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341  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi's spare change? on: May 26, 2011, 05:45:15 AM
I think you're all missing the point.  There hasn't been this lopsided holding of equity since kings.  2% holding 50% of the wealth is far more desirable than 0.00000002% holding 25%.  I know you can all do the math.

This situation is a despot megalomaniacs wet dream.  Never in the history of human kind has one person controlled 25% of the economy.

I think we all WANT to believe that Satoshi is some humble quite person who only wants his bitcoins to go to helping poor kids down on their luck, but maybe, just maybe Satoshi gets corrupted (power corrupts), the point being is that there is tremendous amounts of risk piled into this one person.

I do think early adopters should be rewarded and this isn't some sort of jealousy thing.

Think of it this way.  If you want to believe that one day btc could represent the financial foundation of the world economy, then be VERY afraid of the person who controls 25% of it.

I think YOU'RE missing the point.

Tell me, what sinister things can he do with this 20% of bitcoins?  They don't grant power over your money.  They don't grant super powers.  Bitcoins, in and of themselves, are absolutely useless.  I could control 99.9999% of the economy, and they themselves would be useless.  I can't use them to alter the block-chain.  I can't use them to kill your unborn children or force you into slavery.  The worst I can do with them is spend them on some commodity, (and it's not like there are bitcoin-hitmen out there) or exchange them for another currency, which is limited by peoples willingness to do so.
342  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Re: Gigabyte 5870 35btc on: May 23, 2011, 03:04:12 AM
What kind of hashing performance were you getting with that specific card?
343  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: The network just hit 40 PetaFLOPS! on: May 22, 2011, 11:17:12 PM
What else would you measure it in?

... Hashes per second?  1 FLOP is Float Operation, and there are many float operations per hash, so it's kind of a misleading unit of measurement when talking about network performance.
344  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Embedable Javascript Bitcoin miner for your website on: May 22, 2011, 07:23:37 PM
I've not been able to log in for a while, thought it was just a lack of implemented control console.
qrebound@gmail.com
345  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GUI mining - now with BFI_INT optimization on: May 21, 2011, 09:33:16 PM

Remember, if you're making money with this miner you should send me even 0.1 Bitcoin. The previous release got over 12,000 downloads and my total donations over that period were under 9 BTC, so I know you guys can do better Smiley


I'll donate a tiny percentage each time I reach my payout threshold. Smiley
346  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GUI mining - now with BFI_INT optimization on: May 21, 2011, 08:56:39 PM
Got it solved, thanks. =)

Just required a driver update.

EDIT:

So, I'm getting roughly 6 MHash/s on my Quadro FX 770M.  Is this normal? ( couldn't find it in the comparison thread... )
347  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GUI mining - now with BFI_INT optimization on: May 21, 2011, 08:37:31 PM
Update:

So I found out I have an OpenCL video card and didn't know it, but the GUI is reporting that I don't.  Also, I tried running poclbm.exe directly, and got this error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "poclbm.py", line 3, in <module>
  File "pyopencl\__init__.pyo", line 3, in <module>
  File "pyopencl\_cl.pyo", line 12, in <module>
  File "pyopencl\_cl.pyo", line 10, in __load
ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified procedure could not be found.

Just updated to the latest version of python, still no dice.
348  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GUI mining - now with BFI_INT optimization on: May 21, 2011, 02:36:27 AM
The password is right, (compared it in the console), and it was working fine on another computer I configured it on (different network, so maybe that's the problem...).  Does the program require any connectback functionality?  I can telnet out to port 8882, but if it's trying to connect to me on any port, that's going to be a problem.
349  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GUI mining - now with BFI_INT optimization on: May 21, 2011, 01:19:44 AM
Hey, haven't read through all 23 pages, but is there a known issue with being stuck as perpetually "connecting..."?  just doing CPU mining (sadly no OpenCL GPU here...) and it's just perpetually stuck "Connecting...".
350  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Wolf Game, Day 1 on: August 05, 2010, 05:41:42 PM
Jeez, why so hostile? =(
351  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Wolf Game, Day 1 on: August 05, 2010, 03:26:15 PM
Hiding?  I'm right here, how is that hiding.  You seem pretty eager to blame someone else...
352  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Wolf Game, Day 1 on: August 04, 2010, 03:41:44 AM
So would say a wolf when cornered... *glare*
353  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Wolf Game, Day 1 on: August 04, 2010, 01:58:30 AM
Me?!  Kiba was the first on scene.... Who's to say he didn't kill him, and shout for us to belay suspicion of himself?
354  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin that really decentralized, as you believe? on: August 02, 2010, 05:31:08 PM
You guys are still arguing with this buffoon?

