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1081  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 08:19:57 AM
To sum up, Goat for some reason goes from this, where he acknowledges the debt and his intent to repay it,



To this, upon Gurrty reminding him of his debt and exact details more than half a year later:



Gurrty doesn't respond to this inconceivable reply where suddenly, Goat no longer acknowledges any debt. After almost two years of no repayment, he decides to be more aggressive in his approach and speak of FBI and SEC. Suddenly, Goat feels "blackmailed" and severs contact.

Nice.
1082  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 07:57:01 AM
So the problem is that he didn't reply to your insolence "why" exactly you owe him any money? It seems well established in the prior conversation why and how much. He didn't need to respond. It is you who needed to do something, and that was honor the contract.

If this is the entirety of it, then it's scammier than I even thought.
1083  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 06:39:48 AM
If the FBI/SEC thing is really the "threat", then it came two years after he should have been paid, and it's more than a fair reaction. Why wasn't he paid in those two years, even though Goat obviously had the means to do so?

What happened between https://i.imgur.com/n1PtwQK.png and https://i.imgur.com/QsTwelS.png If nothing happened, then WHY?
1084  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 25, 2014, 05:51:15 AM
You guys want to take bets whether he will return to this forum again? Cheesy

A day ago he said to me he was leaving.

Hmmm....what side of the bet are you on? lol
I think I'd bet against it. He'll probably try defend himself with excuses.
Shame I didn't find anyone to bet with. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
1085  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 25, 2014, 04:37:00 AM
Everyone understand now why I've been so skeptical?
I always knew he was a shady guy, it's just that people on this forum are often times blinded when people flash their lamborghinis and castles. Cheesy
1086  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 25, 2014, 04:30:19 AM
You guys want to take bets whether he will return to this forum again? Cheesy

A day ago he said to me he was leaving.

Hmmm....what side of the bet are you on? lol
I think I'd bet against it. He'll probably try defend himself with excuses.
1087  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 25, 2014, 04:25:48 AM
You guys want to take bets whether he will return to this forum again? Cheesy
1088  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 04:12:33 AM
This image https://i.imgur.com/n2N9ZdM.png of the msg Supposedly  shows goats activity at 840 back in 06/06/2012 and today his activity is 840.  How is this possible? in two years goat has been on enough to make his activity level move since then hasn't he?

this photo shop?
He deleted a lot of his own posts on this forum. That should decrease activity.

But remember the formula for activity does include time spent logged in over a course of a week or two.

This gets added to your activity permanently no matter how many posts you have.
No, this is tied to how many posts you make in a particular week, and for how many weeks. If you delete posts, then you will have possibly less posts than 14 per week.

"time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(time * 14, posts)/"
1089  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat owe me 3740.35 BTC on: May 25, 2014, 04:05:28 AM
^ Indeed, pretty sure he now regrets flaunting his wealth.

This image https://i.imgur.com/n2N9ZdM.png of the msg Supposedly  shows goats activity at 840 back in 06/06/2012 and today his activity is 840.  How is this possible? in two years goat has been on enough to make his activity level move since then hasn't he?

this photo shop?
He deleted a lot of his own posts on this forum. That should decrease activity.
1090  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 10:49:16 PM
Today. Myself Cheesy
Great, thanks for the info. We have conflicting reports then apparently. All the more reason they should make it clear in the TOS.
1091  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 10:36:57 PM
This has nothing to do with insolvency oda, take your strawmans elsewhere. Telling people they're verified and letting them trade/deposit just fine, not mentioning any sort of anal probes about source of Bitcoins in TOS, and then having it come as a surprise when withdrawing is inacceptable. No real broker will do this.

Go through the last 3 or 4 pages of this thread. Count how often someone asks "does this mean I should be worried about my deposits"? (by my count, around 4 or 5 times).

I will stop building strawmen when you guys stop using the rhetoric reserved for a "danger! get your money out!" situation, where in reality you should be using your "that's against my principles, and all that btc stands for" rhetoric.
"You guys" doesn't include me (and many others either), I never made that argument. And this has nothing to do with principles but lawfulness. Again, no real broker will ever create a situation where you have money on exchange and are suddenly surprised by some anal probe all the while thinking you were verified and have your money trapped. I can't wait for the day that we don't have to deal with these amateur operations anymore.

Sorry but most in here are not saying that they are insolvent. What they are saying is that the intrusiveness goes above and beyond reason and is sprung on you with out any guidelines or clarification, thats not impotent rage. People are allowed to feel how they like about that, both in terms of the requirements themselves and what happens to the data, and discuss it too.

And that quote is out of context of the conversation which was about being asked for proof. He was saying that they don't ask for proof despite evidence to the contrary including a user who posted after that.


