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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: January 28, 2025, 10:09:27 AM
I've been tuning my L3's recently and I have a few questions I was hoping someone could clear up?
I will only try to answer those questions I'm relatively confident I can answer, as I don't have much hands-on experience with Antminers.

1) Are HW errors, rejected/stale shares, etc factored into the reported average hashrate on the miner's status page? In other words, if I have my miner clocked really fast but it's getting way to many HW errors, will it still report a really high hash rate or will it display an "effective" hash rate that is basically all the work done per unit time excluding HW errors?
I believe that HW errors and rejected shares are not factored into the hash rate reported by the miner. So if for example you have a lot of HW errors, the hash rate estimated by the pool will be much lower than the raw one reported by the miner.

4) What is the meaning of the Local Work, Utility, and WU fields?
Utility is shares submitted (either accepted or rejected, I believe) per minute. WU or Work Utility is the same thing but counting each share by its difficulty.

5) I always assumed the "best share" field is showing what the maximum network difficulty the best share/hash computed by the miner could have been if the miner were to have found a block. In other words, if the best share field read "500,000" then that would be like saying "If the network difficulty were 500,000, the best hash found would have satisfied the requirements to solve/create a new block". But I frequently see the best share field displaying a number substantially greater than actual global network difficulty. Is this because I misunderstand what that field means?
I think you essentially get it. I suspect the problem here is that this "best share" field is expressed as a share difficulty rather than a network difficulty. Due to historical reasons, in the case of coins using the scrypt algorithm, while network difficulty is expressed in the same way as Bitcoin's, share difficulty is expressed on a different scale. For instance, network difficulty 1 corresponds to a share difficulty of about 216.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: December 31, 2024, 06:03:51 PM
Can you address recent allegations of you using users’ hashrate, for Pepe in particular, and not paying out to users in any form.
The pool pays out in LTC and DOGE exclusively, but at a higher PPS rate than you would get otherwise, by leveraging the output from all other merged chains, such as PEP. At any given point in time, the PPS ratio reflects what rate the pool offers to miners. Sorry if I'm stating something that you already know, but I think this piece of background information is crucial to understanding. (By the way, the latest news item on the website covers the subject more in depth if you haven't read it already.)

Litecoinpool.org is the 2nd largest holder of Pepe with around $4 million dollars in value.
Up until very recently, PEP (as well as a number of other coins) was worth very little. We were still mining it, though, and it was contributing a tiny amount towards an increased PPS ratio. We were not selling the mined PEP because 1) we didn't have a way to sell via the exchange platforms we worked with at the time, and 2) we didn't need to. In early December, the market price of PEP (and other merge-mined coins) rose dramatically, which in turn was reflected in a PPS ratio of up to 108%. By then we had accumulated a considerable amount of PEP, but the stellar valuation you mention is purely theoretical. I'm guessing it was obtained by multiplying the total amount by the current bid price. In practice, if we tried to sell any serious amount, the price of PEP would be driven back into the ground before we could dispose of even a fraction of it.

I have seen my PPS go from 102% to 99% in the last week,
Over the past few weeks, the market prices of PEP, as well as BEL, LKY, JKC, etc., have been going down rather sharply (whereas LTC and DOGE are holding relatively steady), and as a consequence the PPS ratio is now down to 99%.

so not sure if we’re being scammed out of our hashrate and Pepe rewards by litecoinpool.org?
The current PPS ratio is more than fair given the current profitability of merge-mined chains; in fact, it is very competitive even in comparison with pools that lack our track record.
If you are referring to the fact that you mined PEP back when it was near-worthless and were rewarded based on the price at the time you mined it rather than some higher price from the future, I don't think the criticism is sound. The pool's reward system has always been transparent and well documented. We've always made it clear that the pool doesn't pay out any minor merge-mined coins, and that in exchange for this miners get higher LTC and DOGE rewards than they would otherwise. If a miner wanted to get PEP back when it was cheap, because for some reason they had an inkling that its price would rise some day (I for one certainly didn't), they should have either bought it, or mined at a pool that paid it out directly.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: December 06, 2024, 11:56:26 PM
any plans to payout in more options than just ltc and doge?
i would like to see bells or luckycoin as an option

No, there are currently no such plans.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: November 27, 2024, 12:31:47 AM
Is there a list of all blockchains/coins currently being merge-mined? I feel like that would be interesting to look at.

On a (possibly) related note: Does anybody know what the recent jump in pps rate was caused by?

We don't maintain a public list, but right now we are merge-mining: Bells, Canada eCoin, Dingocoin, Dogecoin, Luckycoin, Myriad, Pepecoin, Viacoin, Worldcoin.

The recent jump in PPS rate was mostly due to the rise in price of LKY.

Junkcoin is adding a significant amount of profit to pools that mine it such as Mining-Dutch. Can this be added to the merge-mined coins here?

