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1061  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 11, 2015, 05:23:27 PM
... and just like that all the mainstream media bitcoin-pump articles stopped, like magic.

Price-perception manipulation, TA analysis tool price-targetting, HFT, leveraged derivatives, say hello to Wall St. guys this is what you asked for.


I know people like to conceptualize the swings as "pump and dumps", but reality is probably a bit more complex, and, yes, professional algorithmic trading likely plays a large part in this.

Not sure that's a bad thing though, per se: it makes (private, "retail") trading more challenging, though not impossible, but that's a sign of a maturing market as well, isn't it? The uncontested "bubble run-ups" (that went on for weeks or months) are maybe a thing of the past then, but again: how is that bad? The market is evolving, and that is (imo) more exciting than depressing.

anything that smells like a rigged market with incredibly volatile moves that  only benefit the rich and powerful is dead on arrival for mainstreet ... maybe that's exactly what Wall St. wants with bitcoin (same as they did with gold and silver)?
1062  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin XT - Officially #REKT (also goes for BIP101 fraud) on: November 11, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Do you guys think bigblockism is related to the increased number of mainstream statists in the community?

I think the overlap is large.

https://archive.is/UE8qf

hmmm, i thought the correlation was obvious from when it first became "a thing"
1063  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 11, 2015, 05:12:24 PM
any geniuses left to dump it to 305 once more?

endless trolls to dump on anything that moves up ... ya think they might have learned by now

pullback confirmed healthy, looks like upsy daisy time again.
1064  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 11, 2015, 04:48:01 AM
I went against my will of holding forever and sold at $320. Question is, buy now or wait for sub $300?
Wait. This race to $300 ain't stopping anytime soon.

In all my years trading I have won some and lost a lot, but I never won when I waited for everyone to agree on when to buy and sell. If you are doing what everyone else is doing you are probably screwed.
True.
But your screwed if you do and screwed if you don't.
Maybe I will sit this one out. It is making me dizzy. Roll Eyes

lesson from today? ... don't drink supersize vanilla milkshake before riding the rollercoaster
1065  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 11, 2015, 04:24:20 AM
feel good shorts?



whiplashed yet?
1066  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 11, 2015, 04:13:26 AM
sub-300 coinz pls?  Undecided
1067  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2015, 07:10:24 PM
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It's bitcoin's niche, that's for sure. Did you know that it's not just for shitty overpriced drugs and CP anymore? Sure! Why, CryptoWall alone has raised over $325 million in bitcoin, and now even real-life kidnappers have taken a fancy to our coin of choice!
Onward and upward!



Just hope all the criminals won't be too pissed at us, with the price crashing the way it is.
Don't wanna cause a panic, but won't lie, getting a little scared.

the biggest criminal activity on the planet is Wall St. bankster bailouts ... next stop they start making untraceable bankster criminal bailouts in bitcoin
1068  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2015, 06:51:09 PM
criminals are naturally attracted to the best forms of money ... Wall St. is going to be all over it like flies on shite.
1069  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2015, 06:06:23 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-10/hackers-accused-by-u-s-of-targeting-top-banks-mutual-funds

hacking the system hackers

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Two indictments, unsealed Tuesday, tied three of four suspects to previously reported hacks of JPMorgan Chase & Co., E*Trade Financial Corp., Scottrade Financial Services Inc. and Dow Jones & Co., a unit of News Corp.

Hackers and conspirators in more than a dozen countries generated hundreds of millions of dollars in illicit proceeds om pump-and-dump stock schemes and particularly lucrative online gambling, prosecutors said.

The global network, with 100 employees and co-conspirators, stretched from Israel to the U.S., with a dozen online casinos and payments that ran through Cyprus, Azerbaijan and Switzerland.

The co-conspirators deceived financial institutions into processing and authorizing payments to and from the casino companies and others, prosecutors wrote in their latest indictment of Gery Shalon, Joshua Aaron and Ziv Orenstein, who they say are at the center of the scheme. Shalon and Orenstein were arrested in Israel in July. Aaron remains at large.
1070  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2015, 05:34:50 PM
... and just like that all the mainstream media bitcoin-pump articles stopped, like magic.

Price-perception manipulation, TA analysis tool price-targetting, HFT, leveraged derivatives, say hello to Wall St. guys this is what you asked for.
1071  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2015, 01:32:38 AM
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Considering that Bitcoin exchanges are all unregulated, and considering market manipulation is one sure fire way of making the market doing what you want it do, which also happens to mean mega profits for the market maker, I would say that it was extremely naive to believe anything other than these markets are severely manipulated.