I'm aware of the context.

And as I said before: I (and all the other cases I've hear of, except for one now I guess) appeared to get out of those questions just fine without providing ridiculously complicated proofs.

I have been following this in the past and I had the same impression as you prior to today's reddit post. That is why I am surprised. Perhaps they have changed things? How recent is the last case you heard of where they did not ask for proof?
1092  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 10:25:44 PM
This has nothing to do with insolvency oda, take your strawmans elsewhere. Telling people they're verified and letting them trade/deposit just fine, not mentioning any sort of anal probes about source of Bitcoins in TOS, and then having it come as a surprise when withdrawing is inacceptable. No real broker will do this.
1093  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 10:00:35 PM
Are you saying OP faked the whole conversation from his thread, where they demand all sorts of crazy proof? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26apno/bitstamp_will_not_process_withdrawal_unless_you/

If it was so, then it would be easy enough for Bitstamp to say he's a liar. I doubt he is.
1094  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 06:57:20 PM
Granted, looks like the "origin of your funds" question is absent, but other than that: get used to the fact that /all/ major exchanges, whether they are that mythical "legitimate" exchange you keep wishing for, or just our regular old existing exchanges, are covering their asses as hard as possible.

We knew that would happen at the fiat gates. Let's not act all surprised about it now.
The whole questionnaire I am talking about is absent, this is no different from passport + utility bill which Bitstamp already demands and has you believe you are verified (hell, it says so on your profile), until you withdraw.

There's no way around KYC rules, but Bitstamp has taken it further than anywhere I have ever seen.
1095  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 06:36:57 PM
When on earth will we have Bitcoin tradeable in volume on legitimate exchanges/brokers?

I've never seen a bank or broker 1) ask the kind of questions Bitstamp does AND 2) force you to actually prove it via bank statements, address signing, receipts. Who do they think they are, law enforcement themselves? I can't imagine that this is what the law demands, it goes far beyond it. And of course, not establishing this when already depositing or verifying, and nowhere mentioning this and the thresholds is scammy as hell.
1096  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 23, 2014, 01:38:03 AM
oh so sad.

many of the altcoins are slowly getting strangled by Bitcoin.  Ripple down over -41%.  Dogecoin on a steady decline.  
I
the only one doing really well albeit for a short time period is Darkcoin b/c apparently ppl like privacy.  Roll Eyes
Are the Bitcoin devs open to implement true anonymity if it is possible?

It's good to see the scamcoins dropping like flies, but I do wish Bitcoin was much more anonymous. Right now, I can't even select which inputs to use for a transaction (I believe Coinjoin will let you do this?).

Of course you can do this, also in the official client (just update your client once in a while Wink)
Really? Can you do it in Armory too? How?

Yes

Armory had coincontrol way longer.

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Custom change addresses and coin-control only appear if the user explicitly changes the mode to "Expert." 
There we have it, I never thought expert had anything I'd need. Thanks for making me aware.
1097  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2014, 01:10:32 AM
Has China banned Bitcoin this week yet?

I heard China banned Windows 8 this week  Shocked

if this is true, it's a real blessing to the Chinese people.

I hate 8

Damn right. Only recently I became a Mac user. I still keep a PC with Vista running but I will never move to Windows-NSA-spyware-8.

Seriously? How is Apple different from Microsoft with regards to the NSA?
1098  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: May 23, 2014, 01:04:44 AM
Wait till Thursday's reporting Cool

No action again
This has got to be because of their bank account. It's unusual.
1099  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 23, 2014, 01:03:06 AM
oh so sad.

many of the altcoins are slowly getting strangled by Bitcoin.  Ripple down over -41%.  Dogecoin on a steady decline. 

the only one doing really well albeit for a short time period is Darkcoin b/c apparently ppl like privacy.  Roll Eyes
Are the Bitcoin devs open to implement true anonymity if it is possible?

It's good to see the scamcoins dropping like flies, but I do wish Bitcoin was much more anonymous. Right now, I can't even select which inputs to use for a transaction (I believe Coinjoin will let you do this?).

Of course you can do this, also in the official client (just update your client once in a while Wink)
Really? Can you do it in Armory too? How?
1100  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 23, 2014, 12:47:45 AM
oh so sad.

many of the altcoins are slowly getting strangled by Bitcoin.  Ripple down over -41%.  Dogecoin on a steady decline. 

the only one doing really well albeit for a short time period is Darkcoin b/c apparently ppl like privacy.  Roll Eyes
Are the Bitcoin devs open to implement true anonymity if it is possible?

It's good to see the scamcoins dropping like flies, but I do wish Bitcoin was much more anonymous. Right now, I can't even select which inputs to use for a transaction (I believe Coinjoin will let you do this?).
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