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601  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#2] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! United States of America! on: April 28, 2013, 11:54:02 AM
2013-04-28: 2nd batch has ~6300 chips left
602  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: April 28, 2013, 11:51:39 AM
OP/ragingazn :

Please share your whereabouts with the people emailing you their private information. I would like to know who I am dealing with. Please reciprocate with your real name (full), address and phone number which can be reached.

I will send you an email as well.

Again guys I have been 100% compliant the entire time. When you buy something do you give out your name / address / phone? What do I plan to do with your email and phone?

Before shipping out I would like to give you a call and send you a PM so you can confirm that it is the correct address. This will provide with more security for your delivery. What if someone pretended to be you and sent me an email with their information trying to steal your chips and I didn't verify with you over the phone and PM?

Again if you run into any trouble with me, JohnK is bound to give you all my personal info.

No need to worry. If you do not wish to give away your name / phone number. That is fine. You can take the risk of losing your chips.
603  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! CLOSED!!! on: April 28, 2013, 12:10:46 AM
We're order #10129 .  Grin

NICE work JOHNK....

That will do.... that will do.




Thanks - whew. For 1.5%, the workload is crazy.

$1800 for 11 days worth of work ain't that bad ;p

The workload for John was pretty high. Not trying to be curt, but he really carried this thing. Your part will come (the shipping part), and then you'll be able to decide whether it was worth your share of the work as well. The only person who can determine whether the amount of work he put was worth the reward is John. He says it ain't worth it, I believe him. I will personally be sending a significant tip as soon as I'm able to start mining with these chips and generating some bitcoin, and I will be sending a meaningful tip to those involved.

John says it should've been another 1% minimum to make it worth his time. I'll personally be sending an additional 15%-20% in tips, when I'm in a position to do so, since what John did was WAAAY more than those assholes at Paypal or Bitinstant do, and they're taking 2.5% and 4% off the top, respectively, and screwing customers over left and right... John offered WAAAAY more service, and didn't screw anybody.

John has also effectively earned my escrow business for life, and I'll refer others to him as well. Wink

Agreed 100% Smiley JohnK is awesome!
604  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: April 27, 2013, 09:27:39 PM
What's the expected weight anyone know?
605  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DIY PCB with AVALON - [OP Makeover - Forming List of Developers] on: April 27, 2013, 08:34:23 PM
Hey there,

I've been organizing group buys for Avalon Asics. Let me know how I can be of service! I am also forming a team locally in my state to pursue the Asics project. Let me know if I can help somehow Smiley
606  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: April 27, 2013, 08:31:10 PM
If I send you my info now, can I change the ship to address later once I have decided where to have the miners assembled?

Of course!
607  Other / Meta / Anyone else think John K is awesome? on: April 27, 2013, 07:57:41 PM
<3
608  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: April 27, 2013, 07:47:22 PM
Without further a due please email the following to avalonasics@gmail.com

*Note for Address please include as much detail as possible and make it accurate as much as possible.

Username:
Real Name:
Address:
Phone Number:
Email:
Other Info:

P.S Post here after you sent the info so I can verify that it's actually you and not anyone else trying to steal your chips!

Why do you need shipping info so soon? I was hoping you would ship directly to an assembly service (like burnin) but none are accepting orders yet. It's going to take at least two months for you to receive the chips. What's the hurry?

Organization takes time. Might as well start now. Would you rather not see me for a few more weeks? Wink

From now til Avalon Ships it's a good idea to start brainstorming and organizing shipment.
609  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: April 27, 2013, 07:30:11 PM
Info sent. Can we have the option of using USPS for Canadian orders?

Yes we can do USPS for US and Canada Smiley I think it will be the cheapest and fastest way to ship. FYI if you want your chips to ship next day or 2 days then let me know asap or all shipment will be standard 2-3 days from usps priority.
610  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: April 27, 2013, 07:13:06 PM
Without further a due please email the following to avalonasics@gmail.com

*Note for Address please include as much detail as possible and make it accurate as much as possible.