We are looking into it, but don't expect it to make a huge difference. At its current profitability level, it would affect the PPS ratio by less than 1%.

On mining-dutch, a Bitmain L9 16G in one day makes $69.79 worth of DOGE, and $16.91 worth of JKC (Junkcoin)

My bad, I didn't account for the fact that JKC's difficulty is still low because it only adjusts every 1440 blocks. With all scrypt miners on it, it would have a factor of about 7x to catch up to, and get there in about a week's time. (We're currently looking into this among other things.)

Still, the figures you quote must be for the luckier side of proportional-type results. The ideal-world (100% PPS) output from DOGE is currently about $58 a day at 16 GH/s.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: November 26, 2024, 09:29:19 AM
Is there a list of all blockchains/coins currently being merge-mined? I feel like that would be interesting to look at.

On a (possibly) related note: Does anybody know what the recent jump in pps rate was caused by?

We don't maintain a public list, but right now we are merge-mining: Bells, Canada eCoin, Dingocoin, Dogecoin, Luckycoin, Myriad, Pepecoin, Viacoin, Worldcoin.

The recent jump in PPS rate was mostly due to the rise in price of LKY.

Junkcoin is adding a significant amount of profit to pools that mine it such as Mining-Dutch. Can this be added to the merge-mined coins here?

We are looking into it, but don't expect it to make a huge difference. At its current profitability level, it would affect the PPS ratio by less than 1%.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: November 26, 2024, 12:10:09 AM
Is there a list of all blockchains/coins currently being merge-mined? I feel like that would be interesting to look at.

On a (possibly) related note: Does anybody know what the recent jump in pps rate was caused by?

We don't maintain a public list, but right now we are merge-mining: Bells, Canada eCoin, Dingocoin, Dogecoin, Luckycoin, Myriad, Pepecoin, Viacoin, Worldcoin.

The recent jump in PPS rate was mostly due to the rise in price of LKY.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: November 19, 2024, 09:29:08 PM
Do you also increase PPS rate for LuckyCoin (LKY) merge mining now?

We are not currently mining LKY. Naturally if/when we start mining it, it will be reflected in the PPS ratio, but you shouldn't expect it to make a huge difference.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: November 14, 2024, 10:24:42 PM
Why PPS Rate is going down to 99 again ?

The block subsidy for Bellscoin went down by an order of magnitude about a week ago. Also, technically this is the first time the PPS ratio is at 99%; before Bellscoin was introduced, it was 98%.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: November 14, 2024, 10:08:57 AM
I cant login to my account.
I sent email and after I tried seeing if I could reset it up and tells me my user name is being used but when trying to reset password it tells me use not found.
Did I leave the account unused for too long? I do that time to time didt have problems years ago not sure if something changed.

For a definitive answer about a specific account you should always get in touch with support over email. To protect users' security and privacy, this forum should only be used for public discussion.

That said, if your account was inactive for over a year, it has probably been deleted from the system, as per the Terms of Service. To avoid confusion, a username cannot be re-registered after its account has been deleted, so if you want to create a new account you will have to pick a different username.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: October 28, 2024, 05:52:46 PM
Just to clarify, as there seems to be some confusion about this. The pool has been mining BEL for over a month now, with a consequent increase in PPS ratio that applies to both LTC and DOGE (check your rewards history for details). There are no plans to start paying out BEL separately in the way that we do for DOGE, especially considering that BEL's block subsidy is scheduled to decrease considerably in a few weeks.

at wich date this 'test' with BEL was done?

Not sure what you mean by "test". The increase in PPS rate has applied to all users, without need to take any action, since early September.

never saw any ability to add a BEL wallet or ever got BEL for my shares here

As per my message above, the pool never paid out BEL separately in the way it does for DOGE. Instead, the added profitability from BEL contributes to a higher PPS ratio for LTC and DOGE.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: October 26, 2024, 08:22:30 AM
Now I just have to ask is there a limit which asic can mine or not?
No, you can use any ASIC that can mine Litecoin.

After my miner connected to the pool -there is a not-authorized message in the history log.
I’m registered and use of course the strings out of my profile.
Make sure that you entered your worker's name and password exactly as on the website. In particular, keep in mind that they are case-sensitive. Feel free to send a screenshot of your miner's configuration page to support via email to make sure all parameters were entered correctly.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: October 08, 2024, 01:26:58 PM
Just to clarify, as there seems to be some confusion about this. The pool has been mining BEL for over a month now, with a consequent increase in PPS ratio that applies to both LTC and DOGE (check your rewards history for details). There are no plans to start paying out BEL separately in the way that we do for DOGE, especially considering that BEL's block subsidy is scheduled to decrease considerably in a few weeks.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: June 01, 2024, 08:01:20 AM
hello all, just picked up an elphapex dg1 ltc/doge miner about a  month ago. do you support this machine? i cannot get it to hook up to the network, im not a total noob and have been in a few other pools with it without too much issue. when i was signing up i had selected antminer as the type of machine as it seemed the closest, the software on it is almost identical to an antminer. any help?

