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1381  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: -18 C degree, mining rig crash ? on: January 30, 2012, 09:14:12 AM
Hmmm.. if its registering 50C, that kinda rules out overheating. Im not intimately familiar with the 5970 cooler design, but I assume it uses a single large cooler, so that may not be it; there is no reason the temp sensor would be lying. Although.. can you monitor VRM temperatures? Perhaps the fan is spinning very slowly  because the GPU is so cool, that the basplate covering the VRMs gets too hot? If thats the case, it could be easy to solve, just manually set a higher fan speed.

Other thought, could it be the CPU overheating if that has a heatpipe cooler?
1382  Other / Politics & Society / Re: America Beyond Capitalism on: January 30, 2012, 08:37:53 AM
Well, why is it bollocks?

Because money doesnt represent work, it represents wealth.

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Let me guess, you are using these as examples of the failure of free market capitalism?

Not really. Yes, these are examples of failed states, where governments dont run anything in most parts of the country, and havent for decades or even centuries. No taxes are collected, no services are provided by the government outside the major cities. That leaves it to the free market to supply just about anything, from basic security to healthcare and education. The result is not quite your paradise, and believe me, its not because those Africans are not entrepreneurial.

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Those countries, without knowing a damn thing about them, are most likely suffering the results of governmental collapse. In other words, the market didn't evolve to be free, it fell into chaos when the people in control were some how removed.

Whats the difference? Failed states provide good evidence of what happens when you remove governments almost completely, I assume thats your idea of a "pure free market"? It doesnt work. It cant work.
1383  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: -18 C degree, mining rig crash ? on: January 30, 2012, 08:04:21 AM
Ironically, your card is likely overheating. Its because the heatpipes dont work at too low temperature., the liquid in it freezes or no longer evaporates.
1384  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [95 GH/s] BitMinter.com [Zero Fee, Hopper Safe, Merged Mining, Tx Fees Paid Out] on: January 30, 2012, 07:52:03 AM
Now the question is, when it is ready, is there any point waiting until saturday?

I guess not.  Probably better to do it sooner than later now, before people run away because of the stales or slow response.
But here is something you may want to write down on your ever growing todo list: notifications, so you can let people know the server is going down (not everyone reads this thread). You could this in the miner app, email or once you have implemented it, perhaps SMS. I know you already have twitter and IRC, but thats not going to reach the majority either.
1385  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Is there an easy to use miner? on: January 29, 2012, 09:56:15 PM
Try bitminter, see my sig. Its extremely easy to use (java webbased, dont even need an account if you have a google account), but of course, that wont change the fact it wont make you rich Smiley
1386  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Submersing a rig on: January 29, 2012, 09:53:38 PM
How about mineral oil? Its not like those watercooling tanks take 10 gallon, so cost isnt a big concern. Of course it would reduce flow rate a bit, depending how viscose the oil is, but Im unsure if that would be a problem. At most upgrade the pump. Im sure someone has tried this, anyone seen results?
1387  Other / Politics & Society / Re: America Beyond Capitalism on: January 29, 2012, 09:51:20 PM
Money is a representation of work (well pure money is).

Bollocks.

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We don't have true free market capitalism in any nation in the world today, and probably never have.

Somalia. Most of Congo. Most of Nigeria,... no state to distort or disrupt the free market there.
1388  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Submersing a rig on: January 29, 2012, 09:39:58 PM
I believe there are some CFC's that would work. Actually, so would 'pure' water.


CFCs? Only CFCs I know are gasses (at room temperature) and many of them powerful solvents. Aside from the fact they are illegal in most places, sounds like a terrible idea. Almost as bad as "pure" water that will ionize within the hour and short everything out.

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However, wouldn't it be less risky to figure out the thermodynamics of the system and appropriately set your Freezer to the correct settings.  Grin

If you dont mind more than doubling power consumption, coping with condensation and be able to move the heat to where you want it, yeah sure.
1389  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Why do you mine on deepbit? on: January 29, 2012, 09:18:42 PM
This network latency argument is laughable.

Lets assume a terribly bad 500ms latency. There is a longpoll on average every 10 minutes (im ignoring merged mining which you seem to despise anyway). So there is a 1/1200th chance your share will be stale because you missed the LP due to network latency. That is 0.08%. Okay maybe more if you run several miners, but somehow you think its worth giving 3% in fees to lower that number?

But its even more nonsensical than that. There is not even a direct relationship between latency and stales. If you mine at a large  pool that has to send 5000 longpolls to its miners and you happen to be the last one served, a 10ms ping isnt gonna do you any good.  It might still take 200+ms before the pool serves you.

The most sensible metric is measured stales. But guess what, unless you are mining PPS, even that is not all telling. An efficient pool will send an LP to the fastest miners first, as that will increase the block creation rate a tiny bit, so you stand to gain from being served later if you have a low hashrate.

