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61  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: October 11, 2012, 04:59:11 PM
Roman - any update on the potential investors/payback of the lost BTC?
I somewhat expected to start seeing my "held" BTC balance tick downwards ever so slightly as transaction fees are being collected, but it hasn't happened. Maybe it's a manual process now, but Roman should automate it. Continuous, incremental progress toward getting everyone paid back, even if it will take years, would be a welcome sight.
62  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: October 02, 2012, 02:56:06 PM
blog? I can't find any. looked on site, google search, your bitcointalk profile.  could you link to it?
Intuitively, it's:
http://blog.bitfloor.com/
63  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: October 02, 2012, 01:13:39 PM
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The outage was due to  misbehavior on the server running the website and affected the website and api access.

Thanks for the attempt at transparency, but this is too vague. What was the problem? How did you correct it? You're on the Bitcoin Forum; you can get technical with us. Humor us. We need to want to trust that you know what you're doing.
64  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: October 02, 2012, 02:53:26 AM
Crazy number of executions today...
Yeah, I know. I was responsible for several dozen of those. Wink
65  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: October 02, 2012, 01:22:15 AM
On successive reconnection attempts by my bot (which uses an exponential back-off):

Code:
java.io.IOException: Error writing to server
java.io.IOException: Error writing to server
javax.net.ssl.SSLException: Connection has been shutdown: javax.net.ssl.SSLException: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
Caused by: javax.net.ssl.SSLException: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
Caused by: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
java.io.IOException: Error writing to server
java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused
java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out
java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out
java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out
java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out
java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out
java.net.NoRouteToHostException: No route to host

Ouch. Sad

Why is Bitfloor so unstable, even with scant traffic?
66  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: September 30, 2012, 02:16:57 PM
I can login. I guess the problem is over?
The symptom is over. We have no way of knowing whether the problem has been solved since Roman hasn't been forthcoming about what's going on, either here or on the Bitfloor blog.
67  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: September 28, 2012, 05:57:37 AM
Still down. This is not helping Bitfloor's already sullied image.
68  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: September 28, 2012, 12:41:28 AM
Using the API, I was able to cancel all of my outstanding orders and withdraw my entire BTC balance. The transaction shows up on BlockChain.info now, so I'd guess it'll confirm.

If this is another hack, they haven't emptied out the wallet yet.

EDIT: It has one confirmation now.
69  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: September 27, 2012, 10:13:09 PM
Bitfloor's web site is having gateway timeout errors now. Repeat attack? Seems similar to the symptoms last time. I'm going to pull out my BTC immediately if it comes back up, just to be safe. I had the opportunity to do that last time, but I didn't. If this actually is a second attack and it's successful, I'm finished with Bitfloor.

Interestingly, the Bitfloor API still appears to be functioning.
70  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: New bitfloor API: silly security? on: September 23, 2012, 02:51:27 PM
Using an API key and a shared secret (known to both client and server) with HMAC-based authentication is a pretty common model for REST services. This is the same model used by MtGox, BitMe, and Amazon S3 along with Bitfloor.
Common doesn't imply good. The Keynesian model of economics is common, but that doesn't make it good.

The extra passphrase field is another layer of security so it isn't useless. It protects against very bad scenarios such as a user obtaining a list of the API keys and shared secrets. Assuming the passphrase is stored by Bitfloor as a salted hash, the usefulness of the list is quickly degraded.
This whole "security model" looks like something designed by someone with no education in cryptographic protocols.
71  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: New bitfloor API: silly security? on: September 23, 2012, 01:39:50 AM
The secret key is used to check your message signature and as such we must use it to calculate the signature and check it for validity. The signature ensures that your message was not tampered with by a MITM.
Neither the secret key nor the passphrase nor the signature are actually needed to ensure the security and authenticity of customers' API requests. The API key is already sufficiently large (128 bits) to avoid a brute force attack, and it's never transmitted except over an encrypted (SSL) connection, and the client won't send it if the server's certificate doesn't validate, so neither a MITM nor an eavesdrop are possible. Also, SSL does already include nonces, so a replay attack is not possible, and thus the nonce field is unneeded, too.

