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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Guy on twitter claims he is working on hash method without brute force.
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on: May 30, 2011, 05:10:28 PM
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Looking at how he "thinks" his solution will work, He doesn't understand the concept of destructive operations. Think of it this way: The simplest hash function is %2. Basically, given any input, find the remainder after you divide by 2. It simplifies things down to a keyspace of 1 bit, and obviously there's lots of collisions. However, given that information, there's no way to go backwards to the original number. If I say the "hash" is 1, it could be 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, etc.
SHA256 has the following destructive operations: 6x non-carrying addition Shift right I believe the combination of ANDs and XORs ends up being destructive.
That's just in one iteration, and there are 64 iterations per hash.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does CPU mining contribute anything to bitcoin network or economy?
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on: May 30, 2011, 05:14:22 AM
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Right, but it must be made clear that it's the act of solving a block that strengthens the network, not the CPU power used when attempting to solve it in the first place.
Technically, the CPU power used when attempting to solve a block keeps it competitive. THAT'S the value you add when you don't solve a block. Which is ridiculously low when CPU mining.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin v2.0
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on: May 29, 2011, 03:54:52 PM
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@Quantumplation - for your information i work in IT and i UNDERSTAND how the system works, i am just not a good writer. Technical side is not a problem and i NEVER considered mining here as scam. Read more carefully please, or ask if i wrote that in not understandable way. Mining will be always good to keep system working,
Mining is just an good advertisement for the network  'MONEY for NOTHING' ? that's how 90% of the miners work. Idea had to be spreaded somehow and it's working this way. Good. There was NO other option. But early adopters will be rich and any of the last adopters will need to work for them JUST like that?? Thats NOT good. This can be a killer for Bitcoins. Nice way to backtrack. As for your argument against my English, the point of language is to communicate. If my sentences communicate my ideas cogently and concisely, then I consider it to be good English. Excessive perfection of grammar and spelling is only something for uptight literature snobs to occupy themselves with. You, however, are having difficulty both communicating your ideas and understanding the points that everyone else in this forum puts forward. THAT is poor English, not misconjugating a negative gerund or misplacing an apostrophe at 3:30am. 
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin v2.0
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on: May 29, 2011, 07:26:14 AM
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It seems like people like this have been cropping up since bitcoin began. I remember a year ago having almost the exact same discussion with someone (even back then, when bitcoins were just barely worth more than the electricity it took to mint them, and everything was done on the CPU's and kilahashes.) They all have a few similar features. 1) Very Poor English. I think this leads to a lot of friction for them learning about how the system ACTUALLY works, for communicating their ideas well, or from considering the points that people rebuttle with. 2) A fundemental misunderstanding of economics/bitcoin. "mining" being a scam? The Mining is what holds the whole system together, what makes it cryptographically secure and worthwhile to begin with. Maybe if you understood the whitepaper, or read a bit of the code, or took 30 seconds to think about WHY these choices were made, you'd understand that. 3) An unending, unquavering, unpersuadable attitude towards "the bitcoin doomsday" or "the Great Unjustice". I wonder if Bitcoin, due to it's complicated nature, is doomed to be perpetually fraught with these "Throughput"s? (Have a read of http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=547.0 for a good laugh.)
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Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: handling block branches
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on: May 27, 2011, 12:10:27 AM
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All of the miners in Mexico will put the transactions in their old chain back into the transaction queue once they switch chains.
Almost, but one minor caveat: The group with more people/miners would be accepted as the proper block chain. If mexico had more users in their network than the US (given the relative sizes of the countries, I doubt it) then it would be the US transactions that would need to be re-validated.
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