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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Erik Voorhees favors NXT on: February 20, 2015, 12:05:21 AM
But does he like how the NXT initially was distributed?



Are you okay with people in 2010 buying BTC for cents? I know you are, so what's your problem? Roll Eyes

Same early adopter principle. Those who found out about NXT earlier were rewarded. Just like BTC.

Not really, in BTC early days, no one knew cryptocurrency would work.

Also, NXT distribution is beyond insane, even today, 15 people hold 80% of all NXT. Bitcoin distribution today is much more fair.

BULLSHIT!

Prove it or walk.  Nxtblocks.info says you're completely full of shit.

https://nxtblocks.info/#section/blockexplorer_distribution

He was only off by an order of magnitude, as nxtblock.info tells us, 76% of the nxt is held by 144 different accounts.

On top of this there are at least 20 of these accounts which are owned by many different people, like SuperNet, Nxt community funds stash, or Exchanges like Bter.
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT WILL PREVAIL! on: February 19, 2015, 01:56:26 AM
Two things: So far, hands down, the best platform there is. No question about it. And support, ALREADY, of an enormous array of assets.

Second thing: Some 70 people own the lot of it. Any one or two of them cashing in, would sink the whole project and render it almost worthless.

That's why the price is 4k instead of 400k.

1. I agree, its pretty wonderful,

2. This isn't a valid argument anymore, only 1 of the 29 or so large whales has 5% of the stake and hasn't sold, all the rest have sold at least parts if not all of their nxt. There are around 50'000 accounts with positive balances on nxt. At this point, nxt can handle any account dumping all of its nxt and still be working fine.
43  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6 confirmations is not enough on: February 13, 2015, 07:11:21 AM
Because the have an investment directly to the success of bitcoin, (if transactions are double spent, bitcoin becomes less valuable and asic miners become junk) they will follow the honest road and not try to rewrite the history.

We just need a few altcoins with SHA256 mining algo to solve this issue.

If the alt coins were able to pick up the slack from all the asics and be profitable enough for miners to take the bribe on bitcoin, then yes, there is a problem there.

Bitcoins core security relies on the fact that mining hardware can pretty much only be used for bitcoin, if anyone can think of a good use for trillions of sha256 hashes, then bitcoins security would go down greatly.

Seems weird that bitcoins security relies on buying miners that only work for bitcoin, PoS just simplifies the process from a mining device investment to an investment in the currency itself, but that's a little off topic
44  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 6 confirmations is not enough on: February 13, 2015, 01:30:00 AM
In the early days of bitcoin an attack like this would have been trivial. CPU and gpu miners have nothing to lose if bitcoin goes under so they would be happy to pick up a bribery.

Because of asics on the market, people now need special hardware in order to mine bitcoin. Because the have an investment directly to the success of bitcoin, (if transactions are double spent, bitcoin becomes less valuable and asic miners become junk) they will follow the honest road and not try to rewrite the history.

So bitcoins increasing centralization is a reason for safety in this situation, oops.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: February 10, 2015, 11:49:21 PM
A simple proof of concept nxt offline blockchainless wallet.

http://jnxt.org/vapor

All the code needed to create sign and broadcast transactions is grouped into a single html file that can be downloaded and used offline.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Screenshot from the future on: February 06, 2015, 02:34:27 PM
Overanalysis:

- the song on the first tab was released right when the banks when south in 2008 which led to the beginning of bitcoin
- song also has some interesting lyrics worth investigation
- Medici tab and supernet newsletter tab open.
-  not sure what the first and last icons are, maybe jinn stuff

47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Screenshot from the future on: February 05, 2015, 11:28:01 PM
Lots of little things to notice on this.

Otherwise it wouldn't be a CfB riddle Cheesy
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why NXT is such at low price if it's that amazing ? :(((((((( on: February 05, 2015, 07:16:38 AM
^
The major difference between Nxt and Bitshares is, that Bitshares is about making money (nothing else) whereas Nxt is about improving the original idea of Bitcoin.
Bitshares is a company, Nxt is a philosophy.

