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621  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ARTICLE] Bitcoin To Collapse? on: September 01, 2011, 09:22:11 PM
... Modern computers are simply too insecure to handle a cryptocurrency. I predict that secure, proven correct on pain of liability, computers of equivalent complexity will take generations (or about 150 years) to develop.

I disagree.  We have all of the building blocks to make a truly secure language/operating system.  I actually hope the rise in popularity of crypto-currencies will spur investment in new operating systems that address these problems.  Windows, Unix, and OSX are all based on 40+ year old technology.  It's the huge amount of infrastructure and investment built around these old OSes that is holding back progress.  Not only is a secure operating system (one free from viruses, malware and the like) possible to build, it's not even terribly difficult (but it will take a lot of effort and require a large amount of investment that might require many years to recoup).

40 years is not a long time. There was about 400 years between the industrial revolution and the printing press. The printing press allowed ideas to be widely disseminated cheaply. Copyright law was invented to curtail 'piracy'. I suspect the agricultural revolution took a similar amount of time to convert society from groups of nomads to people with permanent settlements. We are barely scratching the surface of what computers can do: for the most part, they are still emulating the older analog technologies.

The reason I think a secure computer system will take so long is that it is turtles all the way down. There exists a version of the L4 Microkernel that has been verified by an automated proof checker that it implements its advertised interface. To build a secure, proven correct system, you need to do the same for the proof-checker, compiler and any hardware the system will run on. Unless you are buying a mainframe, no computer system is guaranteed to operate as advertised. Mainframes do every calculation twice because the hardware can fail at any time.

My point bringing up copyright law is that modern consumer computers can't be proven correct. Not only are they not guaranteed to work properly, they often have undocumented features built into the hardware and firmware. We have to trust that these features will only be used for censorship and not subverting any popular crypto-currency.

I basically agree with you...especially regarding the need to build on a trusted hardware and firmware platform...open source hardware is very important.  For the same reasons that bitcoin could only work as an open source project, a truly secure computing platform needs to be built on an open hardware and firmware platform (where you don't have to trust anyone, you can verify for yourself that the system is secure).  As for the hardware behaving correctly, fault tolerance and error correction can be built into the software that runs on top of the cheap hardware.  It might not be possible to prove that such a system is 100% correct in its implementation as a result, but a 99.999% probability of correctness may be sufficient for most applications.

Operating System research tends to take a bottom up approach to the problem...I think the community of language researchers actually have a lot more to say about how to build truly secure systems...one of my favorite quotes is:

''Operating System: An operating system is a collection of things that don't fit into a language. There shouldn't be one.'' – Dan Ingalls, in an article in Byte Magazine, 1981.
622  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ARTICLE] Bitcoin To Collapse? on: September 01, 2011, 06:49:14 PM
Put another way: you are thinking in the extreme short term. In my opinion any crypto-currency, no matter how good, will fail in the next 20-50 years. Modern computers are simply too insecure to handle a cryptocurrency. I predict that secure, proven correct on pain of liability, computers of equivalent complexity will take generations (or about 150 years) to develop. IMO, due to the 1996 WIPO 'Copyright' and 'Performances and Phonographs' treaties*, computer security has been regressing for the past 15 years.

I disagree.  We have all of the building blocks to make a truly secure language/operating system.  I actually hope the rise in popularity of crypto-currencies will spur investment in new operating systems that address these problems.  Windows, Unix, and OSX are all based on 40+ year old technology.  It's the huge amount of infrastructure and investment built around these old OSes that is holding back progress.  Not only is a secure operating system (one free from viruses, malware and the like) possible to build, it's not even terribly difficult (but it will take a lot of effort and require a large amount of investment that might require many years to recoup).
623  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to make sure Bitcoin will never be banned by governments! on: September 01, 2011, 02:05:03 PM
Our US lawyers have confirmed that at this point it is not legal for an organization to accept donations in bitcoins.

They have hope this situation can be resolved, but in the meantime, in the USA, accepting bitcoin donations puts the organization at risk.
Citation please.  My family business is tax preparation.  Both my mother and sister are IRS enrolled agents and represent individuals and organizations before the IRS.  I have consulted them on the matter and according to them, there is absolutely no issue with a charity accepting donations in bitcoin.
624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FBI Admits To Engaging In Infiltration, etc in Competing Currencies on: September 01, 2011, 02:00:28 PM
Edit: the foil wrapping is designed to trap heat, keeping the burger warm longer.
They also make great hats.  Wink
625  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bit-Pay introduces OpenCart payment extension on: September 01, 2011, 01:35:02 PM
You guys are awesome. Not a week goes by without you coming up with yet another solution. Nicely done!

