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221  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitscam pyramid total failure, bitcoin collapse! Kiss your money goodbye on: December 19, 2014, 02:14:38 AM
Worst thing about it?

It's you guys who keep responding to every single thread bumping it consistently to the very top, ensuring that he is successful. Some even have decided to mirror fallling and copypaste their own spam in every single one of his threads.

Congrats!
222  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2014, 10:34:37 PM
Agree with Wanderer. Guy is a megalomaniac who thinks he is in some heroic battle or something.
223  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2014, 06:16:59 PM
Meanwhile, Shroomsy's preferred asset is still in a 3 year bear market and on the verge of making new lows.
224  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2014, 06:09:03 PM
Unless you openly and clearly contradict yourself in your posts, a little bit of changing of tones when it's time to be a bear or a bull momentarily just adds to the fun of posting in these forums :-D
Agreed. I'd like to nominate fonzie here, I like his style. Cheesy

PS: Not only do we have cheap Bitcoins, but we also have cheap silver coins (hope you're happy with your pump and dump silver, Shroomsy).

CHEAP COINS!
225  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2014, 05:56:02 PM
Good news everyone!
The ruble seems to be doing a bit better.
Maybe Bitcoin will follow suit?

Maybe people are selling btc to buy ruble

The RUB/USD went up more than 10% in the past 24hrs, and BTC/USD went down what, over 5%? 
Basic math tells me it's not a bad bet Cheesy
Soon: Instead of Russians fleeing to BTC, we'll have Bitcoiners fleeing to Ruble.

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
226  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2014, 05:16:59 PM
316 fell, next horizontal support would be 275.

Out of curiosity Blitz: do you think 275 will hold? There has been a lot of talk about the 270ish level around here, and often it has been called 'the real bottom'. Given the flurry of bad bottom calls of the past 10 months or so I'm very sceptical about that, although there will likely be a major battle around that level. But what do you think?

Second: if 270-ish gets broken, do you expect Bitcoin to crumble down to the high 100's?
As for pure technical analysis, no real clue, sorry, I don't think there is a reasonable way to tell beforehand. It's one of those things where you've got to see it playing out, anything else will just lead to pouring your bias into the prediction.

But here's my bias based on psychology/sentiment: Pretty much the only thing that can calm holders nowaday is the notion that Bitcoin has never gone below the previous all time high in the following correction or bear market. Because of this, I think there are going to be a whole lot of "weak hands" in this area because it's so close to the 266 high.

Oh, as for what happens should we decisively break this level, I would definitely expect a flash crash at that point. Where that flash crash leads is extremely difficult to predict beforehand (that's the nature of a flash crash after all), but sub 200 is not out of the realm of possibility. It also really depends on the particular exchange in a super volatile environment.
227  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2014, 05:09:48 PM
316 fell, next horizontal support would be 275.

Getting closer to 1 billion market cap.

😈
228  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2014, 04:40:32 PM
[...]

Next time, go for Beanie Babies.

Bear troll mode on again, huh? Cheesy

Not that I disagree with what you say, but I do notice a change of tone between above and below...


Then why all the negativity, Torque? It was only created in 2009, and things have been going really well. In 2014 lots of good things have happened, same as in 2011 and 2012, despite (or because? Productivity might actually increase while prices decrease) the price decreases. Hell, look at the valuation of Coinbase at 400 million recently.

Shit's exploding, the price just exploded faster so it had to implode a little. Market always leads the economy.
I still agree with this post, just got to have some fun in the meantime. Cheesy

For over a year now I've been warning that bear markets can occur with TONS of positive news and people will chase the bull traps associated with them. I actually think that bear markets and lulls are the time when there's the highest productivity and most progress in Bitcoin.
229  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2014, 12:06:18 AM
this is bizarre, markets and currencies are crashing, there should be moves to bitcoin, gold etc.

Nope, that's only your flawed view. When generally safe things crash, people will not move to risky things, they will move to safer things such as gold, or solid currencies like USD or EUR to protect what they still have.
230  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 11:48:49 PM
In that case there's a good chance a vast number of current investors would leave for good, and price would deflate to level that seems laughably low right now... but then what? Others will pick it up from there, as long as there is the confidence that Bitcoin is useful for something after all. Cue the trolls: "It's about as useful as beanie babies or tulips". I don't need to tell you that's just noise. The usefulness of Bitcoin (or crypto in general) is undisputed. What is up for debate is the scale at which it will be used (and, as a consequence, what the valuation of the network should be).
Forgot to respond before, but Beanie Babies are actually more useful than Bitcoins IMO.

