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481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 07, 2016, 02:25:40 PM
Link to transition bot is not working.

Make sure your byteball wallet is open and you have the correct wallet:

https://github.com/byteball/byteball/releases

V0.7.1.

Is it better to uninstall the test version before installing livenet wallet?

Not really necessary.
482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 07, 2016, 02:25:07 PM
The transition bot has gone silent for me and does no longer reply to anything. Even if I delete my profile, it still does nothing. This is very strange. Did I trigger some IP ban or something?

It stopped for some reason.  Restarted.
483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 07, 2016, 10:07:49 AM
After closing the wallet and relogin, the chat history disappeared. Possible to get it back again?

The current version favors privacy above all, and chat history is not saved.
484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 07, 2016, 10:05:54 AM
After successfully linking 1 BTC address with BB address using "Sign Message", I sent a new BB address to Transition Bot, hoping to link a second BTC address to the second BB address. I got as reply a message asking to transfer all my Bitcoins to the first BTC address. I then sent a new BTC address and the bot gave the same (first) BB address as text to be signed by the second BTC address. I did that, and got message listing Bitcoin balance for both BTC addresses.

I have 2 questions.

1. Would the total Bytes be distributed to the first BB address or will they be distributed separately to the 2 BB addresses
2. If I want to link a third BTC address using micropayment (from a different BTC wallet that does not have signing facilities), can I just send it to the receiving BTC address at the begining of the bot conversation?

1.  You'll receive all bytes at the first BB address.  It's perfectly legal to link several Bitcoin addresses to the same BB address.
2.  To link by micropayment, you send the exact amount that the bot said to the address that the bot said.  You don't have to tell him your Bitcoin address, it will be visible from the micropayment received.

Thank you! This wallet & Transition bot is awesome Smiley
So, as I understand it, all 3 BTC linked adresses will get BB at the same address.

My friend asked me to help do the linking (I have access to her BTC wallet) - so how can I do it on a separate BB address on the same machine?

To avoid messing up, better do it on a separate machine or phone.
If you want to try your chances, you can move your C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Local\AppData\byteball folder to another location (after closing the wallet) and run the wallet again.
485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 07, 2016, 09:10:08 AM
I downloaded the light wallet. To back up my wallet, what else should I do besides writing down my wallet seed?

It seems I don't need the wallet seed to log into my wallet/account. Is it right?

The seed is almost never needed.  If you are on Windows, backup  the folder C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Local\AppData\byteball.
486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 07, 2016, 09:04:45 AM
After successfully linking 1 BTC address with BB address using "Sign Message", I sent a new BB address to Transition Bot, hoping to link a second BTC address to the second BB address. I got as reply a message asking to transfer all my Bitcoins to the first BTC address. I then sent a new BTC address and the bot gave the same (first) BB address as text to be signed by the second BTC address. I did that, and got message listing Bitcoin balance for both BTC addresses.

I have 2 questions.

1. Would the total Bytes be distributed to the first BB address or will they be distributed separately to the 2 BB addresses
2. If I want to link a third BTC address using micropayment (from a different BTC wallet that does not have signing facilities), can I just send it to the receiving BTC address at the begining of the bot conversation?

1.  You'll receive all bytes at the first BB address.  It's perfectly legal to link several Bitcoin addresses to the same BB address.
2.  To link by micropayment, you send the exact amount that the bot said to the address that the bot said.  You don't have to tell him your Bitcoin address, it will be visible from the micropayment received.
487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 07, 2016, 08:53:14 AM
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b.  By signing a message (if your Bitcoin wallet supports this function).  You tell the bot your Bitcoin address and sign your Byteball address with the Bitcoin address.  After you prove one address (a typical Bitcoin wallet has dozens of them), you can either move all your coins to this single proven address or prove all other addresses in the same way -- by signing a message.

I can sign a message and send to bot, but question is: (1) what message I should sign? any message? (2) what's the format I should send message and signed message to bot, so it can verify? and how do I send them? Can you give the steps in details?

1) Your Byteball address
2) Just copy/paste the signature from your Bitcoin wallet.

Don't worry if you do anything wrong, the bot won't be angry at you and will try to give you instructions.
488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 07, 2016, 08:49:43 AM
New question guys, how do I know that my wallet is synced?

The livenet wallet (the one without TN) doesn't need to sync before Dec 25 because there are no transactions yet.
489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 07, 2016, 08:47:10 AM
How soon after the snapshot can we move the Bitcoin out of the linked address/s?

Immediately after Christmas block.
490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 07, 2016, 08:46:18 AM
I have solved the linking issue - If you have messed up the link(aka linked to the wrong BTC address) here is how to reverse and create a fresh link and instance.

1.) Uninstall all Byteball application (if you have important data make a backup).

