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1081  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 09, 2013, 03:51:59 AM
Why? If the US defaults, gold would probably collapse along with everything else.
1082  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 09, 2013, 03:36:19 AM
Hopefully DPR used an m-of-n method, or chose a truly random key/passcode to secure the wallet.
Ah yes, that would really help him if he keeps them for a lifetime in jail. And it will surely help his relations with his inmates, some of them who may get out of jail again, given that the only thing standing between them and potentially 80 million worth of assets is a little "convincing". Cheesy Cheesy

Btw, I guess you're short gold again cypher?
1083  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Mt. Gox - Oct 15...demand official update on: October 08, 2013, 11:02:47 PM
with litecoin at it's side will hopefully get back to being number 1.
Hahahahahahaha, MtGox to be rescued by a scamcoin. Cheesy
1084  Economy / Speculation / Re: Actual Bitcoin commerce vs. speculation on: October 08, 2013, 10:52:15 PM
On topic: bitcoinstore.com ?  Probably a lot less action, but still a decent business, no?

Any numbers on that?
I mentioned them in my post, they failed to meet their transactional goal to keep their prices multiple times in succession even though they kept BTC and let them appreciate to skew the statistics (the requirement was in USD per timeframe). I'm not sure how much it was anymore, but it's certainly no match for Silk Road.
1085  Economy / Speculation / MOVED: No arbitrage on Mtgox or wtf does that mean? on: October 08, 2013, 10:42:10 PM
This topic has been moved to Service Discussion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308042.0
1086  Economy / Speculation / MOVED: US debt affect on Mt Gox account balance on: October 08, 2013, 09:20:23 AM
This topic has been moved to Economics.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307655.0
1087  Economy / Speculation / Re: Actual Bitcoin commerce vs. speculation on: October 07, 2013, 10:04:24 PM
Time to bump this thread.

We now know how much business Silk Road had. Is there any Bitcoin business we know of that is comparable?
Everytime I bump this thread, it's the same thing.

Noone can answer the question. Yet people deny Silk Road was Bitcoin's biggest business.
1088  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: October 07, 2013, 10:00:44 PM
Makes sense actually, it's about to fall off a cliff. Cheesy
1089  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 07, 2013, 09:59:40 PM
I don't think Bitcoin is moving quickly at all currently, and the volumes seem dreadfully low to me even if you factor in Bitstamp. Certainly compared to the bubble and its aftermath, we are in a lull. My guess is we can in part thank MtGox for it because it's holding most of the Bitcoin allocated speculative money hostage.

By the way, if this abysmally low volume continues for more weekdays, it may be attributable to the loss of Silk Road. It's only natural it would account for a lot of liquidity (especially in the smaller trades).
1090  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 07, 2013, 09:48:53 PM
If he has an edge (if) that allows him to sustainably gain purchasing power over time, then I don't see why he shouldn't trade. Buy and hold is risky too because you expose yourself to 100%. Successful trading will decrease your risk even though it's hard to outperform buy and hold for Bitcoin for profit, but this profit comes at a cost.

Most here haven't experienced the 2011 bear market where price went from 32 to 2. Risk management has its uses.
1091  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 07, 2013, 09:39:48 PM
Words have meanings.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/day-trading

Quote
a form of share dealing in which individuals buy and sell shares over the Internet over a period of a single day’s trading, with the intention of profiting from small price fluctuations.

But sure, it doesn't mean you have to trade every single day to be a day trader.

My point is that you can trade on a frame of weeks/months too.
1092  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 07, 2013, 09:26:41 PM
Swing trading maybe. It would probably be best to call it "trading" generally, because there are 2 large fractions here: those who trade at all and those who don't.
1093  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 07, 2013, 09:22:49 PM
It's funny how this forum only knows either day trading or holding forever.

If you don't normally trade daily, you are not a daytrader. Looking at the typically dull volumes, I doubt there are many day traders, maybe some small ones.
1094  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 07, 2013, 09:18:46 PM
Assuming he would actually hand over those 600k bitcoins. He'll be in jail for the rest of his life most likely, whether he hands over the coins or not.
Why wouldn't he?  Unless he's really stupid then those bitcoins are only part of his stash and he's got more in another account that the feds don't know about.
I think it's been established with how he got himself arrested that he is really stupid, though I'd label it careless.

Also, the feds have all the transactional data from the Silk Road server. They know exactly how much commission was earned in its lifetime.
1095  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 07, 2013, 08:41:46 PM
Yes, I hear there's a great market gap in online drug stores. Cheesy
1096  Economy / Speculation / Re: More stable with time on: October 07, 2013, 08:37:22 PM
The bottom was 50.01 on MtGox, so it's more than that. Furthermore, it happened in a much quicker timeframe than in 2011 (a few days vs. half a year), so I'd argue it was actually more volatile than before.

Yes, this is possible.
1097  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 07, 2013, 08:33:24 PM
Perhaps they are going after vendors and confiscating everything they find unencrypted?
1098  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 07, 2013, 08:09:53 PM
On the topic. If it's known that they manage to strike a deal with DPR on the >600k, the market would instantly go into Armaggedon as soon as it hears the news.
1099  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 07, 2013, 08:02:49 PM
Supermax for a skinny nerd who ran an illegal website... Seems logical they would only put Aryan supremacist/murderers/rapists in those kinds of prisons. Not some guy who ran an obscure online drugs marketplace.

Why does being an Aryan supremacist warrant supermax?

You equate bigotry to murder and rape?

Is it not possible for an Aryan supremacist to be a nonviolent noncriminal?
How about you go to Politics & Society to discuss this important issue?
1100  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 07, 2013, 04:17:05 AM
Go change your bitcointalk passwords just in case.
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