When I hold Bitcoin, I hide them in my cold wallet, too scared to even consider spending any because of the eternal public paper trail it leaves. It's already scary enough to securely handle cold storage considering all possible attack and data loss vectors, but at the same time, I have to be scared that they tremendously lose value again.

At least you can play with Beanie Babies, and some of them actually look nice. Plus, they're already worthless.





Next time, go for Beanie Babies.
231  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 11:00:43 PM
Some time ago, I've had a flashback to 2011. The next and final stage of the bear market began when difficulty began to decrease.

Oh, Blitz...  Thought this sort of thing was beneath you Tongue
I just had a flashback to this flashback. Difficulty is set to decrease again in 32 blocks.
232  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 10:50:06 PM
Don't worry, there's always a next auction with tens and hundreds of thousands of stolen BTC. The ultimate finale will be MtGox.
233  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 08:35:03 PM
Regardless of how much I hate Cripple, I have to concede that it's the only digital asset I've seen that isn't strictly correlated with Bitcoin, at least during this last period. And if this trend continued such that XRP price climbs beyond all time highs which were set long ago (priced in BTC), then it would actually become a danger for Bitcoin as an asset.

Thinking about all the people who "diversified" into other altcoins thinking it's a hedge, and I have to laugh. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
234  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wouldn't it be nice... (the LazyWhale algorithm) on: December 16, 2014, 08:29:35 PM
Nope, no signal change, and resolution is faster than daily. It's just a lagging method, both up and down.

But, yes, starting to look like a bad signal (i.e. sell at a loss). Will update if/when it happens, but looks like those who said not to trust parameters based on such a low number of trades were right.
I am always skeptical about magic solutions, but why would you infer that the paramaters are "faulty" for producing one bad signal? Is that not within the realm of possibility of it working satisfactorily?

Unless you backfitted the thing to purely produce the best fitting picture on the past charts (no idea if you did), that's obviously a bad idea.
235  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 08:25:28 PM
Why don't some of the industry big shots set up a bitcoin stabilization fund?
Probably too busy selling behind our backs and at the same time spreading Hopium in the media so it doesn't crash too quickly I'm afraid.

But I agree, there should be a fund dedicated to reinstalling Willy. Thinking about it, maybe they've implemented a reverse Willy, a Ylliw, in order to buy cheap coins? Shocked Shocked Shocked
236  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 08:09:08 PM
Great guys. You're cheerleading each downtrend like stupid and wonder why the people flock to the ripple scam.
Cheap coins are pretty nice though.
237  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 08:01:44 PM
Rust, communism, coke, santa, strawberries, cherries, fire, evening sun, crab.

This is ladies.
238  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: December 16, 2014, 07:51:07 PM
cypher, I just converted the Rubel price (on btc-e) to USD and found out it's nearly 10% lower than on the USD exchanges. What sort of arbitrage are you talking about?

this arbitrage will not stand:


239  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 07:45:15 PM
Hopefully now people will come to understand that this sort of "adoption" doesn't mean shit to create demand for BTC. It actually makes it worse by having Bitpay and Coinbase increase BTC sells.

Next time, listen to FUD (Facts U Dislike), not Hopium.
240  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2014, 07:34:47 PM
Really looks like that bitcoin failed as an experiment
For people like you who leverage 20x and take loans to buy BTC chasing their Hopium? Yes. For investors and traders, not so much IMO.

If you want a casino, you should go to an actual casino, or maybe try Ripple I guess.

care to explain how someone can do stupid things regardless of what happens next?
I cannot believe you do not understand this: It is stupid to increase your slippage cost, reduce your execution chances and increase your counter-party exposure by selling only on one single exchange. It does not matter what followed after. And in his case, the price actually rose for months afterwards, and he sold at the bottom. Had he had a modicum of sense execution wise and technicals wise, he'd have done much better.

Also, I don't believe he has another 30k because the way he sold showed that he was in a rush, for whatever reason. I'm sure you agree.


you didnt answer my question really and again are questioning his trading methods.

but you said that he was stupid to sell regardless of what happens next and I am asking to you what happens if price crashes to sub 100?
But I am questioning his execution (methods) primarily. He was unsophisticated on that front. Thus, I infer from his trading inexperience that the most likely reason for his rush was just panic. And of course when you act on emotional signals, you have a good chance of picking a bad time to sell, like he did. If the price goes double digits, it'll still have been bad execution and bad timing at that point in time. Maybe you disagree. Then I agree to disagree. Cheesy
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