Thanks, we certainly appreciate the compliment. 

By the way, we are in need of a skilled PHP/JavaScript developer with some knowledge of various shopping carts.  I am looking for someone that might want to take on a few integration projects (i.e. creating plugins for other shopping cart software and helping merchants integrate their store fronts).  It's something that someone could do in their spare time.  I'm hoping to find an individual that is reliable and that I could confidently refer merchants to and that would become an expert in the bit-pay platform.  Over time if the relationship works well and as we grow, this could lead to a formal role overseeing our professional services.
626  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ARTICLE] Bitcoin To Collapse? on: September 01, 2011, 01:26:51 PM
It's not clear to me that 3 minute blocks and faster difficulty retargeting has any advantage and I believe it is less secure, not more secure.  Also, the community is rapidly building out infrastructure around bitcoin, few developers have the time or motivation to support a new and unproven block chain like solidcoin.  Most of the value in a crypto currency is determined by its level of adoption, not by minor tweaks in the protocols.  Even if solidcoin was a marginal improvement (which I don't think it is), I'd have trouble committing scarce resources (i.e. time) to it and sacrificing time that could be used to advance the bitcoin infrastructure.  I think very highly of the core bitcoin developers.  The developer of solidcoin seems to believe himself to be a superior computer scientist to the bitcoin developers.  He may or may not be a talented computer scientist, but I know for certain that the developers of bitcoin are talented computer scientists.  I believe their deliberate and considered approach to tweaking the bitcoin protocols adds *substantial* value to bitcoin.  

We've witnessed the demise of several bitcoin forks already...in my mind, those failures have substantially raised the bar for any competing bitcoin fork.  Very few people are going to jump on any bitcoin fork unless it has an absolute and undeniable advantage over bitcoin.  I don't think solidcoin comes anywhere close to meeting that bar.
627  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / [ANN] Bit-Pay introduces OpenCart payment extension on: September 01, 2011, 09:02:35 AM
Bit-pay has developed an easy-to-use plugin payment module for opencart.  The bit-pay module can:
 
1.       Create an invoice based on an order total in USD or BTC
2.       Create a unique payment address for each sale
3.       Auto-forward the bitcoins to the merchant’s wallet, or sell them and transfer USD by ACH
4.       Track your sales summary and trends

Opencart is a powerful open-source shopping cart platform for online merchants.  Many merchants in the bitcoin community use OpenCart, and many of them have been unable to process payments for several weeks now.
 
We moved the OpenCart module to the top of our list, ahead of other planned developments, so that we can meet the immediate needs of the bitcoin community!
 
If you are using OpenCart and you would like to accept bitcoins, apply for a merchant account with Bit-pay to get started.
 
https://bit-pay.com

The opencart extension can be directly downloaded here:
https://bit-pay.com/downloads/bitpayOpenCartExtension-0.1.zip

It is also available via the opencart extension marketplace:
http://www.opencart.com/index.php?route=extension/extension/info&extension_id=3119&filter_search=bitcoin&sort=e.date_modified&order=DESC

628  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Article - Bitcoin, Bernanke, and My Lunch Money on: September 01, 2011, 06:16:05 AM
Awesome article Erik!
629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bit-pay Merchant Solutions for Charities & Non-Profits on: August 31, 2011, 09:14:40 PM
I think you are misinformed.  Anonymous donations are quite common (at least in the US).  The ability to make truly anonymous donations using bitcoin might actually be a highly desirable feature.  All the IRS cares about is that you can prove that you actually made the contribution that you claimed on your tax form should they decide to audit you.  Half the time that I've donated, the charity gave me a blank receipt and let me fill it out.  And, as far as a receipt goes, just about anything goes...the IRS has no standard form for such receipts.

I can't comment on bitcharity.org, but one thing you could do is inform the charity of any donations to those addresses (and the charity themselves could monitor transactions to those addresses).