Username:
Real Name:
Address:
Phone Number:
Email:
Other Info:

P.S Post here after you sent the info so I can verify that it's actually you and not anyone else trying to steal your chips!
611  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: April 27, 2013, 06:58:19 PM
So we email you with our shipping information, but are we going to have the PCB option?

PCB is a possibility. Nothing concrete right now.

To put it in words. Burnin's project is much ahead of us right now Wink

Avalon will release their sources though.



Also if you haven't sent me shipping info please do it now to avalonasics@gmail.com

*Note for Address please include as much detail as possible and make it accurate as much as possible.

Username:
Real Name:
Address:
Phone Number:
Email:
Other Info:

Let's clarify the fees for individual shipping and what you guys will be responsible for:

Everyone is responsible for the following:
  • Import Customs Fees (divided among all 79 investors)
  • Shipping will be via UPS (closest to me - not sure if cheapest, can be changed based on interest of the group)
  • Shipping Costs to your location. For this I can do COD (Cash On Delivery - you pay the shipping price when the item gets to you)
  • Shipping Supplies (I will buy in bulk divided among all 79 investors) - We are not sure how big the chips are, how will Avalon ship 10,000 chips?
  • I will declare the customs fees when we ship next to nothing so you don't have to pay high import fees for your country.
  • Your shipment will be weighted on how much BTC you have contributed and when you sent the BTC.

Just to clarify, we're dividing customs fees by INVESTORS and not by chips? So a guy who ordered 20 chips is going to pay 1/79th of the customs, while a guy who ordered 1000 chips also pays 1/79th?

Shouldn't it be that you pay a percentage of the customs fees, based on what percentage of the order belongs to you? Customs on $100,000+ worth of chips is gonna be steep. For somebody who ordered maybe 10 chips, their customs bill could end up being more than their chips cost!  Shocked

I agree, the portion of fees to be paid by each one shall be proportional to the number of chips ordered.
The formula to calculate it is easy: (Total Fees)*(chips ordered)/10,000

Otherwise it would be unfair.



Done. I will be doing that for the Import Fees

if you haven't sent me shipping info please do it now to avalonasics@gmail.com

*Note for Address please include as much detail as possible and make it accurate as much as possible.

Username:
Real Name:
Address:
Phone Number:
Email:
Other Info:

Let's clarify the fees for individual shipping and what you guys will be responsible for:

Everyone is responsible for the following:
  • Import Customs Fees (Will be based on how many chips you bought Fees * #chips/10000 )
  • Shipping will be via UPS (closest to me - not sure if cheapest, can be changed based on interest of the group) For US people we can use USPS - cheap/fast/secured
  • Shipping Costs to your location. For this I can do COD (Cash On Delivery - you pay the shipping price when the item gets to you)
  • Shipping Supplies (I will buy in bulk divided among all 79 investors) - We are not sure how big the chips are, how will Avalon ship 10,000 chips?
  • I will declare the customs fees when we ship next to nothing so you don't have to pay high import fees for your country.
  • Your shipment will be weighted on how much BTC you have contributed and when you sent the BTC.


When you reorganized the spreadsheet, overpayment information was not reorganized with paid amount.  The overpayments were originally intended for shipping but it might be best to return them now since you plan to do most shipping COD (cash on delivery).  Can you revert the overpayment information to the correct line for each person who overpaid? Thanks!

Yup I will message JohnK
612  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: April 27, 2013, 06:09:11 PM
So we email you with our shipping information, but are we going to have the PCB option?

PCB is a possibility. Nothing concrete right now.

To put it in words. Burnin's project is much ahead of us right now Wink

Avalon will release their sources though.



Also if you haven't sent me shipping info please do it now to avalonasics@gmail.com

*Note for Address please include as much detail as possible and make it accurate as much as possible.

