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1  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ☁ MineThatCloud ☁ SHA-256 - 0.00087 BTC/GHs ☁ Cloud Mining Service ☁ on: January 19, 2015, 12:38:39 AM
Unlocked ?

Hi,

Yes, Quite a few customers have emailed us asking us to unlock it.

customer is always right Smiley
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 19, 2015, 12:28:15 AM
No i don't need to,, I've mentioned it thats enough...

Then you're lying. I'm not. My offer still stands, but it won't stand forever. MineThatCloud is online, but hasn't responded. Very telling.

And also just a quick question, what (in percent) would you say your risk is placing it into an escrow?

Both sides are publicly verifiable, so there's very little risk to each side. There are several trusted escrow agents that would be able to determine fairly if the contract was completed.

There are risks to my side, but I won't describe them at this time as that would put me at a disadvantage. I'd like this to be a fair negotiation.

Now answer my question. Is my offer fair or not?


As a final post in this thread. I'm not going to reply any more because this thread is getting "silly and childish"

I would just like to say to everyone who trusts our service that some people cant lose arguments and always come up with petty remarks and statements as posted above. Syke doesnt like the fact we are a legitimate cloud mining service, His original stance was that we are a scam, he knows we are not but his pride wont let him back down, so now he makes silly statments, like this "offer" he is proposing and attacks our website, very immature.

Please come up with some proof of us not paying out, not doing exactly what we described in our original thread. We are a cloud mining service here to help people not to scam people, We are paying out, we have paid our affiliate scheme members, we have not failed any payments.

You have already done enough damage with your DDoS attack, Please leave us alone as your are hurting the customers that have bought contracts from us.

MineThatCloud Support
3  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ☁ MineThatCloud ☁ SHA-256 - 0.00087 BTC/GHs ☁ Cloud Mining Service ☁ on: January 18, 2015, 10:57:29 PM

Hi All

Promotion now on! Come get 1000 GH/s!

1000 GH/s
0.87000000 BTC
0.01402000 BTC/day

Yes! thats 0.01402000 BTC/day for 1 Year. That is 5.11730000 BTC!

4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 18, 2015, 05:58:32 PM
WHAT? You never offered a mBTC to this service and im sure people wont trust that rubbish since you hate this service so much.

Here is a complete unedited copy of the deleted message. Feel free to ask the moderators if it is true:

Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

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We have answered your questions, just because you may not be happy with the answer doesnt give you right to try and put our user base off.

Your "We won't answer that" is not an answer. There are numerous ways you can prove you have the hashrate. You have provided none of them. I can only conclude you do not have any actual mining equipment.

See above and as for business entity, If you read our FAQ you will realise that a business doesnt own our service, but a private investor does.

Ok, who is it? I need to know who to file the lawsuit against when you default on the contracts.

To provide a service to customers we do not have any "law" that states we need to open a business to do so. We can provide as is.

What country's laws do you operate under? Most countries require business licenses to operate a business. You are operating a business.

If you are not happy with the service for some reason why not join up and we can prove we are legitimate via you getting a ROI and more over the course of the next year?

Ok, I will place 100 BTC in escrow. In one year, if you are still paying out as promised, then I will release the escrow to you. Deal?

Did you not know we get copies of the deleted messages? Caught you in another lie.

That not offering investment in the service, our point is proved.

I notice you didnt defend yourself about the DDoS, You must be proud of taking down a legitimate service.

5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 18, 2015, 05:49:34 PM
Well that sheds a light on a lot just looked at sykes trust rating.. Syke who was belittling you guys and saying how stupid i am to support you and invest in you.. And according to himself he has invested 100btc in you...

Sorry syke but the validity of your comments and posts has just been shattered, You are either lying on here and simply trolling, or you are lying about investing in the company. Either of which is not acceptable

I offered them 100 btc, but they deleted the message. If you read the trust system, you'll see "Risked BTC amount is money that the person could have stolen", which is true. Fortunately, I protected myself by proposing escrow, so their attempts at stealing my money failed. My trust rating for them is accurate. I'm sorry if they succeeding in stealing your money.

WHAT? You never offered a mBTC to this service and im sure people wont trust that rubbish since you hate this service so much.

