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201  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: July 01, 2013, 05:35:02 PM
I have nothing against you Ken, I hope that none of my posts are being taken personal in all seriousness,

I wouldnt call myself an investor simply because I havent been doing it long enough to justify calling it my career, I am just trying to do my best in figuring out if im putting my money in the right place, I would call the recent news as positive but I am still probably going to wait till I see something physical

there has been quite a mess in this thread and if you are in fact being sincere in your business plans/operations I do want the best to come of it simply from all the doubt that has been thrown your way,

Best of luck ill keep watching and will put in money when I have more information
202  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: July 01, 2013, 04:50:25 PM
Everyone has been asking the same questions over and over for the last several days, I dont know why but Ken decides to not answer any of the questions and even wants to have power to manipulate the thread

There was a point brought by DaT stating that if Ken did in fact have the money to purchase all required devices / R&D why is he raising more capital, there should not be a need to have walls of 5 million and 1.6 million if Ken already had all the money to purchase everything,

frankly unless you bought in at .0025 there isnt any reason to hold AMC shares til Ken can answer clearly everything directly and prove that he does in fact have the NDA with eAsic, to many questions and not enough answers
203  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER Speculation Thread on: June 30, 2013, 04:47:53 PM
calling of bubbles is the biggest sham in trading, why?

it keeps going up violently you are correct

if it pops and goes down you are correct,

The world has also never seen a thing like Bitcoin BTCBTC
204  Economy / Securities / Re: The coming flash crash in AMC on: June 30, 2013, 04:38:44 PM
as someone who was a share holder the dividends went

20million to reinvestment
15million Kens possession
5million were fighting for the small bit of dividends,

Im sorry to say it but I got rid of the rest of what I had yesterday after s_stylez P.I. - like post, dhenson's post of the virtual office box and Ken's absolutely horrible way of handling the current situation mostly by staying quiet or when answering giving only mediocre answers and more promise I had enough,

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt but in this case I was blinded mostly in the huge raise in share price, I am just thankful that I got out in the green but the people who bought in out of the large wall are the ones who are really suffering right now,

Ken until everything is changed from the bottom up everyone in this thread who was calling pump and dump was on point, some handled it way more professionally and like adults than others but the point was brought to surface, I wish you the best but things are definitely in need of changing,
205  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 29, 2013, 08:51:44 PM
Agreed, I am wondering this as well

Why is it not one company all controlled by Ken? is there some tax avoidance plan we arent seeing here? there has to be some benefit and reason as to why there are 2 companies both run by Ken, it causes question there is obviously a reason its just who does it benefit the most,

lots of edits. same end meaning
206  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 29, 2013, 08:35:29 PM
Lol is 2k considered an investment? it was a gamble to begin with and a gamble it will stay,

If I thought it was actually worthwhile I would have put a real investment in, this was play money

Edit,
Ill rephrase, If there was less promise and more physical asset than I would have put a real investment in, its a gamble since we are betting on promise so ill keep my bitcoins with AMC since I considered it gone anyway
207  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 29, 2013, 08:30:14 PM
Honestly, Whatever, Lol I am still hoping that I can use the money to have fun I could care less if kens company goes flat to the ground but would be extremely happy if it goes up,

you seem dead set to keep at it so go for it man

best of luck ken I hope my 2k turns into 10k so I can take my family on a vaca


Isnt that part of what investing is?
Have a good day!,
208  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 29, 2013, 08:27:47 PM
You obviously didnt understand what I said, I was saying the word Stupid is a word I do not like using because I value both sides of argument as long as claims are valid,

You are still multiplying by 100M,  Shocked
209  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 29, 2013, 08:20:55 PM
I dont want to use words of little value but you guys are being stupid by thinking that most of us are buying for the dividend, this is not AM we are buying shares because most of us believe that AMC is currently undervalued, we are betting that the next guy will pay more for the same shares in the future given Ken Slaughter deliver on all his promises
210  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 29, 2013, 08:17:00 PM
Swede 60m shares are just completely dead and not being used no divdends being paid or being sold how can this be added to the valuation of the company if they technically arent even being circulated yet,

I get the idea behind oh Ken could just crash the price with the other 60m shares but that would devalue his holdings and his company why would he do that if he could make more by actually running a legitimate business?

Thanks Ken for the direct answer, from what ive seen so far you have made everyone eat their words when everyone was doubting your avalons arrivals, while your most recent claims are a bit more of a reach I am in it for the long haul,

This really is fairly similar to a stock traded on real markets and everyone seems to be comparing you to AsicMiner, While I do question some of your financial decisions regarding the shares I am hopeful that you are going to deliver on your promises,

Time will tell,
211  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 29, 2013, 08:03:51 PM
Insane speculation aside I still have some questions,

The question regarding VMC was not clearly answered mostly sidetracked with speak of AMC, is AMC the mining company and VMC the hardware selling?

from what Ken has said or if Ken can answer directly, the dividends are not being withheld or are they? from the phone call Lewicki posted I cant tell exactly if they are or are not Pre-NRE til the amount is paid,

Some things I can verify is that the NDA does exist with the CEO or COO Stanley Wong of EASIC and from previous experience with NDAs they usually are to protect details of contracts with significant value, I have no idea what the NDA states so im excited to see the actual scan,

at last traded price of .001 x the 40M shares the current value of the company is 3.8M, this is ambitious but more believable than the other numbers being thrown around considering the assets+projected revenue, although a company shouldnt be valued with theoretical numbers we are waiting for more information on unknowns like the EASIC chips and Avalon chips arrivals,