I made my decision (and goddam I can sleep like a baby  Wink )
Both of them have the same intentions but bitshares has a concept which nxt cant emulate which is being able to earn via a consensus protocol via voting. Thus innovation will be alot faster going fwd with bitshares because of incentives to do work and do good. Technically they are equal right now and price showsthat however its all about potential and non priced in development which bitshares will win IMO easily.. this year will be interesting.

Did someone say voting... www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhJgz6hpHXg
Nxt has a voting system on the way.

I really don't quite get the bitshares mentality, so I say that I'm going to do something, then people vote for me and I get free money from the system.
At nxt you would just create something and then people will send you donations if they think its worth developing further, or the person can start an asset and sell it to make any money that they would need.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Interesting consensus idea on: February 04, 2015, 05:13:39 AM
This seems familiar...




  Cheesy

Haha, for some reason it does..
50  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What should I build for my next Hackathon? on: February 04, 2015, 04:43:13 AM
Still dont have an open source idea that I can work on.

I have some ideas at jnxt.org, I write for nxt but some could be useful on bitcoin. Something like network visualization, transaction notification, or something else.
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: January 24, 2015, 03:58:41 AM
The current options for ltbcoin on the nxt network: (my email to the ltb team)

Hello all,

I am a developer in the nxt space and have been asked to help out with coordinating what can be done with this.

I've looked around at tokenly and gotten the basics of what it does. I believe nxt could assist in a few places here.

An asset vending machine system shouldn't be too difficult to implement inside nxt. Because of how nxt is set up, we are able to build and send transactions without even needing to run a node on the server. A system could be made to create and sign transaction bytes within PHP without an nxt node running. The transaction can send any type of asset, MS token, nxt, or message that's needed.

Also in the way of tokens, I suggest the Monetary System for setting up a token system. I am aware that LTB coin currently uses counterparty as its platform, but should you decide to switch over, you create an MS currency, then map the nxt addresses to throwaway couterparty addresses. The user would generate their own nxt address, then input the address into a page, the page would then calculate a burn address that matches the nxt address inputted, then the page can do a check on what amounts of LTB are in what burn addresses and credit the nxt accounts the same amount.

Another useful nxt feature to use with this would be the token. Nxt Tokens are small strings of characters that can be used to prove the ownership of an account. Say that you want to allow a user into a certain page only if they have x amount of LTB, then you would tell them to generate a token for the pages name "letstalkbitcoin.com" and the wallet will print out 160 characters that have a signature of the account used as well as a timestamp. Then the user enters their token and it is decoded to tell you the account of the user and the time it was created, after that you can make an api request to check the balance and let the user in if it greater than x.

Another possibility is integrating the LTB blogging pages with nxt aliases. Nxt aliases act as a DNS system on top of the blockchain, with them we can store up to 1000 bytes of data that directly refers to a unique string of characters. My idea is that each blog post would have a unique alias associated with it, the alias could hold link information, author data, as well as a sha256 hash of the content of the blog post, so that paranoid people could verify that the text they are reading is untampered with. This also has a timestamp system, because of the time that the alias enters the blockchain with the hash, it can be cryptographically proven that the blog post existed at a specific time. This can be used to settle any disputes that may arise.

On top of that, the way the nxt client is created makes it quite extensible, because it runs on a Javascript layer on top of Java API requests, anyone is able to modify a client to fit their needs. Its possible to make a LTB version of the nxt client that can easily show LTB MS balances and token creation, as well as load asynchronously with the LTB website, so blog posts could be read and tipped from inside a wallet
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Interesting consensus idea on: January 19, 2015, 05:56:51 PM
So with this idea, you can generate blocks on multiple chains, but you can't build a secret longer chain on any branch, because you will be blacklisted for a day if you don't broadcast a block when you're supposed to.

Bye bye n@s  Wink

correct, there are some other cool stuff that's accomplished by this also.

Are you Jones from the Jay framework?

yes I am.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Cleanup: I'll attack some coins - I owned APEXcoin for 90 blocks on: January 19, 2015, 02:39:39 AM
Not being a programmer, I could be totally wrong here, but I thought that in many coins with checkpointing, it's simply a flag set in the blockchain every so often. I know that peercoin used central checkpointing for a while, but then dropped it in favor of a revised system that depended on live nodes rather than any central checkpointing mechanism. Am I wrong in this?

