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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario
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on: October 11, 2012, 08:29:49 PM
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Since BitcoinGlobal partners refuse to remove Nefario from its CEO position
Not exactly accurate. We didn't refuse to remove Nefario, we were unable to do so. He owns 24% of the shares, and he had two other supporters. Not that it matters, he made it clear that he would continue with his plan to shut down GLBSE even if we removed him as CEO. |
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Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: colored bitcoins/distributed exchanges proof-of-concept
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on: October 10, 2012, 05:39:45 PM
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pybond follows the distributed bond design laid out in that post -- including the P2P and DHT bits. I am thinking there will be a third component as well: P2P network will permit traders to advertise "coordination points", a single address where traders may connect for high-speed trading between themselves. These coordination points may be created or destroyed at any time, and are self-organizing among participants. That's really clever, Jeff. I might describe that as P2P with voluntary, spontaneous federalization. |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario
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on: October 10, 2012, 05:21:09 PM
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He definitely could have closed the exchange a bit more gracefully, but according to him, he doesn't want to hold the high amount of liability he has attained any longer.
The shareholders offered Nefario the option of stepping down as CEO and selling his shares back to us, but he refused. So it's not just that he doesn't want to hot the high amount of liability he has attained (of his own volition) any longer. |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario
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on: October 09, 2012, 07:48:48 PM
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My understanding is based upon the most recent email from the secretary.
The motion was: [05/10/2012 18:32:35] <nefario> I propose a motion to have theymos return the user BTC which has in his posstion for the purpose of allowing me to repay users So I sent CHM only the amount of BTC designated as user funds. I still hold the operating funds. Ok, that makes sense. CHM's email was confusing, then. |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario
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on: October 09, 2012, 07:44:36 PM
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The address is: 18bEUAuzWg97swzHXzK4prGGYSBAMCUgz
theymos: If you feel that is a secure address, then send away.
Nefario: Note that this means all of BG's operating funds are in my
hands once they arrive at that address. If you spend any of the BTC
you are holding, you are spending client funds. While I now realize
you really don't care about the proprieties of that, I hope you will
at least try and do the right thing. In addition, this was the beginning of the email Nefario now seems to believe that if I'm not willing to take receipt
of the funds theymos holds I need to resign my position as
Secretary/Accountant.
As I don't really feel that's fair to the rest of you, I'm not going
to do that. All I'm really concerned with at this point is client
funds being returned, and if Nefario feels he can somehow use my
reluctance to hold these funds as an excuse to delay that, I'm forced
to take possession of them. So now you are admitting to lying again, that Nefario does in fact have the coins now and not the secretary(ColdHardMetal)? I've added emphasis to assist with your understanding of my statement. |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario
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on: October 09, 2012, 07:42:35 PM
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Not have lying scammy fucks like you and some person you refuse to disclose (ColdHardMetal) have control of them so they can get hidden somewhere. You are getting caught up in your own bullshit lies like crazy. Who was lying, you or Theymos? Are the funds user funds or operational funds?
At least if they stat put there is some accountability and Theymos who I thought was legit(until developments of today) could try and prove himself as legit.
Man, you need to chill the fuck out. I've been providing information that some would probably prefer to be kept between shareholders, and in response all I get is shit from you? Welcome to the ignore list, my friend. You're in good company. |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario
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on: October 09, 2012, 07:38:32 PM
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And I call fucking bullshit, Theymos said the funds are "anonymous user funds" they are not operating expenses and shareholder funds.
My understanding is based upon the most recent email from the secretary. The address is: 18bEUAuzWg97swzHXzK4prGGYSBAMCUgz
theymos: If you feel that is a secure address, then send away.
Nefario: Note that this means all of BG's operating funds are in my
hands once they arrive at that address. If you spend any of the BTC
you are holding, you are spending client funds. While I now realize
you really don't care about the proprieties of that, I hope you will
at least try and do the right thing. In addition, this was the beginning of the email Nefario now seems to believe that if I'm not willing to take receipt
of the funds theymos holds I need to resign my position as
Secretary/Accountant.