You on the other hand taking our site down for 8 hours HAVE lost us money, about 4 BTC in projections. That is FACT not made up rubbish that you are spreading. How do you explain that? You are the criminal here, not us.

An out of date Joomla backend on this site with no xss/brute force protection, and a default SMF install for the forum, with one of the worst smf->joomla bridges I have ever seen. It will only be a matter of time before they get 'hacked' and everything disappears.

Potential investors have been warned.

Is that another threat? Please leave our site alone, It is nothing to do with you. You are hurting our customers by doing this, not hurting us directly.

Incorrect information.

We have the latest Joomla downloadable from their site. this was updated 2 days ago. Maybe you should contact joomla about their latest version not being the latest version, obviously you have developed a newer version?

All installs are default surely, Just because we are using that theme does not make it default. We used that theme so people who were used to this forum would feel at home there.

One of the worst smf->joomla bridges? We havnt installed any smf->joomla bridge, this will all be coded manually by our developer. THERE IS NO JOOMA BRIDGE. WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT?

once again, another stupid nonsense remark with assumptions and no justification,

Also, We would still like a response this to nonsense. the fact that you say "no xss/brute force protection" means you must have tested this out. Please show your findings for us all to see.
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 18, 2015, 05:13:26 PM
An out of date Joomla backend on this site with no xss/brute force protection, and a default SMF install for the forum, with one of the worst smf->joomla bridges I have ever seen. It will only be a matter of time before they get 'hacked' and everything disappears.

Potential investors have been warned.

Is that another threat? Please leave our site alone, It is nothing to do with you. You are hurting our customers by doing this, not hurting us directly.

Incorrect information.

We have the latest Joomla downloadable from their site. this was updated 2 days ago. Maybe you should contact joomla about their latest version not being the latest version, obviously you have developed a newer version?

All installs are default surely, Just because we are using that theme does not make it default. We used that theme so people who were used to this forum would feel at home there.

One of the worst smf->joomla bridges? We havnt installed any smf->joomla bridge, this will all be coded manually by our developer. THERE IS NO JOOMA BRIDGE. WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT?

once again, another stupid nonsense remark with assumptions and no justification,
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 18, 2015, 02:58:53 PM


Its funny all the people who have slagged us off are complete idiots


Said BOSS of cloud mining operation. Never heard legit business slag of their customers and who knows maybe future customers. GREAT PR

Re-read the sentence, I dont think you understand. We dont want any of you who slag us off to be our customers...Once again the only thing you can do to try and hinder our service is "try and put words in our mouth", None of you have any proof. all speculation that is incorrect.

Who are the morons giving their money to a "company" that not just hasn't provided any proof of legitimacy, but actually flat out refuses to do so? It's not the people that ask for proof of legitimacy and get to keep their bitcoins, that's for sure.

Please dont attack our customers.


You dont condone our actions even though we have done nothing wrong nor will do... but you all condone this behaviour? http://www.minethatcloud.com/index.php/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28

And wow you are all suddently going to withdraw and claim innocence.

Well that sheds a light on a lot just looked at sykes trust rating.. Syke who was belittling you guys and saying how stupid i am to support you and invest in you.. And according to himself he has invested 100btc in you...

Sorry syke but the validity of your comments and posts has just been shattered, You are either lying on here and simply trolling, or you are lying about investing in the company. Either of which is not acceptable

Yep, He is not just the only one.



complete abuse of trust system, Shows how stupid these guys are.
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 18, 2015, 01:57:00 PM


Its funny all the people who have slagged us off are complete idiots


Said BOSS of cloud mining operation. Never heard legit business slag of their customers and who knows maybe future customers. GREAT PR

Re-read the sentence, I dont think you understand. We dont want any of you who slag us off to be our customers...Once again the only thing you can do to try and hinder our service is "try and put words in our mouth", None of you have any proof. all speculation that is incorrect.

Who are the morons giving their money to a "company" that not just hasn't provided any proof of legitimacy, but actually flat out refuses to do so? It's not the people that ask for proof of legitimacy and get to keep their bitcoins, that's for sure.

Please dont attack our customers.