Does the following help?

Just wanted to point something out - my new Elphapex DG1's - for whatever reason..... will NOT connect to the pool on port 3333. After updating the FW and finding the same results - i figured I'd try other ports and on port 8080, it connects with no issue.

SO! For anyone else who has a DG1, if you're having issues connecting it to this pool - give this a shot!

If not, please send an email to support (see link in the website's footer), providing a screenshot of your miner's configuration page.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: February 22, 2024, 02:16:26 PM
Add full support TLS and other i gain error connection timed out in port 3333

Not sure I understand what you're trying to say, but 3333 is the port for regular Stratum. Stratum over TLS is available on on port 3443, if your setup supports it.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An (even more) optimized version of cpuminer (pooler's cpuminer, CPU-only) on: September 12, 2023, 10:54:53 AM
recently I tried getting cpuminer to run on a Raspberry Pi 4 (aarch64)
I'm using somewhat older codes (version 2.4) from
https://github.com/pooler/cpuminer

I couldn't figure out how to get it to build with the ARM assembly codes, and apparently scrypt-arm.S seemed to be written for armhf (32 bit ARM microprocessors).
Hence, there could possibly with issues compiling in aarch64 (ARM 64bit instructions and OS)

It's not about issues, it's just plain incompatible. Despite the name similarity, 64-bit ARM (AArch64) is an entirely different architecture than 32-bit ARM, and the hand-written assembly code in cpuminer only targets the latter. I never got around to writing optimized code for AArch64, so all you can do at the moment is compile a C-only version of the miner.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An (even more) optimized version of cpuminer (pooler's cpuminer, CPU-only) on: December 08, 2022, 09:18:16 AM
I feel that the cpuminer is not adding fees along with block-reward.

I am looking at coinbase transaction generation, code under section   /* build coinbase transaction */

Code:

      tmp = json_object_get( val, "coinbasevalue" );
      if ( !tmp || !json_is_number( tmp ) )
      {
         applog( LOG_ERR, "JSON invalid coinbasevalue" );
         goto out;
      }
      cbvalue = (int64_t) ( json_is_integer( tmp ) ? json_integer_value( tmp )
                                                   : json_number_value( tmp ) );


I feel it is missing the fees addition, below is the code I was expecting to compute and add fees.

[...]

The coinbasevalue field already includes all available transaction fees.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: November 07, 2022, 08:46:01 AM
Where may We find the Coins being Merged at any time? ...

More out of curiosity than necessity Wink

Right now we are mining Canada eCoin, Dogecoin, Earthcoin, Myriad, Pesetacoin, Viacoin.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: September 30, 2022, 03:23:54 PM
Prior to netting that out, isn't network difficulty a part of that equation? How do I take that into account?

Network difficulty is part of the formula to compute the PPS rate, which you can find in the FAQ on the website.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: September 30, 2022, 12:14:11 PM
I've been merge mining with litecoinpool for a year now and have quite a bit of data that I pull together in a Grafana dashboard. Recently, I've been trying to estimate my bottom line based on historical payouts, difficulty, market price, etc. I've been searching for the algorithm behind the litecoinpool calculator in an attempt to measure potential outputs over time. The values fluctuate fairly dramatically and thought it would be helpful for me to estimate payouts so that I can adapt to market changes. It'll help me manage the bottom line better.

My questions are:
- is that dumb (because of how drastic the values fluctuate)?
- if not, can anyone help me learn the backend math to calculate the profitability analysis?

I'd like to smooth that over time in Grafana. The API returns all the information (minus the input variables like estimated hash, power utilization, and power cost).

Any help with the algorithm?

It's pretty simple. The expected number of hashes over a period of time is average hashrate multiplied by time. You divide that by 65536 and you have the expected number of baseline shares. You then multiply by the price of a share (i.e., the PPS rate) and you get expected rewards in LTC. The formula for the PPS rate is in the FAQ on the website.

As for energy costs, it's even simpler, as energy is power (in kW) multiplied by time (in hours).
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The First Litecoin PPS Pool (litecoinpool.org) on: September 27, 2022, 08:35:41 AM
With Dogecoin being bias to PoS, is there any alternative to increase profitability, once LTC becomes a lone reward?
The pool is already merge-mining multiple chains, not just Dogecoin. The number of chains one can merge is practically unlimited, so Dogecoin dropping AuxPoW wouldn't really open up a spot for another chain.

LTC+DGB for example?
That cannot be done, since neither coin supports being mined as an auxiliary chain.
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