I am not buying on this news but I hope to hear better with more time, we can only hope Ken is actually doing what he says and hopefully there is a better future on the horizon,
212  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 29, 2013, 06:24:32 PM
I have absolutely no idea what ken holds aside of the 20M for reinvesting,

as i said 40M shares are the only existing currently, 60M of which may or may not be added in 10 months or from what the contract says any time? I have no clue I am waiting on Ken to answer up or hopefully show up with some machines,

Everyone has brought up valid points both sides im just trying to get more information before I call it a complete failure,
213  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 29, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
If your asking me if I 100% trust Ken, I Don't, if your also asking me if I bought in for dividends should also be a big obvious No. I bought in because I thought it would do exactly what it did which was blast up in price whether it was manipulation or not the shares are so cheap = lots of potential buyers.

Second your math seems pretty good right,

AMC capital fund:  20 000 000
Treasury shares :  32 000 000 (?)
Shareholders:       8 000 000 (?)

Treasury + share holders = 40m + AMC capital fund = 60m

to my understanding there are 40m shares that are being paid, 20m of which are in the reinvesting of equipment and 20m of which are on BTCT and Bitfunder to be bought, all 40m is getting paid dividends but at the moment most are in Ken's possession (my guess)

I have no loyalty to Kens company or any investment for that matter, but do I want my small gamble to grow absolutely I want to use that money and have fun,

at the moment there is a lot of misinformation and question I have them as well im just trying to see through it and at least do my small part since ive been doing my research.
214  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 29, 2013, 05:33:51 PM
Bitcoin Megastore,

Perhaps if you put this much effort into making your business run you would actually be making money instead of begging for people to tip you, We understand you are temporarily correct as well as the few others who also called a crash, however, You can tell who is a bit more professional and who is acting like a god damn child as if this is the first time he/she has ever been correct,

I have to say Ken's setup of announcing news and building a wall was setup for failure, but my main concern is how Ken has stayed extremely quiet throughout this ordeal I am assuming he also is not pleased about the recent price disaster but Im sure it would ease some peoples minds about the recent events,

All I know is that aside of the 40m and 100m share ordeal, the 60m difference is not added for about 10 months so any math incurring the valuation of the company should be multiplied by 40m

I am still going to hold because the 20 BTC I put in was a weeks worth of dividends from AM shares and was a gamble to begin with and will end the same way, but I am holding because Ken has 6 avalons and chips on the way and from the current setup half is going to reinvesting of equipment and 20m is getting paid dividends,

Everything right now is just noise until this happens, whether or not Ken is running a scam is in question and hopefully we see some better answers but at the moment this thread is just BitcoinMegastore beating the shit out of the dead horse  
215  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 28, 2013, 09:56:28 PM
Well things are definitely put into question now and I think Ken over estimated how the news would effect the market, everyone calling it pump and dump was also helpful, it is what it is and cant be right all the time every dog has his day so bears and the like, laugh it up,

still holding and hoping for the best
216  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 28, 2013, 06:41:05 PM
TBH, regardless of if Ken delivers in the hardware part of things (also, regardless of his previous strange predictions in his press releases)
reading all this and him being based in the US i wouldn't be surprised if he had many non-technical challenges that are coming his way - lawsuits, sec etc

These accusations are also a bit ridiculous, if people are claiming pump and dump ken would not be setting a price to sell the shares nor announcing that what he is doing, do some of you play the real markets? because CEOs and chair/board members buy and sell massive amounts of shares all the time, If Ken was pumping and dumping wouldnt he want to announce better news than what he said and then crash the price? isnt this what a pump and dump is?

it would be different if ken was accepting money and then paying old investor dividends with new money because then this would be a ponzi scheme but we are buying shares in a mining operation, we know he has guaranteed income, as long as the person running it is trustable the company should in theory do fine

Ken has not lied about anything he has said in the past and if you remember he was so excited to give the news he forgot the avalons were even coming (or he just was short on time), buy or sell do what you will but I guess the bets are set for 3 months to see whose outperforming who, I could care less since I own shares in both AM and AMC,

edit : not attacking superduh just saying in general that seems to be what the claim is or price manipulation but given bitcoins nature you can say the same for every security available,
217  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 28, 2013, 06:27:39 PM
Yup im stupid, I did the same thing while I was buying bitcoin which was investing in something that I thought had a chance,

Knife catching and buying things that people think have no hope is risky but brings the most reward, your entitled to your opinion but Im going to keep doing what im doing,

218  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 28, 2013, 06:22:14 PM
$25M backed with what? 6 Avalons and 20k Avalon chips? 60 Avalons and 200k Avalon chips, maybe? LOL, you people investing here are truly insane.

Why dont you let us be insane then, That is what Everyone told me when I was buying BTC for 2-4 dollars but guess whose laughing now?
219  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 28, 2013, 05:59:12 PM
Not sure if this is positive or not but I emailed the COO or CEO Stanley Wong of E-Asic and he has said that Ken and E-Asic are under a NDA

220  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: June 28, 2013, 05:28:17 PM

Thank you.

The day I converted USD into BTC was the day I considered that money gone. I'm trying to stay as levelheaded and unbiased as possible.

Not a problem, its a great mentality to have as an investor and doing so is what separates the good from the best, hopefully we both see a great return on AMC im already pretty damn satisfied so far
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