacking line he still continues to show the same performance. He has scored nearly all of Inter's goals in the league this season so far. He has made a duo with Thuram after Lukaku and Dzeko's departures. However Thuram is also a decent player now.

Because of Martinez's high level performance Inter wouldn't like to sell him until he gets quite old that's for sure. But I'm curious about whether Martinez will have the same thing in his mind for a long time. For now he is really happy to be a part of this team. Inter had better maintain their success consistently.
Inzaghi has successfully to make Lautaro Martinez to became an one of the best striker in Serie A and i have to says Inzaghi know the potention of this player that's why since Inzaghi arrived to Inter Milan Lautaro Martinez goals records is increases rapidly and the duet Martinez and Thuram has been change became an one of the best duet in Serie A and they are very dangerous this because from them Inter have already scores 6 goals from 8 goals total during this season and they also as part of the successful Inter to gets 3 winning streak in Serie A and i have to say Martinez can able to performing well this season
Im feeling like if lautaro was always contributing a lot to the club through all of his goals. It feels like that if intermilan was very dependent on him. I may wrong but this is what im feeling when i was seeing inter.
That's pretty interesting to see which club between acmilan and intermilan will get battered. Acmilan is equal to the intermilan compared with last season but the thing that saddened me if acmilan will play without giroud.

I thought that acmilan shall have done a lot better against intermilan this season.
1123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: September 15, 2023, 11:06:52 AM
Aleksandar Mitrović is really on fire and he has just made a hattrick while Al Hilal beat Al Ittihad so this is good news because finally he can adapt with Al Hilal and i am sure today against Al Riyadh he will be played again and probably will scored goal and Al Riyadh so far has been displayed poor performance that they got 3 losing streak and Al Riyadh unable to scores from those matches which mean they have a problem with their attacking lines and besides that their defensive lines also quite poor and this should be a easy match for Al Hilal because they are in the good shape after got 5 winning streak in all competitions so this is good chances for Al Hilal to resumes their winning streak and collect 3 points
All in al hilal is going to be the best choice for now. Mitrovic was so crazy. This guy will able to make another hatrick against riyadh. Riyadh has been performing so garbage during last three matches.
The poor performance from riyadh will make hilal able to enjoy the game without any pressure soon. I hope we will see a surprise that neymar to be included in the starting XI against riyadh. This is also a good momentum for him to do his debut against weak team like riyadh.

The odds is telling us that bookmakers were 99% trusting al hilal to win the game.

Al hilal KSA 1.05
Riyadh 27.00

Riyadh needs more than miracle to beat al hilal. The gap is too far. Riyadh can at very least scoring against al hilal. This will good to give pressure to the al hilal.
1124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 15, 2023, 10:45:09 AM
Too much discussion about Manchester City vs West Ham and Brighton vs Manchester United match.

I'd like to see discussion about Chelsea vs Bournemouth, based on head to head Chelsea is far superior than Bournemouth and Bournemouth haven't win in Premier League yet. But since the match will held in Vitality Stadium and not many of their players are injured, I will take a risk to bet Bournemouth to win.

It's probably caused by the match between city vs westham would be far attractive than chelsea.

Chelsea will keep repeat the same shit against bournemouth. Chelsea was a hopeless team and i will be surprised if chelsea will able at very least scored 2 goals against bournemouth. It's caused by all chelsea has was making some chances combined with shitty touches that will never be converted into the goals and that's it. I dunno where the fuck is wrong with this club but i tired to watch chelsea's gameplay. The club was always doing too much crossing and backpass.

The midfielders and defenders of chelsea are crap. The weirdest thing to put chilwell as left winger and use back four strategy which was never fit to the chelsea's gameplay. It feels like im seeing potterball on pochettino. Chelsea's superiority doesn't even matter in this season.
That's why pochettino was not good enough for chelsea.

1125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Low cap altcoins best for rising price? on: September 15, 2023, 01:55:59 AM
Are you collecting low cap altcoins for the bull market?
Yes, im. I try to collect the low cap altcoins as many as possible before another bullrun that can occur anytime but it must be noted if i were only collecting reliable low cap tokens from the market.
There have been thousands of tokens available in the market but most of them are scam tokens. The next bullrun may able to give same profit as the last bullrun which was happening 2021. I hope it will come again soon.