You dont condone our actions even though we have done nothing wrong nor will do... but you all condone this behaviour? http://www.minethatcloud.com/index.php/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28

And wow you are all suddently going to withdraw and claim innocence.
9  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 18, 2015, 01:33:23 PM
Hooray, Congrats on your work.

You could have just scared away a good service and if you are correct and it is a scam, They can now scam people in their own environment.

You have possible made them more BTC Roll Eyes

Give me a break. Without bitcointalk they're a scam without victims. Just how I like it.

LOL, We are not leaving bitcointalk, this website IS NOT the bitcoin community, We just opened our Forum http://www.minethatcloud.com/forum/ which was the plan all along.


 
What is so wrong with being from Nigeria? Why are you using that sentence as if its a bad thing? Being Racist There? I think so.


funny how quick you accusing about things u dont understand. how its possible being racist using country of residence?

Maybe its just me but every time someone mentioning Nigeria when money or goods are involved and always little DING in my head makes me think about SCAM

I wasnt the one being racist.

Give me a break. Without bitcointalk they're a scam without victims. Just how I like it.

Yes, good riddance to bad rubbish.

I am afrad how many people invested there. Anybody know estimate amount of Bitcoins they received?

They were shut down pretty quickly so not much I'd guess.

You think you even slightly have the power to SHUT A SERVICE DOWN? LOL your laughable. We are here for good whether you like it or not

Its funny all the people who have slagged us off are complete idiots
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 18, 2015, 03:08:23 AM
There are no specific laws or regulations regarding Bitcoin in Belgium.

The Belgian Finance Minister, in response to a question by a Belgian senator, stated in July 2013 that while the Bitcoin system seems to be somewhat problematic as a potential tool for money laundering and other illegal activities, such problems should not be overstated.  He also stated that, based on studies from the Belgian central bank (Banque nationale de Belgique) and the European Central Bank, the bitcoin does not present any significant risks to price stability, to the financial system in general, or to its individual users.  Finally, in this same statement, the Minister of Finance indicated that government intervention with regard to the Bitcoin system does not appear necessary at the present time.

So you're saying that you can steal people bitcoins because it's not illegal in Belgium. I'll let people know that's your plan.


err... can you read my post again?

i'm saying you reporting me as a support engineer for stealing when we havnt wont get you anywhere. really. Because WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG... get that into your thick idiot brain. JESUS. Unbelievable stupid person.

Also... Thanks for the email we recieved on the website. I dont actually believe you are capable of carrying out a DDoS though... you need to be semi intelligent to even be able to. We are using DDoS protection now anyway, So you wont be able to do it again.
11  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 18, 2015, 02:46:25 AM
hah, report me for what? working as a support engineer for a legitimate service, are you so stupid not to realise, we have done nothing illegal or wrong nor will we.

For running a Ponzi scam. We'll let the police decide.

you are rediculously stupid its quite unbelievable, now be quiet, do your homework and go to bed, grown ups are talking on this thread. Well I am anyway.

I dont have any old addresses from 2009, I personally started in 2010. but even so I only have addresses from the past year.

"rediculously stupid"? LOL. If you're going to try to insult someone's intelligence, at least spell it correctly.

I'm asking about whoever was making the 2009 claim. Prove it or you're a liar.

LOL you think the local police would be interested in something that MIGHT be, on the INTERNET with NO proof dealing in BITCOIN only someone who says so? More fool you. they would most likely charge you for time wasting.

a statment from http://www.loc.gov/law/help/bitcoin-survey/#belgium
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There are no specific laws or regulations regarding Bitcoin in Belgium.

The Belgian Finance Minister, in response to a question by a Belgian senator, stated in July 2013 that while the Bitcoin system seems to be somewhat problematic as a potential tool for money laundering and other illegal activities, such problems should not be overstated.  He also stated that, based on studies from the Belgian central bank (Banque nationale de Belgique) and the European Central Bank, the bitcoin does not present any significant risks to price stability, to the financial system in general, or to its individual users.  Finally, in this same statement, the Minister of Finance indicated that government intervention with regard to the Bitcoin system does not appear necessary at the present time.

and English is not my first language.