I disagree that tax-deductible anonymous donations are quite common. Sure anyone can accept bitcoins, but to meet the IRS rules, either the deductor or the charity have to have records. As far as a charity handing out blank tax deductible donation receipts, that wont work with the IRS where you just fill in the amount and they accept that position. I'll admit not all businesses know all regulations, and not all filings and records are in proper order. But if you look at the rules set out, they dont entitle anonymous tax deductible donations.

Anonymous donations are very common.  You are correct that either the person claiming a deduction or or the charity needs to have records.  I think you're confusing anonymity and record keeping.  As far as the IRS is concerned, they only care that you can prove to them that you made the donation (the proof can be in many forms and is only actually needed should you get audited).  The charity does not have to know who made the donation.  In fact, my previous employer allowed donations through payroll deduction and you could select an option to remain anonymous.  Obviously, the employer would know who made the donation, but the charity would not.  And those donations are definitely tax deductible.
630  Economy / Marketplace / Re: MyBitcoin was probably a scam - and if it was, here's who's responsible on: August 31, 2011, 05:47:23 AM
Strange how mybitcoin.com just went offline.

Quote
404 Not Found

The server can not find the requested page:

    50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/ (port 80)

Please forward this error screen to 50.61.240.200's WebMaster.

404 error page shows it is hosted at Arvixe

Quote
<h1>404 Not Found</h1>
<p>The server can not find the requested page:</p>
  <blockquote>
    50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/ (port 80)
  </blockquote>
<p>
    Please forward this error screen to 50.61.240.200's
    <a href="mailto:servers@arvixe.com?subject=Error message [404] 404 Not Found for 50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/ port 80 on Tuesday, 30-Aug-2011 22:00:07 PDT">

    WebMaster</a>.
</p>
<hr />

Wait, I've seen that somewhere...
Of course, this is where OnlyOneTv is hosted!

Quote
Whois Server Version 2.0
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

   Domain Name: ONLYONETV.COM
   Registrar: ENOM, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.enom.com
   Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
   Name Server: NS1.RAVEN.ARVIXE.COM
   Name Server: NS2.RAVEN.ARVIXE.COM

   Status: clientTransferProhibited
   Updated Date: 15-aug-2011
   Creation Date: 15-sep-2010
   Expiration Date: 15-sep-2012

Bruce, you are a magnet to unfortunate coincidences.


All this proves to me is that someone is deliberately trying to make it look like mybitcoin.com is hosted at the some place as onlyonetv.com:

Quote
$ curl mybitcoin.com
<title>302 Moved</title>
<h1>302 Moved</h1>
This document has moved to URL <a href="http://50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/">http://50.61.240.200/proxy/errors/404/</a>.

Someone changed mybitcoin.com to return a redirect response to the ip address where onlyonetv.com is hosted.  I didn't want to get involved in this thread, but felt this needed to be pointed out.
631  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: New block explorer type site needs testing / feedback on: August 31, 2011, 04:40:37 AM
Very nice!  How are you calculating the cost to mount a 50% attack?  Am I correct in reading that you estimate it to be $12.7 billion?  That's far greater than what I've estimated in the past.  That would be awesome if accurate, but I think that's probably way too high.
632  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bit-pay Merchant Solutions for Charities & Non-Profits on: August 31, 2011, 03:14:24 AM
yes, if you get the receipt...which they are not suppose to hand out if they dont know who the donor is. The charity by law must keep record of the source of donations. A terrorist cant give $1 million confidentially to AlQCharity#5 without any records....nor can you just type in someone else's credit card# for your donation....well thats how its supposed to work. Bitpay saying who the donor is not going to cut it either.

As I said, wait until there is a dispute....but then again, maybe there are some charities willing to put their 501c3 status on the line to accept bitcoins through some payment processor.

I did look at a site, http://www.bitcharity.org/#addresses, which claims a bitcoin address for Amnesty International....which seems like their(bitcharity) address that who knows what happens after that. I didnt see a 501c3 listed there for the direct donations. Freedombox doesnt have any records on the foundation lookup(it doesnt claim to be a 501c3 either)...http://bartlett.oag.state.ny.us/Char_Forms/search_charities.jsp

I think you are misinformed.  Anonymous donations are quite common (at least in the US).  The ability to make truly anonymous donations using bitcoin might actually be a highly desirable feature.  All the IRS cares about is that you can prove that you actually made the contribution that you claimed on your tax form should they decide to audit you.  Half the time that I've donated, the charity gave me a blank receipt and let me fill it out.  And, as far as a receipt goes, just about anything goes...the IRS has no standard form for such receipts.