It sounds like you think low cap altcoins can easily make 100x profits. I don't think so and even if the supply of a good quality project is high then you will get good profit there. Many new investors tend to follow supply more. You should know that there are many low cap altcoins that can't even sail the market in bull seas.
I don't even expect it to give me like 100x times of profits but 5x - 10x are good enough. 100x is too good to be true. You can get your seat ready for the upcoming bullrun.
Even though there were some that may stuck in the same place during the bullrun but i think that the big bullrun will be greatly pumping majority of crypto in the market.

Even some shit scam coins can also be pumped due to the hype in the crypto.
1126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 14, 2023, 11:39:09 PM
If Pogba has been confirmed positive,

If Pogba will be confirmed positive, Juventus will have 2 solutions.

Deleting his contract without any loss, or keep the player without paying his salary for the duration of his contract/suspesion.

The news says that Juventus has already suspended Pogba's salary. According to Italian law, he must receive a minimum salary, so Juventus will pay something in the region of 2 thousand euros per month (LOL) until the doping issue is resolved. If the re-test is not in Pogda’s favor, then most likely the contract will be terminated. I don’t know whether Pogda will be able to return to the field after his suspension, it all depends on the term - if it’s 2 years, then most likely he will be able to, if 4, then it’s very unlikely.

It's crazy to see that pogba will not receive £131k again for a week. Juventus is now seeing partey as his replacement. The club is trying so hard to get him from arsenal even though the gunner will not let partey leaves easily. My guess if arsenal will put expensive price tag on partey.
It's time for juventus to terminate his contract.

https://www.juvefc.com/paul-pogba-will-now-earn-just-2180-euros-per-month/

It's crazy to seeing it happen to him. 2k euros per months with 4 years ban from playing in serie a. It would be enough in making him feeling so frustrated with his life. LMAO  Cheesy
1127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: September 14, 2023, 11:30:45 PM
Ittihad is in first place for now, with one more victory and a match advantage. Although the opponent Akhdoud was not a challenging opponent, he showed good resistance, especially they used the left wing well, and Godwin tried to create positions from that wing. He was able to go to the goal, but actually Al Akhdoud could not score the goal he wanted. Experienced striker Benzama scored the goal with a nice ball follow-up and a touch with his knee, giving his team an important victory. The Saudi league did not attract attention when there was only Ronaldo, but now that there are other quality players, good matches attract my attention this season.

Yeah, we predicted previously that Al-Ittihad will definitely be aiming for 3 points to take over the standings, Al-Ittihad managed to secure this match but overall their game was not impressive even though we expected there would be more goals unfortunately only one goal. Surprisingly Al-Akhdoud was able to put pressure on Al-Ittihad defense with 8 shots and 4 on target almost the same statistics as Al-Ittihad 10 shots 5 on target.

Akhdoud has almost same stats as Al-Ittihad but that club only lack of ball possession. Ittihad was so struggling in scoring against akhdoud but benzeme has been coming as savior for them by scoring the only goal during the match.
Glad i have picked ittihad. Even a club with so many superstars is still struggling to face a garbage club like akhdoud. The performance from any clubs in saudi pro league can't be predicted easily.

Good to see how ittihad gets another three points. This club may become the strongest candidate to win SPL after al hilal.
1128  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 14, 2023, 03:29:25 PM
After the first 4 rounds in Ligue 1, Lyon only had 1 draw and lost 3 matches, temporarily ranked bottom of the table. Although he is considered a legend of French football, having led Les Bleus and achieved much success in Ligue 1, coach Laurent Blanc could not stay in Lyon even though the season had just begun. Lyon's management lost patience and fired him.
It's caused by blanc has been making lyon stay at the bottom of the table. The director is now willing to gamble with it. The club was trying to take action as soon as possible toward blanc. Sacked him has become one of the best choice taken by Lyon.
The new coach is also having a chance to bring the club to be better but the thing saddened me if lyon was hiring non professional coach to handle the club.
The new coach is still lack of experience in managing the big club. I thought that if lyon could hire someone who has capability in managing the club.