As for NXT, other than being a cast iron bitch to set up a NXT daemon, I have no opinion on it.
checkpointing a cryptocurrency is believed to be centralized because for the checkpoint to have any effect (different than what the normal consensus would have come up with) it would have to be created by a group of people other than the original consensus group, most of the time this is the developers, so the coin with checkpoints would be centralized around the group of developers.

a good resource: links.org/files/decentralised-currencies.pdf (newbie here so probably wont show up)
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Interesting consensus idea on: January 19, 2015, 01:20:39 AM
Lets say there is a currency with 100 units.
I define the consensus group as anyone currently holding a positive number of units. (PoS)
because there is a block chain type ledger, I know the public keys of all of the accounts with positive balance.
lets say that for each block the code:
1. generates a list of all nonzero account balances and public keys
2. Takes that list and makes a sha256 has of each public key along with the hash of the previous block.
3. Takes the first 8 bytes of this sha256 to make a big number for each account.
4. Divides the number by the current balance in the account.
5. Now it makes a list of the accounts in order by the number generated earlier, smaller numbers first
6. We want a block every two minutes, and we will allow for thirty second of clock varience. (fifteen on each side)
7. Starting 1 minute 45 seconds to 2 minutes 15 seconds, we accept blocks from the number 1 on the list.
8. If the block is revieves and hood, this is started over, if not, keep going.
9. If there's no block, or a bad block, then the account is blacklisted
(blacklisted accounts cant generate blocks for a day and their block generating power is given to everyone else)
10. Keep waiting/blacklisting until an account steps up

the careful observer is now yelling WAIT, the black list makes any chain have the ability to create blocks with all of the stake, how will we know which is the correct chain.
- thanks for asking, we can resolve these disputes quite simply by just looking where more of the accounts are not skipping their turns, (will have a higher difficulty)

now the very careful observer is almost falling out of their seat, the normal nothing at stake argument PDF in hand, ready to derail this possible idea "Why doesn't everyone generate blocks on every chain, there's not reason not to"
- another great question, the reason why they wouldn't stems from economics, all of the people generating blocks have a n investment in the system and want to protect that investment, in this system, there are no fees (spam is dealt with differently) so there's no incentive to generate blocks on any chain besides to protect investments.
the only punishment for using a malicious chain is not being able to use your currency with anyone else. Lets say you buy coffee on the block chain every day, the coffee seller includes a block from the chain their on with every transaction they make to show what chain they are on, if I start a different chain, and people begin to adopt it, because why not generate blocks on as many branches as possible, then its down to the people to decide which chain to use.
in this case I would choose the same one my coffee seller is on, because I want coffee.
if a big enough representation of business is on one branch, it wouldn't make sense to ever switch to another one.

thoughts?
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'm dumping Nxt and here's why you should too on: January 18, 2015, 06:51:03 PM
I think your timeframes are too short. Marketcap rankings can be relevant over long periods, let's see if PayCoin is still as important as the market suggests it is in 1 year from now..

Well you keep arguing points I am not making, but we can both hope and agree for the above.

 You seem to be blasé about the fate of NxT because you are comparing it to scamcoins and P&D coins, while I am worried about Bitcoin and see it fighting for survival, and its enemies don't include NxT. Don't let your Hubris get the better of you....

I see bitcoin surviving for a while more, its hard to refute that, but as a system, there are improvements that can be made.

I hope that bit coins enemies aren't alts, its more like cryptos enemies are anything not crypto and centralized.

in the move towards more efficient and advanced crypto, I believe nxt will outpace bitcoin, some people dont see that, no harm in that.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'm dumping Nxt and here's why you should too on: January 18, 2015, 06:08:03 PM

nxt is a crypto in constant development and doing research into the best systems, so I would venture to guess that statistics related to unpaid people helping out the platform, and developer, research and project development would slide in nxts way.

anything relating to VC money will be weighted against nxt as that's not the route we've taken

You understand that VC money pays for professional developers right? You understand that NxT has a fraction of devs compared to those working directly for bitcoin core or on bitcoin projects, right?

Or are you under the impression that NxT actually has more development?