Username:
Real Name:
Address:
Phone Number:
Email:
Other Info:

Let's clarify the fees for individual shipping and what you guys will be responsible for:

Everyone is responsible for the following:
  • Import Customs Fees (divided among all 79 investors)
  • Shipping will be via UPS (closest to me - not sure if cheapest, can be changed based on interest of the group)
  • Shipping Costs to your location. For this I can do COD (Cash On Delivery - you pay the shipping price when the item gets to you)
  • Shipping Supplies (I will buy in bulk divided among all 79 investors) - We are not sure how big the chips are, how will Avalon ship 10,000 chips?
  • I will declare the customs fees when we ship next to nothing so you don't have to pay high import fees for your country.
  • Your shipment will be weighted on how much BTC you have contributed and when you sent the BTC.

Just to clarify, we're dividing customs fees by INVESTORS and not by chips? So a guy who ordered 20 chips is going to pay 1/79th of the customs, while a guy who ordered 1000 chips also pays 1/79th?

Shouldn't it be that you pay a percentage of the customs fees, based on what percentage of the order belongs to you? Customs on $100,000+ worth of chips is gonna be steep. For somebody who ordered maybe 10 chips, their customs bill could end up being more than their chips cost!  Shocked

I agree, the portion of fees to be paid by each one shall be proportional to the number of chips ordered.
The formula to calculate it is easy: (Total Fees)*(chips ordered)/10,000

Otherwise it would be unfair.



Done. I will be doing that for the Import Fees

if you haven't sent me shipping info please do it now to avalonasics@gmail.com

*Note for Address please include as much detail as possible and make it accurate as much as possible.

Username:
Real Name:
Address:
Phone Number:
Email:
Other Info:

Let's clarify the fees for individual shipping and what you guys will be responsible for:

Everyone is responsible for the following:
  • Import Customs Fees (Will be based on how many chips you bought Fees * #chips/10000 )
  • Shipping will be via UPS (closest to me - not sure if cheapest, can be changed based on interest of the group) For US people we can use USPS - cheap/fast/secured
  • Shipping Costs to your location. For this I can do COD (Cash On Delivery - you pay the shipping price when the item gets to you)
  • Shipping Supplies (I will buy in bulk divided among all 79 investors) - We are not sure how big the chips are, how will Avalon ship 10,000 chips?
  • I will declare the customs fees when we ship next to nothing so you don't have to pay high import fees for your country.
  • Your shipment will be weighted on how much BTC you have contributed and when you sent the BTC.
613  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: April 27, 2013, 05:57:01 PM
So we email you with our shipping information, but are we going to have the PCB option?

PCB is a possibility. Nothing concrete right now.

To put it in words. Burnin's project is much ahead of us right now Wink

Avalon will release their sources though.



Also if you haven't sent me shipping info please do it now to avalonasics@gmail.com

*Note for Address please include as much detail as possible and make it accurate as much as possible.

Username:
Real Name:
Address:
Phone Number:
Email:
Other Info:

Let's clarify the fees for individual shipping and what you guys will be responsible for:

Everyone is responsible for the following:
  • Import Customs Fees (divided among all 79 investors)
  • Shipping will be via UPS (closest to me - not sure if cheapest, can be changed based on interest of the group)
  • Shipping Costs to your location. For this I can do COD (Cash On Delivery - you pay the shipping price when the item gets to you)
  • Shipping Supplies (I will buy in bulk divided among all 79 investors) - We are not sure how big the chips are, how will Avalon ship 10,000 chips?
  • I will declare the customs fees when we ship next to nothing so you don't have to pay high import fees for your country.
  • Your shipment will be weighted on how much BTC you have contributed and when you sent the BTC.

Just to clarify, we're dividing customs fees by INVESTORS and not by chips? So a guy who ordered 20 chips is going to pay 1/79th of the customs, while a guy who ordered 1000 chips also pays 1/79th?

Shouldn't it be that you pay a percentage of the customs fees, based on what percentage of the order belongs to you? Customs on $100,000+ worth of chips is gonna be steep. For somebody who ordered maybe 10 chips, their customs bill could end up being more than their chips cost!  Shocked

Ok sounds like a plan. You're right but I read:

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/810/~/other-taxes-or-fees-required-to-import-goods-into-the-u.s.,-other-than-duty

Max is $485? Can someone verify this?