We dont have to prove nothing to you. Prove your not an idiot... oh wait you cant...  Roll Eyes

I think I will stop here anyway, You guys are obviously jealous that we are running a legitimate service and making money from it, you wouldnt be trolling this hard otherwise

Yes, go back to your self-moderated thread where you can hide behind deleted posts. We'll continue to expose your lies here and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

We havnt told any lies, we just refuse to provide evidence to you trolls. There is a difference idiot.
12  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 18, 2015, 02:26:27 AM
If you were innocent and people were claiming you was not, would you plead your innocence?

Normally when people are accused of running a scam they simply respond with evidence that suggests they are not.

When scammers are accused of running a scam they like to smooth talk their way out of answering simple questions (or just ignore them), attack the people asking questions, and scream "We're not a scam." over and over hoping it eventually sticks.

Attack the people.... sorry are you not the one that constantly attacks, trolls and harrases us? I think so or you wouldnt be posting right now would you?

Well there are 3 of us now and another one of the support staff will be using this account in 4 or so hours, We are from different countries. Personally I am from Belgium and well our private investor....oh PRIVATE investor.. yeah well his information believe it or not.. is Private.  Roll Eyes

Which town in Belgium? I need to contact your police to report you. Feel free to PM me the information.

When your "private investor" runs with the funds the police won't be able to catch the thief because he's from an unknown country. How convenient for you.

Let's continue with more MineThatCloud lies.

http://www.minethatcloud.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16

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We have a great deal of experience with Bitcoin mining hardware since 2009

Prove it. Sign an address that was generated in 2009. Or at least post from a bitcointalk account that was registered in 2009.

hah, report me for what? working as a support engineer for a legitimate service, are you so stupid not to realise, we have done nothing illegal or wrong nor will we.

you are rediculously stupid its quite unbelievable, now be quiet, do your homework and go to bed, grown ups are talking on this thread. Well I am anyway.

I dont have any old addresses from 2009, I personally started in 2010. but even so I only have addresses from the past year.

I think I will stop here anyway, You guys are obviously jealous that we are running a legitimate service and making money from it, you wouldnt be trolling this hard otherwise

13  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 18, 2015, 01:58:45 AM
Well I know you wont understand but the world is not centered around "United States law" as much as you would like to think so.

Fortunately that's the only law that applies to me. Good luck suing us from Nigeria.

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Now stop whining and obessing over our service (Yes you are, considering your posting 10+ posts about it a day)

Just checked my post history and I've made a grand total of 6 posts relating to your ponzi.

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I hate starbucks coffee for their tax evasion, doesnt mean I troll them my entire day. go get a life.

Keep quacking.

Fortunatly? Fortunatly you live in a country that is so over governed that you cant take a piss without the government knowing? Right.
 
What is so wrong with being from Nigeria? Why are you using that sentence as if its a bad thing? Being Racist There? I think so.

6 Posts and the 40+ I have deleted right?

It's because tons of scammers are from Nigeria.

Stop trying to say you're not a ponzi because you are a ponzi!


We are not a ponzi service. we will keep mentioning that because were not. If you were innocent and people were claiming you was not, would you plead your innocence?

tons of scammers are also from the US and Canada, in fact... was Charles Ponzi not based in the US and Canada?

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Charles Ponzi, was an Italian businessman and con artist in the U.S. and Canada

Wink

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It's because tons of scammers are from Nigeria.

I am finding this quote remarkably racist.

Well I know you wont understand but the world is not centered around "United States law" as much as you would like to think so.

Speaking of foreign countries, why don't you tell us which country you and your "private investor" are from so that we can sue you when you default on your contracts?

Well there are 3 of us now and another one of the support staff will be using this account in 4 or so hours, We are from different countries. Personally I am from Belgium and well our private investor....oh PRIVATE investor.. yeah well his information believe it or not.. is Private.  Roll Eyes
14  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Anonymous Bitcoin Exchange on: January 18, 2015, 01:52:30 AM
Read this about the OP

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=166158
15  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 18, 2015, 01:45:08 AM
Well I know you wont understand but the world is not centered around "United States law" as much as you would like to think so.