I am under the impression that nxt has gotten much more done in its first year of development than most if not all other cryptos and will continue to do so.
bitcoin got a head start and got the ball rolling, but it is possible for better systems to exist.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'm dumping Nxt and here's why you should too on: January 18, 2015, 05:56:56 PM
Read CfB's comments in context with the logic.

i) CMC doesn't include trading on the three decentralised exchange platforms Nxt has: Asset Exchange, Marketplace and Monetary System (and multigateway too, thinking of it. Though it isn't a core feature of Nxt).

ii) "Once everyone start using solely NXT its market cap will become 0, because no trades will be happening on centralized fiat exchanges" and centralized fiat exchanges are the only thing CMC reports.


The more Nxt moves to decentralised exchanges, the closer it will get to 0 on CMC as they only report centralised exchange stats. The decentralised stats are on the blockchain, but they just don't bother.

You are completely avoiding the fact that their are many ways to gather metrics as to NxT's falling marketshare within the crypto ecosystem as I have just shown. Even brand new coins like Stellar and Paycoin are ousting NxT when studying metrics other than market cap.

nxt is a crypto in constant development and doing research into the best systems, so I would venture to guess that statistics related to unpaid people helping out the platform, and developer, research and project development would slide in nxts way.

anything relating to VC money will be weighted against nxt as that's not the route we've taken
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'm dumping Nxt and here's why you should too on: January 18, 2015, 01:23:57 AM
I can't say I think that is a bad thing Wink
Yes it is indeed a bad thing:
Look at what has infested our ecosystem within the top 10... 2 debt coins (Ripple/Stellar), a Meme coin (Doge) and a scam coin (Paycoin).

Despite languishing, at least Bitshares and Nxt have real developers and ingenuity behind their projects. You have to respect that.

The rest of our ecosystem has been overun by PoW cloudmining ponzi's and PoS ICO scams.

And those that aren't directly involved in the scams are fine with profiting off of them because hey, may as well make some money
off that affiliate program or day trading on the ignorance of the uninitiated. The whole ecosystem needs a  colon cleansing.

its true that most the alt coins at the top are long term scams and short term scams, and mostly copy coins, but there are some good ones and original ideas. These will eventually be weeded out and only the good ones will remain.

nxt is not better or worse than bitcoin at least not at the moment, its just different, and to keep crypto moving forward we need lots of different.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'm dumping Nxt and here's why you should too on: January 17, 2015, 07:21:19 PM
if you want to be rich by doing nothing, then your correct, nxt is not for you, manyy other cryptos would work much better for that.

but if you want to be on the cutting edge of decentralized crypto developments and build something really cool on a platform that was made to house and decentralize everything, then nxt is for you.

How do you define cutting edge if most developers and development is occurring in Bitcoin based start ups, projects , assets, and research? Are there any features/abilities NxT has that bitcoin doesn't besides discussing variations in algos?

differences in algos is pretty big, but there are a few key differences aside from the pos/tf situation.

nxt has a thriving asset exchange with more good assets than any other platform.
we have the monetary system, which can be used like a side chains like system
next up in the queue is voting system, a way to get voter consensus in a decentralized way,
then there are 2 phased transactions, which are a very cool type of multisig.

nxt has flexibility where bitcoin doesn't as it is using code from today, not from 6 years ago. It is light and agile

at least this is my take, feel free to have any opinion you want.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'm dumping Nxt and here's why you should too on: January 17, 2015, 06:53:31 PM
Disclaimer: I own 50,000+ Nxt which will soon be GONE! I want out!

Looks like you made a smart move. Selling 50k Nxt on January 2014 got you 5.34BTC and if you tried dumping Nxt today you would only get 2.99 BTC.

Thus even with Bitcoin severely capitulating other crypto like Nxt is performing much worse and is in its death throws dropping to number 9 in market capitalization and as soon as ethereum is released and other assets like storj get released is likely to keep dropping to 11th and than 12th in a few months.

if you want to be rich by doing nothing, then your correct, nxt is not for you, manyy other cryptos would work much better for that.

but if you want to be on the cutting edge of decentralized crypto developments and build something really cool on a platform that was made to house and decentralize everything, then nxt is for you.
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