But does Avalon declare their value for $100k? Just because they're selling the chips for $100k+ doesn't mean it's worth $100k in MATERIAL no?

I know I sold my Mars II for about $3000 and I only declared $1000
614  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: April 27, 2013, 05:39:02 PM
So we email you with our shipping information, but are we going to have the PCB option?

PCB is a possibility. Nothing concrete right now.

To put it in words. Burnin's project is much ahead of us right now Wink

Avalon will release their sources though.



Also if you haven't sent me shipping info please do it now to avalonasics@gmail.com

*Note for Address please include as much detail as possible and make it accurate as much as possible.

Username:
Real Name:
Address:
Phone Number:
Email:
Other Info:

Let's clarify the fees for individual shipping and what you guys will be responsible for:

Everyone is responsible for the following:
  • Import Customs Fees (divided among all 79 investors will be based on how many chips you bought)
  • Shipping will be via UPS (closest to me - not sure if cheapest, can be changed based on interest of the group) For US people we can use USPS - cheap/fast/secured
  • Shipping Costs to your location. For this I can do COD (Cash On Delivery - you pay the shipping price when the item gets to you)
  • Shipping Supplies (I will buy in bulk divided among all 79 investors) - We are not sure how big the chips are, how will Avalon ship 10,000 chips?
  • I will declare the customs fees when we ship next to nothing so you don't have to pay high import fees for your country.
  • Your shipment will be weighted on how much BTC you have contributed and when you sent the BTC.
615  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! CLOSED!!! on: April 27, 2013, 05:17:36 PM
We're order #10129 .  Grin

NICE work JOHNK....

That will do.... that will do.




Thanks - whew. For 1.5%, the workload is crazy.

$1800 for 11 days worth of work ain't that bad ;p
616  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! CLOSED!!! on: April 27, 2013, 05:12:58 PM
If you missed out on this group buy please contribute in the 2nd group buy here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189220.new#new
617  Bitcoin / Group buys / [Group Buy#2] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! 1 chip = .078BTC = 282Mhash! on: April 27, 2013, 05:12:17 PM
Starting Group Buy #2.

Group Buy #2 Spread Sheet

http://store.avalon-asics.com/?page_id=9605

Please post questions about Group Buy#1 here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994

This thread will be separate for group 2!

Product Description
  • the only payment accepted is Bitcoin.
  • the chips being sold are packaged and tested.
  • the lead time on the chips is 9 to 10 weeks.
  • made to order from TSMC foundry and then packaged and shipped.
  • the minimum order quantity is 10,000 chips and the maximum order quantity is 200,000.
  • the chips are identical to those in Avalon, clocking 282Mh/s per chip.
  • the password is “I understand and agree”.
  • communication protocol, reference board design provided in early May.
  • everything will be open source from FPGA to PCB design.
  • we do not offer technical support of any kind, this is final.
  • if you do not know what to do with the packaged chips, please do not purchase.

Status Updates:
2013-04-28: 2nd batch has ~6300 chips left
2013-04-27: 1st batch ordered, 2nd batch has ~6800 chips left

Order Status
Code:
#10129 April 27, 2013 Chips ordered ฿782.10 for 1 item

Remainder
Only send payments from an address you control (i.e. you can sign with it). If you send from MtGox or other exchanges, you risk loosing your funds since you can't prove you sent them.

How to sign:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179769.msg1922342#msg1922342

Policy update: Refunds
Your orders are binding after your funds have been used to pay for a batch. Before that (while coins are piling up for the next batch), you can demand for a refund and will get it paid back in full. Note that after you got refunded, I will not accept future orders from you (to prevent free risk-offloading to me).