Of course, there is still the possibility of a database dump, which would reveal all API keys to the attacker. Really, you should be requiring client-certificate authentication on the SSL connections to the API server, and your database should contain certificates for all of your API users. Then it wouldn't matter if an attacker obtained a dump of your database; they still couldn't pretend to be any of your users because they wouldn't have the private keys associated with those certificates.

Basically, all of these extra HTTP header fields are clumsy attempts to solve a problem that is already solved in SSL. And by the way, you're supposed to prefix non-standard header field names with "X-" so they don't conflict with any future standards.
72  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: September 22, 2012, 12:25:48 AM
I get this message trying to withdraw my BTC.

 Embarrassed Cry

oops! something went wrong
We have been notified and will look into the issue.

Given the fact that all customer deposits of BTC are now held in an offline (cold) wallet, and the online (hot) wallet contains only Roman's own funds with which to fulfill BTC withdrawals, it's likely that the online wallet has bottomed out. Perhaps a lot of users who had USD still sitting on the exchange when it reopened decided to buy BTC and withdraw it. That would have put a strain on the online wallet. Roman will have to refill it from the offline wallet.

The error message could be better.
73  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: September 12, 2012, 02:08:18 PM
My ACH withdrawal has just been processed/received to the tune of $2000 USD. He's working on things.
My ACH withdrawal of ~$540 hit my bank account this morning, too.
74  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: September 11, 2012, 04:13:38 AM
is there some reason an analysis of how the hack took place is not being made public?
Maybe someone is waiting for the statute of limitations to run out? LoL, just kidding. I don't suspect Roman in the least.
75  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: September 07, 2012, 04:41:58 PM
As I pointed out while the standing of BTC depositors may be undecided the standing of USD depositors is certainly not undecided.
I look forward to the day when valuing BTC is a no-brainer for a judge but valuing USD would be laughable. (Think Zimbabwean dollars, Weimar marks, or Confederate dollars.)
76  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: September 05, 2012, 07:40:55 PM
Is this going to be yet another theft which doesn't get reported to the police?
"SAVE US, PO-PO!" Give me a break. The police aren't going to be able to do jack shit; Bitcoin was designed with anonymity and irreversibility as core features. And the police aren't going to care either, as Bitcoin is still seen as a fringe element. It's like how murders of homeless people and prostitutes largely go unprosecuted.

ADDENDUM: You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want your money to be free from the State, then you can't go running to the State when things don't go your way.
77  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: September 05, 2012, 07:14:08 PM
Bet has not yet been approved.
78  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: September 05, 2012, 06:07:23 AM
I've already stopped putting any funds in any Bitcoin service. It's obvious few of them have a clue how to secure their sites and there is no way to know who does and who doesn't.
Wrong. There is a way to know. But it requires the code for the entire system, from front end to back end, to be published for public scrutiny. And not just the program code, but the server configs and software versions and everything. In fact, it should be possible for the entire file system of every server to be available via public, read-only, anonymous FTP — minus the one directory containing the private keys and the one directory that holds the database table containing the users' personal information, if such a table exists. There is no reason that the remainder of the systems' contents shouldn't be held out for the light of day to wash over them. Security through obscurity is no security at all. Cryptographic algorithms are secure despite their method of operation being public knowledge. The same should be true of web sites.
79  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: September 05, 2012, 02:28:02 AM
It would be a lot easier if the hackers would accept USD, then we wouldn't have to go to the trouble of converting to BTC so it can be stolen.
LoL! They do. Those hackers are known as "banksters."
80  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: bitfloor needs your help! on: September 05, 2012, 01:38:49 AM
It's also perfectly possible that other exchanges are being hacked in "lifestyle change" amounts but they continue to operate in a combination Ponzi/Flying Dutchman mode, accepting deposits and cheerfully reporting "balances" that are pure fiction, hoping that someday they'll make enough "profit" to earn their way back to solvency, or just because they can't bring themselves to admit that things are broken. The deeper the lies go, the harder it is to come clean.

If an exchange was doing that, some people would probably hold them up as a shining example of a well-run exchange that was impervious to hacks.
I'll point out that Mt.Gox is a Japanese company. The culture over there is even less inclined to admit fiduciary mistakes than it is in the Western world. Look at TEPCO for a prime example. If the underbelly of Mt.Gox were being eroded away by security breaches, they might not say a word.
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