As I don't really feel that's fair to the rest of you, I'm not going
to do that. All I'm really concerned with at this point is client
funds being returned, and if Nefario feels he can somehow use my
reluctance to hold these funds as an excuse to delay that, I'm forced
to take possession of them. |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario
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on: October 09, 2012, 07:36:47 PM
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Why would he need operating income for a site thats been SHUTDOWN??
As far an I am concerned, it doesn't matter what the funds were labeled, he has stolen more than enough bitcoins to make up for his operating funds balance, that balance is the only bitcoin that is touchable as of right now by the owners of glbse and the way I see it is glbse owes a lot of people money right now, that should be distributed properly among the people who glbse owes money to.
So, what would you prefer be done with those funds? Theymos keep them and be liable for distributing them back to customers without any information about balances? |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario
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on: October 09, 2012, 07:24:49 PM
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See, the problem with this is you guys are knowingly transferring stolen funds to people who you are not willing to disclose, you should all get scammer tags, this forum is full of crooks and it appears to be run by a crook also.
Actually, the funds transferred were BG's operating funds (shareholder investments and operating income). Nefario already has all of the client funds. |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario
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on: October 09, 2012, 06:59:22 PM
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Who exactly is BG's secretary? Do they have a name on the forum, do they have a real name and public identity? At this point I believe this should all be transparent given the circumstances.
I'm not comfortable revealing information about BitcoinGlobal shareholders which have not self identified, sorry. |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario
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on: October 09, 2012, 06:53:46 PM
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Must not have been these funds. May we have the public address of said paper wallet please, so that we may keep an eye on them? I don't see any reason why this cannot be released. 18bEUAuzWg97swzHXzK4prGGYSBAMCUgz The funds tied to that address are now in control of BG's secretary. Which is bullshit, why send ~800btc more to be controlled by Nefario when he already has ~8000btc of illegally obtained funds?
What will giving Nefario ~800btc more do that he couldn't have done with the ~8000btc?
As I said, the funds were sent to the secretary, not Nefario. He only accepted them reluctantly (rather than have Theymos keep them) so that Nefario would have no reason to not begin dispersing customer funds. |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario
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on: October 09, 2012, 06:38:06 PM
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Someone followed the btc-trail through addresses? So we maybe can see where the money is lying and if it is moved.
What about that talk of a "paper wallet" yesterday? What do you know about that, bitcoin.me? Seemingly you know more than most of us. Please share. A paper wallet has been generated and all outstanding funds should be going there soon.
The secretary (not Nefario), to whom Theymos was instructed (by a narrow majority of shareholders [keep in mind that Nefario owns 24% of shares]) to send the funds under his control, asked other shareholders for advice on how to secure the funds, not wanting to risk them being stolen on top of everything else. I suggested that he create a paper wallet offline, for safe keeping until the funds could be distributed to users. Theymos sent the funds to the address under the secretary's control earlier today. |
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Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Negative balance
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on: October 09, 2012, 05:32:48 AM
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access to my -0.0005 BTC So, is negative balance possible in LocalBitcoins wallet? I'm guessing that this could occur when you transfer your entire balance to another address, and they charge you the transaction fee. |
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario
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on: October 08, 2012, 02:04:23 PM
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He's not in custody, he's logged in to the forum and has been responding to emails (and phone calls apparently).
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Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: With GLBSE gone, we can start fresh on new lands.
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on: October 07, 2012, 06:34:11 PM
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The Rock has a platform capable to handle Bitcoin Companies.
It is just enough to ask your companies to move at our exchange and you’ll be able to freely trade again 24/7.
We are small but been around since 2007 in the virtual worlds.
Please, check our site at: www.therockexchange.com
Thank you! In what way(s) are no you susceptible to a situation similar to that which has occurred to GLBSE, namely coercion by state authorities? |
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