He's arguing that the system should be secure even if the majority of people are compromised.  There's no way to control that.  If over half the people in the entire US economy conspired to specifically thwart the others, they would succeed.  If over half the computers coordinated to falsify the internet, they would most likely succeed.  But, if you control over half the internet, what's the point of subverting it?

This very fact is what MAKES it decentralized:  The majority controls the system, not some subset/minority of the population.  Not even to mention the fact that 51% would probably be insufficient to overpower the system convincingly, as it's still dependent on luck.
355  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Panhandling on: July 30, 2010, 03:18:47 PM
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Somewhere an english teacher is crying.

Some English teacher be crying,
and our limericks she is decrying,
and while they are sad,
(some even quite bad),
we will never, ever stop trying.
356  Other / Off-topic / Re: Good anti-virus tool ? on: July 30, 2010, 01:28:52 PM
=/ I've always just run a single program, Avast... Never malware bytes, avg, etc. etc. etc.

I've never had a virus, except once, and I can't really count that because I intentionally infected my computer to watch what the virus did heh.  I never understand why people have such trouble with viruses, since I run with very minimal protection and get away scott free...
357  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Protocol Buffers for Bitcoin on: July 30, 2010, 12:30:23 PM
Some people have been suggesting that protocol buffers might be larger than the custom written packet layout. I suspect that actually it would be *smaller* due to some of the clever encoding used in protocol buffers.
I agree that it could be smaller; not necessarily because of clever encoding, but because it would allow us to drop reserved bytes and the like.

Not only does it allow it to drop reserved fields, but it uses ZigZag encoding and some other tricks to keep integers and the like as absolutely small as possible.  So yea, it uses clever encoding. =P  It's also blazingly fast to process!
358  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin that really decentralized, as you believe? on: July 29, 2010, 08:06:22 PM
Your person makes no difference to me. Only your words live here.

And your words either point out what is obvious to even the most casual observer.
1) Everyone is not a developer.
2) The code makes the rules.
3) Therefore, developers of the code make the rules.

No shit Sherlock! That really does go *without* saying.
Oh God! They understand me!
Yes!
But that is not just an obvious property, but is also something, that have a security implications.
And I thought, that it should get duscussed from a security point of view.
At least, that doing so will somehow contribute to security and robustness of a payment system.
1) The rules are buried deeply into the binary.
2) The authority, that guarantees the tamperproof transactions is the rules that runs on the majority of the nodes.
3) The majority of users will download the binaries, not compile them.
4) Right now, there is only one distribution channel for binaries, the sourceforge.
5) No, binaries are not cryptographically signed.
...
PROFIT?

You [only] need a keylogger on the computer, that uploads binaries to sourceforge, to fully control the rules.
Does anybody run NOW intentionally dishonest nodes to inject dishonest transactions to check that they are really and continuously rejected by the majority?
If not, nobody will notice, that rules became weaker in the subverted binaries.
So, the only person, who knows that secret will remain the attacker, who subverted them.

...waffle waffle waffle...

Quote
There is no way to steal the existing bitcoin value by anyone, developer or not.
1. Who said that?
2. Does others agree on that?
3. Can that be proven?
4. Is that proven?

Why not steal bitcoins with transactions,

...waffle waffle waffle...

Quote
If there is, you certainly haven't pointed anything out.

In the case where you do say something that is not obvious to everyone, it is generally either misguided or nonsensical.
Sorry, that is me.

I'm wondering, why does anyone not discuss obvious security features of the system?
I am trying to invent attacks (sometimes stupid attacks), but nobody says, that everything
is already protected, because somebody worried before me.
They just say it is because of my drugs.
And my drugs aren't really appreciated here. Cry


I think I went over this before but I'll do it again, albeit in harsher terms this time:

just because you are too stupid to evaluate the system in both source code and binary form does not mean that everyone else is

Which means that in order for your ridiculous ideas to bear fruition it would require that EVERYONE capable of understanding the code and binaries be part of a HUGE CONSPIRACY in order to successfully defraud everyone who is unable to understand it.

Let me give you an extremely simple real-world example that will utterly destroy your paranoid rants.

The Linux Kernel

Need I say any more?

Fucking win.
359  Other / Off-topic / Re: Records of internet activity.... on: July 29, 2010, 05:32:20 PM
Meh, there have been SOME politicians who are honest.  Granted, they're few and far between, but Colonel Allen West, from Florida, is one example of someone who has a long history of being a man of integrity.
360  Other / Off-topic / Re: Records of internet activity.... on: July 29, 2010, 02:23:01 PM
FFFUUUUUUUU...

Just one more reason to vote in November.
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