And, knowing that, you still chose to trade BTC, and even rely on TA to rationalize your trades Undecided

@marcus_of_augustus: he gets paid by the same TLAs I do.

loser ... I heard VCs and Banks are paying much better these days.
1072  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2015, 12:58:37 AM
BillyJoeAllen are you taking payments from any other people, organisations or entities to shill/push various positions, opinions on these boards?

hahahahaha

Would he admit it if it were true?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I want to see him deny it ... and then watch what happens Wink
1073  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Bitcoin Will Not Survive", says Jamie Dimon on: November 10, 2015, 12:54:10 AM
it's my belief that Jamie Dimon is being dishonest and is actually accumulating bitcoin

yep, most likely talking his book ... shorting, then accumulating. Notice his "announcement" came right at the time to blow the top of the wave.
1074  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2015, 12:35:57 AM
BillyJoeAllen are you taking payments from any other people, organisations or entities to shill/push various positions, opinions on these boards?
1075  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2015, 10:11:41 AM
looks good ... not so much for the shorts.
1076  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2015, 08:03:57 AM
so all the usual trolls and bears have taken to swimming in the swamp of endlessly discussing big block politics (not technicals) now that the price is rising?

Nope, just being realistic about the happy case of us receiving what we wish for.

reviving the corpse of Hearn's abortion XT for some necrophiliac loving is just sick and embarassing ... but if that is what you wish? Go for it, just do not expect to be taken seriously by the technical knowledgeable people in bitcoin.

I didn't say a word about XT, if you want my opinion, his added "features" and change of leadership killed it upon birth. I'm fine with adam's 2-4-8.

Fact is, 1MB4EVA needs to be rektd on the shores of romania. We need to seize our moment, or perish via paralysis or capture.

1MB4EVA is not being proposed as a serious technical solution. On h/ware improvements alone capacity will grow but how to implement that in a secure algorithm is the challenge, given the myriad of parameters and delicate balance of the existing competing incentive structure.

It would not surprise me that after all the work that is going on now for secure transactions anchored in main chain, but off-chain, that it turns out blocks wont be demanded by the market to be much bigger at all. Highly distributed networks scale securely best self-similarly, not monolithically (simply bigger blocks is a monolithic approach, so likely wrong) and "big" is a temporally-relative term that is near to impossible to encode in network rules that need to persist for decades.

Believe it when I see it. For now, give me 2MB for some coasting and measuring.

Noone is going to "give you" anything. Run a node, spin up a new client with the rules you want implemented or contribute civilly to a technical group that is producing a client.

Kind of off-putting to see all this "demanding" by the users ... if you want something build it. This is not the customer-supplier relationship that has been sold to you by Gavin, Hearn and the data-mining crowd. They want something from you for providing "convenient solutions, easy answers and goodies", your financial privacy. It is the same thing Google and Facebook and etc did to the web. Provide the goodies for free and meanwhile they pipe your humanity out the back-door.
1077  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2015, 07:44:01 AM
so all the usual trolls and bears have taken to swimming in the swamp of endlessly discussing big block politics (not technicals) now that the price is rising?

Nope, just being realistic about the happy case of us receiving what we wish for.

reviving the corpse of Hearn's abortion XT for some necrophiliac loving is just sick and embarassing ... but if that is what you wish? Go for it, just do not expect to be taken seriously by the technical knowledgeable people in bitcoin.

I didn't say a word about XT, if you want my opinion, his added "features" and change of leadership killed it upon birth. I'm fine with adam's 2-4-8.

Fact is, 1MB4EVA needs to be rektd on the shores of romania. We need to seize our moment, or perish via paralysis or capture.

1MB4EVA is not being proposed as a serious technical solution. On h/ware improvements alone capacity will grow but how to implement that in a secure algorithm is the challenge, given the myriad of parameters and delicate balance of the existing competing incentive structure.

It would not surprise me that after all the work that is going on now for secure transactions anchored in main chain, but off-chain, that it turns out blocks wont be demanded by the market to be much bigger at all. Highly distributed networks scale securely best self-similarly, not monolithically (simply bigger blocks is a monolithic approach, so likely wrong) and "big" is a temporally-relative term that is near to impossible to encode in network rules that need to persist for decades.
1078  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2015, 07:29:01 AM
so all the usual trolls and bears have taken to swimming in the swamp of endlessly discussing big block politics (not technicals) now that the price is rising?

Nope, just being realistic about the happy case of us receiving what we wish for.

reviving the corpse of Hearn's abortion XT for some necrophiliac loving is just sick and embarassing ... but if that is what you wish? Go for it, just do not expect to be taken seriously by the technical knowledgeable people in bitcoin.
1079  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong calls the industry to fork Bitcoin Core on: November 07, 2015, 07:24:00 AM
It seems to me that there is a new round of Bitcoin XT debate coming to us as the end of the year is nearing. I am sure that propaganda will do its job!

definitely seems to be a coordinated ramp-up in the big-block agit propaganda ... just like near the beginning of the year.

I suppose when all you have is mouthpieces, but not brains, you have to use your mouthpieces.
1080  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2015, 07:20:13 AM
so all the usual trolls and bears have taken to swimming in the swamp of endlessly discussing big block politics (not technicals) now that the price is rising?
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