Many reports say that Fabio Grosso will be the new coach of Lyon. The agreements have been completed, Lyon is only waiting for the paperwork to be completed.
Lyon will be announces him as soon as possible. You may able to see him to be posted by lyon's twitter account in upcoming days.
The director is hoping him to bring lyon to the top again.
1129  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 14, 2023, 02:07:41 PM
I think that Osimhen could also go to a top club where he is guaranteed to play in the Champions League. Chelsea has now tried so many things and they are once again screwing up the beginning of the season. These results they have had so far really suggest that they will once again muss the Champions League qualification. I think that is the competition every top player wants to play and for now it doesn't look like Chelsea could make it into the top 4. Maybe they won't even end up in the top 7 again.
Osimhen will always be able to play in UCL once he keep stays in napoli even longer. Why does he need to go to the chelsea? Chelsea is a horrible club now and this club is bullshit. Todd boehly has been destroying it with his hand. Chelsea was not a dream team anymore.
Pochettino was not able in bringing back the best performance from chelsea. This coach keeps hire more and more young players which have no experience in playing on EPL. It will be a blunder for osimhen if he will leave napoli to join in chelsea.
Chelsea is still struggling right now and it may not able to stay at the midtable at the end of this season. It's impossible for chelsea to be a good destination for osimhen.
Napoli has also mentioned it many times if he was not for sale. Top 4 was too good to be true for chelsea. The club needs to put top 10 as its first target.
1130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 14, 2023, 01:52:35 PM
I have no complaints about Real Madrid's defense and midfield. Real Madrid's defense is quite stable. And I would say Madrid's midfield is the best midfield in La Liga. Real Madrid's midfield has experienced and talented players like Toni Kroos, Bellingham, Luka Modrich and Tchouameni. However, I would say that Madrid's attack is quite weak. There are no experienced players in the attack. Vini and Rodrygo are still young. How Joselu will play with Madrid is yet to be determined. It is difficult to dominate the Champions League and La Liga with such an attack.
No doubt with Real Madrid have solid and best composition in midfielder but still get weakness with attacking line position actually after Karim Benzema departure to Al Ittihad, Joselu still not impressive well in La Liga although he has quit well performance with Spain national teams in last EURO Qualifier matches. In midfielder, Carlo Ancelotti have many option not only impressive performance with Jude Bellingham but also experience player like Luka Modric and Toni Kroos still in the top performance. If can signing Mbappe in next season, not doubt with Real Madrid are completed squad because dominance by young and experienced player can motivate for young keep on the top performance, in La Liga Real Madrid still manage top standing position after winning 4 of 4 matches.
Some great midfielders of madrid are too old for now. The club doesn't have reliable midfielders other than modric and kross at this moment. Bellingham played as attacking midfielder. I can't even expect a lot from him at this moment.
Madrid will be trying to get mbappe only if he will be leaving from PSG as agent. I don't even think that if perez was interesting in acquiring mbappe with a lot of money from PSG.
The club can still use bellingham as urgent striker while his true position was attacking midfielder. Joselu and rodrygo can still help the club in getting full points but im not sure if the current squad is deep enough to face barcelona.
The main problem if madrid can't always rely on bellingham in helping the club to win the game. I can't imagine if bellingham will face injury like vini.
1131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 13, 2023, 09:40:23 PM
The time when PSG tried to get rid of Marco Verratti and this palyer left the team, I was expecting to see better destinations for Marco Verratti, in the worst case I was hoping to see him in Saudi teams because of the more money they usually offer and other more paly who joined this league during this summer.
But instead, he joined the Al Arabi team in the Qatar League.

Glad to see him is moving to the qatar after he had been getting so many protests from PSG fans. Verratti was making the right decision by moving there caused by his mentality will be destroyed if he will still stay in PSG caused by how toxic PSG fans are.
I hope that he will able to play freely without a lot of pressure toward him. It's good he is now completing his transfer.
1132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Sybil and how it affects your Retroactive airdrop chances on: September 13, 2023, 04:48:39 PM
Sybil is more related to your addresses and wallets use for on chain transactions. One wallet can have many addresses and if you use many addresses in a same wallet for your retroactive airdrop, it can affect your chance to be eligible for claiming airdrop reward from the team distribution.
There would be special pattern to detect it. Any blockchain analyzation has different patterns in detecting the sybil attack. I remember when someone posted if he has detected someone who owned more than 21k wallet used for zksync retro.
How can we identify person to person transcation as a sybil attack? It's caused by the main purpose of blockchain is to sending your money to others.

This is why specific criterias are needed in determining the sybil attack.

IP address does not make sense.
That's true.
1133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can money be saved in gambling sites? on: September 13, 2023, 04:41:15 PM
this thread reminds of me of what happened to Stake recently where they just got hacked. not sure if the coins of the users were also compromised but hopefully not after all Stake is very rich and can refund all.
Stake's hacked case was not affecting its users as explained by eddie if stake stored most of its fund on its cold storage. That's probably only a few percents of funds stored in the hot wallet of stake. The hacker was so crazy right now.