Fortunately that's the only law that applies to me. Good luck suing us from Nigeria.

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Now stop whining and obessing over our service (Yes you are, considering your posting 10+ posts about it a day)

Just checked my post history and I've made a grand total of 6 posts relating to your ponzi.

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I hate starbucks coffee for their tax evasion, doesnt mean I troll them my entire day. go get a life.

Keep quacking.

Fortunatly? Fortunatly you live in a country that is so over governed that you cant take a piss without the government knowing? Right.
 
What is so wrong with being from Nigeria? Why are you using that sentence as if its a bad thing? Being Racist There? I think so.

6 Posts and the 40+ I have deleted right?
16  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 18, 2015, 01:02:07 AM
All you seem to be able to do is clutch at straws.

If you google slander, if you know how to use it, Its a search engine.

Slander:

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verb
    1.
        make false and damaging statements about (someone).

Seems you're really the one grasping at straws here.

If you bothered to do some googling, you would know slander is spoken where as libel is written.

And for either to be proven in court you must have proof of actual malice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actual_malice

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Actual malice in United States law is a condition required to establish libel against public officials or public figures and is defined as "knowledge that the information was false" or that it was published "with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not."

How could we possibly know our statements are false when you refuse to provide any evidence of the contrary when we asked?

How can you get upset that we called you a duck when you made yourself look like a duck and are quacking like a duck?

Well I know you wont understand but the world is not centered around "United States law" as much as you would like to think so.

Now stop whining and obessing over our service (Yes you are, considering your posting 10+ posts about it a day)

I hate starbucks coffee for their tax evasion, doesnt mean I troll them my entire day. go get a life.
17  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 18, 2015, 12:46:54 AM
Its people like you that ruin this community by slandering legit services.

Its people like you that ruin this community. We are a legit cloud mining company.

Coincidence?

What is that even meant to mean?

We are in direct competition with thmining, what is the coincidence?

That, or you're the same guy setting up a new ponzi every week. (I sort of doubt it considering how halfassed your latest one is)

BTW I don't think you understand what slander/libel actually is.

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There are several ways a person must go about proving that libel has taken place. For example, in the United States, the person must prove that the statement was false, caused harm, and was made without adequate research into the truthfulness of the statement.

Anyone who has done adequate research would be led to believe your "cloudmining company" is just another cookie cutter cloudmining ponzi.


All you seem to be able to do is clutch at straws.

If you google slander, if you know how to use it, Its a search engine.

Slander:

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verb
    1.
        make false and damaging statements about (someone).
18  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 17, 2015, 11:25:38 PM
Its people like you that ruin this community by slandering legit services.

Its people like you that ruin this community. We are a legit cloud mining company.

Coincidence?

What is that even meant to mean?

We are in direct competition with thmining, what is the coincidence?
19  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ☁ MineThatCloud ☁ SHA-256 - 0.00087 BTC/GHs ☁ Cloud Mining Service ☁ on: January 17, 2015, 10:12:43 PM
payment received as usual
thank you.

No Problem Smiley
20  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that MineThatCloud is a Ponzi on: January 17, 2015, 07:49:06 PM
(Ok I will have to do a suicidal face palm if I am wrong and they end up being a scam and will apologise to each person individually that I doubted, but yeah i'm gonna
trust them for now, more fool me you might say)

Quoted for posterity. I am 100% sure you will not receive full payouts for 1 year.

I've shown that by using the absolute best numbers possible, they're paying out $1000 for every $500 they bring in. It's not possible for them to stay in business. They will fold before you finish your contract.

You bought mining hashpower. You have never received a mined bitcoin from them. You received some of your own bitcoins back. You invested in a ponzi.

Those of us who've been in bitcoin for years have seen this happen time and time again. You will learn the hard way. For your sake I just hope your lesson wasn't too expensive. Unfortunately by feeding these scams you are enabling further scams. And that's bad for the bitcoin community. I hope you apologize profusely when you lose.

Quoted for posterity. we will like to return to this thread in a year and then you can appologise.

and actually its people like you that ruin this community by slandering legit services, people like you are why people are afraid to use bitcoin.

You profile claims you are a legendary member, more like a legendary idiot.
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