2.) Search %APPDATA% locate "local" folder.

3.) Delete all Byteball instances.

4.) Reinstall all Byteball instances. https://github.com/byteball/byteball/releases (MAKE SURE YOU ARE USING 0.7.1. ver).

5.) Navigate to: https://byteball.org/

6.) Click airdrop chat link.

7.) You can create a fresh BTC link.


Very happy with software design so far great work @byteballteam @tony

 Cool

I'm late but looks like most issues were resolved while I was sleeping Smiley  I like this community.
491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 06, 2016, 11:56:18 PM
Starting now, you can link your Byteball and Bitcoin addresses for the upcoming distribution.

1.  Download and install the wallet for Byteball live network:
Desktop: https://github.com/byteball/byteball/releases
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.byteball.wallet
You will have two Byteball wallets - one for the testnet that you already have, the other for the upcoming live network.

2.  Visit https://byteball.org and click the link to chat with the Transition Bot.  The link will open the new wallet and start a chat.  Follow the instructions of the Transition Bot to prove your Bitcoin balance.


You have two options to prove your Bitcoin balance:
a.  By making a micropayment.  The bot will see your address the payment came from, will know that it is your address, and will instruct you to move your Bitcoins to this address.  By making several micropayments, you can link several Bitcoin addresses to the same Byteball address.
b.  By signing a message (if your Bitcoin wallet supports this function).  You tell the bot your Bitcoin address and sign your Byteball address with the Bitcoin address.  After you prove one address (a typical Bitcoin wallet has dozens of them), you can either move all your coins to this single proven address or prove all other addresses in the same way -- by signing a message.  

If you try to link the same Bitcoin address to multiple Byteball addresses, only the last linking counts.  This rule might be adjusted if we see attempts to link exchange-owned addresses.

If you prove by micropayment, remember to check that the Bitcoin address that the bot received the micropayment from, is indeed your address.  An attacker might see your payment on the blockchain and repeat the same micropayment from his address trying to trick you to move your funds to him.

3.  After linking, there is no use of the new wallet before the distribution, just keep it installed (backup if necessary).  It will receive the bytes on the distribution day.  If you make any Bitcoin payment, your coins will most likely be moved to a new change address.  Chat with the bot again, see the balance on your linked address(es) and move the coins back to the linked address(es) if necessary.

The linking phase will end on December 24 at 23:59:59 UTC, after which we'll do the distribution in proportion to Bitcoin balances in the first block timestamped after December 25 00:00:00 UTC (Christmas block).  I'll announce the exact block number several hours after this block is mined (the waiting time is to exclude the slightest chance of reorg).  The bytes and blackbytes will be sent out in the afternoon of December 25.

During this distribution we'll distribute 10% of the total supply of bytes and blackbytes.  The remaining 88% will be distributed during subsequent distribution rounds, exact dates to be announced later.  The planned distribution percentages (subject to change):

2nd round: 20%
3rd round: 30%
4th round: 38%

The rounds will be spaced 1 to 2 months.

In each subsequent distribution round, we'll take a new snapshot.  The distribution rules in the 2nd and further rounds will be slightly different from the 1st.  You'll show both your BTC balances (as in the 1st round) and your balance in bytes (which you received in earlier rounds or bought from other users).  You have a sort of basket that consists of a mixture of BTC and bytes.  To determine the weight of the basket, every 62.5 MB are counted as 1 BTC.  For example, if you have 125 MB and 3 BTC, the weight is 2+3=5 BTC.  The distribution of new bytes in the 2nd and subsequent phases will be proportional to the weight of your basket.

My 1% doesn't participate in the 2nd and further rounds.

The ratio 62.5 MB per 1 BTC is chosen so that the total money supply of bytes (1015) and the total number of BTC in circulation (16,000,000) are equivalent.

Earlier adopters have the opportunity to participate in greater number of distribution rounds and receive new bytes in each round by using the same BTC balance and bytes received in previous rounds.  You are effectively doubling your stake in each additional round you take part in.

Track the progress of linking at http://transition.byteball.org

Please retweet https://twitter.com/ByteballOrg/status/806290785486467073
492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 06, 2016, 05:09:16 PM
Total linked amount: 481.9111768 TBTC.
Transition rate is 0.0048191117683 TBTC per Gigabyte.

If I'm calcutating well, there is 10% TBB released (the same  is planned at 25-12 for BB), probably there is no time to organize another snaphots for TBB, am I right?

Yes your calculations are right. About the transition bot, tonych said:

I'm still syncing the bitcoin blockchain (now at 90%) and plan to launch the linking campaign tomorrow, this is the day when the transition bot will start working.

So it seems the next time the transtion bot is up will be for the linking of BTC addresses. I assume there might be other rounds of TBB distribution before each round of BB distribution to test the basket mechanism ...