The hacker is now attacking exchange site. The amounts stolen from coinex goes to the same wallet used by the same hacker.
but what happens if it weren't stake.com?
Probably, bankrupt?

if it was just a casino that isn't very well known and only a few thousand in their budget for refunds then you lost your coins as if you are scammed.
Since that casino has no funds to recover its service and reimburse its users. People's money will be gone forever. Storing money in casino for long time is bad thing.
1134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: September 13, 2023, 04:27:51 PM
Al Akhdoud vs Al-Ittihad match is going to start tomorrow in Saudi Professional League. I am waiting to see the match between these two teams. I want to bet in support of Al-Ittihad team in this match. Al-Ittihad is now at number 3 in the points table.  Al Akhdoud is in the number 13 position for which Al-Ittihad team has a high chance of winning this match. However, if the players of Al Akhdoud team can perform well in this match, then this match is likely to be a draw. But starting from the goalkeeper of Al-Ittihad team, the rest  All the players performed very well for which Al-Ittihad team is so strong.

The match against akhdoud probably become ez points for ittihad. I will take ittihad for this match. Akhdoud was winning in the last game against al riyadh which is as bad as al akhdoud. Ittihad is far superior compared to akhdoud.
Akhdoud needs to be lucky enough during the game to win against ittihad. Ittihad will not be missing an opportunity to seize three points from akhdoud.

Win for ittihad. The thing that is still confusing to me is whether ittihad will be clean sheet against akhdoud or not. I think that akhdoud was easy opponent but im not sure if BTTS will happen.
I may take the risk to pick BTTS but this is pure gambling for me. Im not feeling fine with it but my adrenaline suggests me to take it. lol.

I hope that over 2.5 will be reached
1135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 13, 2023, 04:02:08 PM
De Gea is a good enough goalkeeper I know that. He is experienced. But Onana is not a bad goalkeeper. And the decision to add Onana was the right one. Onana may not be as experienced as De Gea. Even so, Onana's performance is not worse than De Gea's. Manchester United conceded 7 goals in 4 matches. Onana is not the only one to blame for this. Manchester United have tactical weaknesses. At the same time, the weakness of their defense has been very well visible in every match. Ten Hag should deal with Manchester United's defence. If the defense is not strong, this team cannot stay on top of the points table.
There's alot to handle in Old Trafford, Erik Ten Hag working on that and hopes to fixed these issues in immediate time given. Manchester United will improved with time, the coach have the best players to handle, all what they needs is just time to progress and adapt. Erik Ten Hag made the right decision when he signed Andre Onana from Inter Milan. He's the first choice of united and have made both crucial saves and blunders in league games, perhaps the Red Devils are having challenging moments and weaknesses are open to their opponents. 
I never saw manchester united has been making significant improvement. am i missing something or what? There was no a lot of changes happened in the defensive lines of manchester united which has always been the main weakness from the club.
Ten hag has been making some good and bad decisions regarding the player transfer. I don't wanna praise him so much caused by manchester united is still rarely achieving something big with him.

Ten hag's stat in united was not so impressive and i think that guy was overrated. Ten hag didn't even try to strengthening its defense. Manchester united is very often lost in the game due to the blunders by its player.

I think that ten hag needs to put all of its focus into the manchester united's defense next transfer window.
1136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: creating a token without money on: September 13, 2023, 01:50:37 AM
hello, is it possible to create a token and make it very famous without capital?

Did you mean even without some pennies? It's not possible mate. Making token needs money as it's the main requirement. How can you try to issue your contract without even paying the gas fees?
If you don't have money and never think to create your own token. You need gas to make your own token and it requires money.

You will never ever able to issue your own token without money. What about marketing, liquidty, etc?
If you are willing to issue your own token to be sold for money and then forgot it. People will mark you as scammer. You said that you wanna make your token become famous and money is actually needed in this case.

Stop dreaming to create famous token without money. It will never possible this time.
1137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 13, 2023, 01:32:52 AM
Mbappe has finally decided he wants to join Madrid so by the end of the season (Next summer) the deal will be finalized. I can’t wait to see him in Madrid shirts.

Kylian Mbappe is a prominent player for PSG, always present to deliver the club interms of crucial times, however he has made moves to exits the club but the president, Nasser Al-Khelaifi keeps on bringing gigantic bids to changed his mind, but with current situation on ground, PSG will lose Mbappe as a free agent next summer because he decides no contract renewal and ready to push for his dreams. Kylian Mbappe made it clearly publicly, he's has no intentions of extending his contract with Paris Saint-Germain, he only wants a possible exits from Parc des Princes stadium. He's been in the club for years and he think it's high time he moved out and rewrite a new chapter of his career.  