TL;DR Use pings to choose your BF3 server, use your brain to choose a pool
1390  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Submersing a rig on: January 29, 2012, 07:30:08 PM
BWAHAHAHA.. I won the auction on Michael Schumachers Benetton F1 oil radiator  Grin

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350525626493&ssPageName=ADME:L:COSI:BE:1123

21 GBP.

ROFL. Im sure that will increase my hashrate by at least 10%!

I hope its not rusty or leaky, whoever sold it probably didnt expect anyone to actually want to use it LOL
1391  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [95 GH/s] BitMinter.com [Zero Fee, Hopper Safe, Merged Mining, Tx Fees Paid Out] on: January 29, 2012, 05:32:07 PM
P4man it isn't raw hashpower that hurts servers it is those pathetic CPU miners with 100+ workers to generate a couple GH.

There are no more workers than otherwise. 280 or so.



1392  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [95 GH/s] BitMinter.com [Zero Fee, Hopper Safe, Merged Mining, Tx Fees Paid Out] on: January 29, 2012, 05:27:36 PM
Strange the server is struggling (its actually down atm). When we had those poolhoppers, it seemed to cope just fine when he had 120+GH.
Is it possible you are logging something and that log file is becoming massive?
1393  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Submersing a rig on: January 29, 2012, 05:04:03 PM
Progress report #1.

Pur foam dried out and I started cutting :



As you can see im very good at measuring and sawing straight lines Smiley



I also underestimated the size of these cards, so this will be a single motherboard, 4 card box.

The PUR foam will need some sort of coating, it will always keep giving off particles, that cant be good. 
1394  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [95 GH/s] BitMinter.com [Zero Fee, Hopper Safe, Merged Mining, Tx Fees Paid Out] on: January 29, 2012, 03:30:08 PM
And we have a new king of the kill
1   Bossland   18,077 (MH)

Nice!
1395  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [18 GH][0% Fee] A1BITCOINPOOL.COM 20 BTC BONUS PROPORTIONAL POOL on: January 29, 2012, 03:29:09 PM
Which of course has nothing to do with the length of the block (expressed in shares).
That said, it seems the pool operator, who has the largest hashrate, is only mining part time on his own pool. Not that I blame him, it just shows that he himself realizes proportional is madness for unlucky blocks.
1396  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] TyGrr Tech on: January 29, 2012, 12:30:44 PM
We're running a review on Butterfly Labs in the Bitcoin Magazine. Their engineer from France will be meeting with Vladimir Marchenko at our UK offices and we will end the mystery once and for all. It will be published either in this month or next month's issue. I hope everything enjoys it, regardless of how it turns out.

Looking forward to it. Dont forget to tape the whole thing and ask the engineers ID. Goat is offering a $1000 reward:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48863.msg609886#msg609886

And a 10% discount on anyone purchasing from BFL:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48863.msg609823#msg609823
1397  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] TyGrr Tech on: January 29, 2012, 12:15:03 PM
You know this is the first time you talked to me since losing the butterfly labs bet.

Ignore lists and all that.

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Are you still sore over that? You did lose a lot of reputation...  

Did I really? Ill let others judge. I may have lost the bet, but my point has always been that BFL wasnt a hit and run scam showing fake photographs; while nothing has been shipped so far, the evidence for my case has grown steadily and I think is now widely accepted, even by you. Maybe you should reread all the things you posted and wonder who lost credibility. To refresh your memory, you once said you would bet anyone $100.000 if they shipped a single working board. And IIRC you still owe everyone who preordered a board $100. You may think what you want, but Im quite happy with my reputation, thank you very much.
1398  Economy / Lending / Re: Loan needed for a HD6990 on: January 29, 2012, 12:04:20 PM
Your board has 4  PCIe 16x slots (and a PCIe 1x) slot doesnt it? Since you lack the funds, you probably wont be filling that anytime soon. Your PSU wouldnt support anything more either, so might as well fill 2 with cost (and relatively power) efficient cards.

As for warranty, its a risk worth taking. Even if you dont get warranty, you could buy 4 58x0 cards for the price of one 6990. So even both cards fail within a year, its worth it. Mind you, you can buy used cards with warranty. I recently bought two 5870s with still 1.5 year warranty on them, and I paid just ~$125 for them. They are doing 890 MH/s combined.
1399  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] TyGrr Tech on: January 29, 2012, 11:18:30 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56119.msg716104#msg716104

Please no more talk about this in the TyGrr Tech thread or the Project #2 thread.  Would like to keep on topic. Thanks.

Are you worried people might think project 2 provides the hashrate for and is funded by Tygrr and this is just an elaborate ponzi? I know I would worry. I hope you are providing your shareholders some proof of ownership of the hardware.
1400  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [95 GH/s] BitMinter.com [Zero Fee, Hopper Safe, Merged Mining, Tx Fees Paid Out] on: January 29, 2012, 09:31:30 AM
Whatever it was, it hasnt gone away. Reject rates are still through the roof. I guess that new server cant come soon enough.
https://bitminter.com/livestats/big
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