Terms:

  • Total BTC PER order is 782.1 BTC (Before fees)!
  • The final 2.1 BTC shipping price will be divided by how many ever people are buying the chips - so if 20 then 2.1/20 and will be added to your contribution! It is currently set to 0.0525 (divided by 40 people) - I will refund any extra and if we go over I will cover the rest to save everyone a headache of sending more!
  • Minimum BTC required to invest is 1BTC! Which equates to about 12 Chips! Each Chip costs 0.078BTC
  • You will be responsible for paying your own individual shipping when the ship arrives in the US (Connecticut)
  • Chips will be shipped as soon as they arrived (if time/weather allows) and as soon as I know the address that they're going to.
  • Individual Shipping will be required to have tracking! Individual also include custom fees!
  • In order to provide the best protection for your investments I will buy packing supplies to make 100% sure your product isn't damaged during the shipment.
  • There will be a 5% fee for organizing this group buy and shipping out individually to contributors. It takes time to keep track of everything. Takes gas to drive back and forth to ship out. Etc.
  • BTC will be sent to this address: 1Q429SRTE6wRiXfThyABoyfU7Eygc3qaBF
  • Before sending please confirm with me so I can tell you how much to send.
  • All chips amount will be realistically rounded down. If you want your amount to be rounded to the next number use the Chip Calculator in the spreadsheet.

Shipment
The chips will be forwarded to you as soon as I receive them and you paid the fiat component mentioned above. Delivery within USA will usually take less than a week; overseas will take what it takes. You will be given the option to select shipment method on time and resolve custom specific issues.

Trust
JohnK has confirmed and verified all my identifications and shipping address destination from utility bills - so you can feel safe in this group buy.

Group Buy#1 I have been 100% compliant with any requests so I will do the same for this group buy and for future batches Smiley

Communication
I live in CT, USA Eastern Standard Times. I work at home so most PMs and replies to the thread will be answered shortly. I do require 6-8 hours of sleep so if I am not here please don't be discouraged Wink





Who should buy and who should not
You can order chips either if you plan to develop your own mining board, or want to buy a ready-to-mine assembled from other developers / manufacturers. In the latter case, with your order you secure the chips from the current batch and decide where to send them for assembly when they arrive.

Escrow
I did not offer escrow for a simple reason: as soon as the payments fill up to 782.1 BTC, I'll order another batch. No idea how long the chips will be in stock, but I would like to act fast. The first group had a few delays because I took pledges first and when those pledges filled I proceeded to collect the funds. And by doing that it caused delays because over 300+ BTC pledged were pulled out. So I will NOT be taking pledges. You must have BTC in hand to participate.

Reservation, Payments
This is a first come first serve group buy. Only participate if you have BTC on hand!

Extras:
I am also currently working on an ASICs project with the local engineers in my state. I will keep everyone updated on how far we will proceed. We do not have anything concrete yet, just getting our feet wet. Who knows, some people might want their chips to be made into a mining machine.
618  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! CLOSED!!! on: April 27, 2013, 05:05:17 PM
Screenshot of the order confirmation page sent to OP. Whew, this is finally done.  Grin

Nights guys.

Good night JohnK thanks again for everything. You did a great job!

Special thanks again to people who helped with this batch. Especially nebiz for the revamp of the spreadsheet <3
619  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! CLOSED!!! on: April 27, 2013, 04:50:25 PM
I am glad that  user 'mutex' was quick enough to join the party at the last moment.

ragingazn628,

Please, combine our ('hardlock' + 'mutex' ) orders to be delivered to the same address (the address  pointed by 'mutex').

Thank you!

yes I can confirm but please send me your info via that email too for verification purposes etc.

Alright guys. I will be start taking your individual shipping addresses for this order. We will do it email style so it will be much easier for me to keep track. Depending where you are located in the world I will do my best to give you an estimate for the shipping based on how many chips you bought. Also remember how much BTC you contributed to the group and how fast you sent the BTC to escrow will be weighted in when I do shipping etc. That is why I am making a list now.

Without further a due please email the following to avalonasics@gmail.com

*Note for Address please include as much detail as possible and make it accurate as much as possible.

Username:
Real Name:
Address:
Phone Number:
Email:
Other Info:
620  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! CLOSED!!! on: April 27, 2013, 04:47:26 PM
Quote
Order #10129 made on April 27, 2013. Order status: processing.
Awesome - everything is set. OP, please expect the package soon.  Grin

SOON XD at least 9-10 weeks.

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