Mbappe took the right steps he has been with PSG for 5 years but has yet to win an international title, as a star player of course he needs achievements to put his name in history and Real Madrid is the right club. The latest news is that Madrid has prepared 200+ million for a pre-contract agreement in January next year, this 200 million package includes salary + transfer fee and PSG cannot refuse because they risk losing Mbappe for free. I estimate the transfer fee will reach 100 million and clearly this is under market value.

100 million dollars is a lot of money for a football player who is 6 months away from release. You said it was below the transfer fee, but that's how it should be. A football player who will be released after 6 months cannot be paid his normal value anywhere in the world. I think PSG will of course not reject this offer. Real Madrid, on the other hand, will have strengthened its squad in the interim period.

100 millions was nothing for PSG. The club demands 250m for mbappe. PSG is just willing to get the money that already invested on him back again. The future of mbappe is not yet clear at this moment.
Many sources said if mbappe would be extending his contract but nothing happen right now. Mbappe - real madrid become hottest topic again for now.

Seeing some reporter posted that if real madrid was preparing some money to acquire mbappe from psg but in another source said that if real madrid is still willing to get him for free.
Mbappe transfer saga is the most complicated transfer that i have ever seen.

I remember that messi and ronaldo transfer saga were not so complicated as mbappe transfer saga. It's hard to predict what thing aimed by mbappe by making many things become complicated like this time.
Khelaifi statement last weeks made everything become uncertain.

It's not valued in dollar but euro
1138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 13, 2023, 01:20:16 AM
Everton have been performing poorly for a few years. This year, they could only collect 1 point in 4 matches. I don't think they will get 3 points against Arsenal, I don't even think they will get a draw. It would be an absolute win for Arsenal. Arsenal will be one of the leading teams in the race for leadership in the Premier League this year. I hope they perform better than last year.
Im feeling so skeptical toward everton this time. I must be honest if everton was lucky enough last year caused by it was not being relegated but there is no change happening in the club. Everton keeps show horrible performances as it was only getting 1 points from a few matches. I don't even think everton can survive this season from being relegated if the club still played like shit. Everton is always showing shitty performance which is annoying for all of its fans.
Everton needs a miracle to get 1 point against arsenal. Arsenal is far superior compared with everton this time. Everton will always on the battle for relegation zone.
I don't think this club can manage to enter into the midtable at the middle of season if it keep shows horrible performance like that. Im putting all in arsenal.
1139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Problems of Algorithmic Stable Coin on: September 12, 2023, 04:52:52 PM
I am researching about the risks and problems of algorithmic stablecoins. As I know, it controls the supply without the need for reserves.  Is it possible to develop a new algorithm to handle this problem(Depeg) and create a new algorithmic stable coin?
It's not even possible to handle depeg without being backed by stable collateral asset like fiat money. You can take Terra luna as an example about how the pressure towards LUNA has been also destroyed its UST stable token as well caused by the algo could not get too much selling pressure. How can you handle the volatility in your token if it's being used as a stabilization for your algorithmic stable token? Used fiat money to back the stable token is the best way.
The algorithmic token has no stability as it peg on the volatile asset which can go up and down easily. It's impossible to create risk-free algorithmic stable token.
The algorithmic stable token will never work.
1140  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 12, 2023, 04:44:30 PM
Paul Pogba is threatened with being suspended from playing football. This is because Pogba has tested positive for using doping. This case is still in the process of further investigation, for his suspension, Pogba maybe face suspension of between 1 - 4 years. If Pogba being suspended for more than 1 year, I think Juventus can cancel or termintae the contract with Pogba. I don't know whether this is an advantage for Juventus or the opposite. Rarely plays due to injury, now potentially got suspension. Juventus is suffering from bringing in Pogba again.
Pogba is one of the greatest playmakers in the world. I was very surprised when I heard this news. Will his fate be the same as Balotelli, who disappeared from the ranks of the best strikers in the world? But I think Pogba is a good person. I've never heard of Pogba going to a nightclub or having fun with girls. I remember their extraordinary performance at the 2018 World Cup and it was one of the best games a Playmaker could show.
Forgot him. Pogba has destroyed his own achievements in the football. There's nothing he can do except leaving from juventus this time. Pogba was not as good as you said above. You just don't know his real life.
It's not my first time to see him faces serious problem during his career. This doping case is definitely ended his career as a professional footballer. He will be banned and juventus will depart him from the club.
Complete punishment for him.
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