I can't comment on bitcharity.org, but one thing you could do is inform the charity of any donations to those addresses (and the charity themselves could monitor transactions to those addresses).
633  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bit-pay Merchant Solutions for Charities & Non-Profits on: August 31, 2011, 12:47:02 AM
According to my tax adviser, you only need a receipt from the charitable organization for cash donations.  For donations of property where you declare a value, you also only need a receipt if it's $5000 or less.  If it's over $5000, then an appraisal is required.  If anyone donates more than $5000 using bitcoin, you might consider getting a letter ruling from the IRS (or just sell the bitcoins and give them the cash and avoid the hassle).

Edit: but don't trust me, it's all right here: http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=106990,00.html
634  Other / Off-topic / Re: Moderated Bitcoin Forums? on: August 30, 2011, 04:00:16 PM
However, the best solution I've seen is a voting system (like Reddit), where trolls get down-voted and effectively ignored.

I think free speech goes hand-in-hand with the Bitcoin philosophy and places like Reddit turn into circle-jerks where only the popular opinions ever get seen and anyone expressing a contrary opinion is effectively silenced via downvotes.

Apparently freedom is a great concept until it becomes a minor inconvenience, right?
There is plenty of free market demand for well moderated forums.  Freedom of speech is not an obligation for others to listen.
635  Other / Off-topic / Re: Moderated Bitcoin Forums? on: August 30, 2011, 03:54:12 PM
Are there any good moderated forums for bitcoin that people can recommend?  I don't really like the thought of someone having that kind of control over forum postings, but this forum has degenerated to the point where I think such a forum is an unfortunate necessity.  And, btw, this kind of thing is not unique to bitcoin.  Almost every community that achieves some degree of popularity has to take such steps at some point.  I would also recommend shutting this forum down (an action that I think, while unfortunate, is probably in the best interest of bitcoin).

Have you thought of just using the ignore function. Not sure how it works, but whether you can ignore a whole thread or a particular user, that would work nicely. It would be sad to see you guys leave, you're among those doing really good work for Bitcoin.

I don't need tools to ignore certain people or threads, I just do.  I just want a place where I can engage in serious discussion about bitcoin without having to wade through pages and pages of people's personal quarrels and other nonsense.  I also want a forum where people new to bitcoin can land and not be completely turned off by such nonsense.  I suggested shutting down this forum not because I'm against having unmoderated forums, but because this is the oldest and hence most popular bitcoin forum.  And in my opinion this forum is no longer deserving of being the place where people are first introduced to bitcoin discussion topics.  I'm sure another unmoderated forum will be started in short order and it can stand on its own merits.
636  Other / Off-topic / Moderated Bitcoin Forums? on: August 30, 2011, 03:29:19 PM
Are there any good moderated forums for bitcoin that people can recommend?  I don't really like the thought of someone having that kind of control over forum postings, but this forum has degenerated to the point where I think such a forum is an unfortunate necessity.  And, btw, this kind of thing is not unique to bitcoin.  Almost every community that achieves some degree of popularity has to take such steps at some point.  I would also recommend shutting this forum down (an action that I think, while unfortunate, is probably in the best interest of bitcoin).
637  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: TED discussion - Bitcoin - Commerce without Borders on: August 29, 2011, 04:42:22 AM
Excellent!
638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Block 142742 [MtGox] on: August 27, 2011, 01:47:57 PM
Most impressive.  At $15 a coin market cap of $34.8 million.

You calculated that based on the entire amount that moved in that transaction, however I'm sure not all of the transactions in that block are mtgox.  The first one seems to be a confirmed mtgox transaction from and address that had ~384,000 bitcoins. 
639  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Business Review - Call for Writers on: August 27, 2011, 05:06:16 AM
How about trying to get one high quality bitcoin article per week.  Not too long and not too short and put some time into editing.  Have the author submit something, then review and edit it a few times before publication.  I think you'll find plenty of people that would be willing to write such articles and you don't need to pay them anything.  You could probably find people to help with the editing as well.
640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin on marketwatch.com on: August 27, 2011, 02:39:37 AM
That's actually a great article.  Tell people something may be a little bit too advanced or risky and that they should stick something more appropriate for their level of sophistication and they'll want it all the more.
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