You are right, the next testnet distribution will be prior to the second round, sometime in January.

Bitcoind is now fully synced, transition bot is up and running (on a new address), and I'm preparing to release the wallets.
493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 05, 2016, 10:32:11 PM
@tonych

Hi tonych, i want know if snapshot will start 25th exactelly for all claimer ? because i already lost money with ardor to distrib snaphot..i doesnt want lose more money if btc dump during BB claiming..so do you plan to delay for snapshot ?

Yes, the snapshot is exactly in the first block of December 25th for all claimers.

So you will publish the block number right? Hope I will get my BTCs in one address soon, just need to do a bunch self-transfers, but it is a bit annoying to find out on each address in my wallet how much they have etc.

Yes I'll publish the exact block number on Dec 25 after it is deep enough in the blockchain (to exclude the slightest chance of reorg).
494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 05, 2016, 10:28:32 PM
Can anyone send link to transiction bot?

I'm still syncing the bitcoin blockchain (now at 90%) and plan to launch the linking campaign tomorrow, this is the day when the transition bot will start working.
495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 05, 2016, 10:22:49 PM
@tonych

Hi tonych, i want know if snapshot will start 25th exactelly for all claimer ? because i already lost money with ardor to distrib snaphot..i doesnt want lose more money if btc dump during BB claiming..so do you plan to delay for snapshot ?

Yes, the snapshot is exactly in the first block of December 25th for all claimers.
496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 05, 2016, 10:17:52 AM
I've run bytebal-headless, what can I do next with it?
How to
-check if it is working at all.
-check balance
-get new address
-check incomming transactions
Anybody can show examples using curl from command line?  
How to stop it, if it is working in background?

It is mostly managed by chat, see the documentation at https://github.com/byteball/headless-byteball.
To stop it, like any other unix daemon, say "ps x" on the command line to learn its pid, then "kill <pid>".
497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 05, 2016, 09:14:30 AM
where is the Transition Bot? had it been deleted from the official website?

thank you very much.

Finally, you can experience the pre-distribution linking of Byteball and Bitcoin addresses.

We are launching a new testnet, and you'll be able to get a portion of its distribution in proportion to your balance in Bitcoin testnet.
......

The Transition Bot was tasked with helping you link your Bitcoin testnet and Byteball testnet addresses.  Now that the new testnet is launched, this mission is complete, and the bot needs some rest.  But he'll be back when we start linking addresses for the upcoming livenet distribution.  You'll see the bot again very soon.
498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 04, 2016, 07:58:19 AM
"Uncaught exception: ReferenceError: Network is not defined" when I buy pizza with byteball-TN 0.7t. And app crash (MacOS).

Please download again from https://github.com/byteball/byteball/releases and reinstall.  There was a bug that was fixed in a few hours after the release announcement.
499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 03, 2016, 11:32:53 PM
Hey Guys,
 New to the community here,two quick questions:

1. Is there a SECURE paper wallet generator for main net (or will there be?).
2. Besides the seed, what else do you need to back up to create a back up? And how/where do you do it?

Thank you,
    Pablo.

There is no paper wallet generator yet.
The seed is not enough because blackbytes are stored only on your devices, not in the public database.
For both backup and security, set up multisig wallet with redundancy, 2-of-3 is best if you have 3 devices on platforms that we support.

Hey,
  Thanks for getting back. Just to be clear, if I do not have any black byte TX's the seed is enough to back up all my regular TX's from device to device?
It would be enough if we had an easy way to import the seed.

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Am I understanding correctly that in the case of blackbytes your solution is to have redundant access?
Correct.

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Final question: Do you plan to have a marketplace by the December 25th launch, or will trades be OTC? I am interested in acquiring some if possible but I do not invest in BTC, only altcoins,.
About exchanges, not clear yet.  I'll announce if there are any confirmed agreements with exchanges.


Thanks for helping me out.

So currently how would you import the seed? Is it hard or impossible? I am trying to gauge how to secure my investment on release as I am not convinced by the redundant access theory TBH. A secure paper wallet generator would really solve most of my issues.

Thank you for you time Smiley.

Pablo.

It is possible but rather involved.
One way to restore from the seed is by installing the headless wallet https://github.com/byteball/headless-byteball.  It stores the seed in a file keys.json in its data directory.  Run the wallet once to see the format of the file (it'll generate new keys the first time it runs), then delete all data and recreate keys.json from your saved seed.  It should see the balance, then you can move the entire balance from the headless to a GUI wallet via chat commands.
500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 03, 2016, 11:21:38 PM
What is the difference between Byteball test and Byteball TN, because I test both can installs in the same android

Forget about "Byteball test", it runs on the old testnet that is now discontinued.  I removed "Byteball test" from Google Play to avoid confusion, use only TN version now.
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