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1  Local / Pamilihan / Re: PBA Prediction Tournament [7.5k php in BTC prize pool] on: Today at 05:52:48 AM

My picks:

TNT Tropang Giga -5.5
ROS Elasto Painters +7.5

Medyo alangan ako na ma-cover ng SMB iyong -7.5. Iba rin tong ROS at di pa sila natambakan ng todo this eliminations kahit nakalaban na nila ang ilan sa top teams gaya ng TNT Katropa at Brgy. Ginebra. Tingnan natin. Cheesy
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: June 27, 2022, 11:27:30 PM
If this fight is not going to happen then it's too bad for us. Probably this fight will not happen if the first negotiations will bog down, Crawford is not getting any younger and should be pursuing big fights like this before he retires.

Yes, that's too bad as it was anticipated by most boxing fans in the world. But for me, that will happen.

Lots of time to prepare for this if the supposed target month is October or even on the 1st quarter of 2023 but that was already too long waiting.

If ever the fight won't happen, both will likely meet at the Super Welterweight but there are big names here that they will meet like Jermell Charlo, Brian Castano, Erislandy Lara etc. Charlo is one of Crawford's targets in the future. We should just trust the process as both boxers really gives us hints that this fight will happen for real without anyone standing in their way.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) on: June 27, 2022, 11:18:03 PM
But it seems he looks very fresh in the Murata fight and won the fight hands down, but Canelo was slow at 175 lbs. But we can't say if this is going to be GGG's last fight. Boxers tend to fight just one last fight before they hang up their gloves for real.

GGG received lots of open shots by Murata in the early rounds. That is supposed to be an easy dodge for GGG but still, Murata is able to connect lots of it.

If those punches are much strong, GGG might end up being knocked out. We really see that GGG is now showing signs of slowing down but still, his durability is still strong. I just hope those punches that GGG receives by Murata won't happen here against Canelo. GGG should not allow again being a punching bag at early rounds as Canelo is different from Murata.

It's risky to receive early blows on the early rounds as he might not recover like what he did against Murata.

After this second fight with Canelo, he fought Sergiy Derevyanchenko, then Kamil Szeremeta you can say that argument that he was also hit more than in this fight specially Derevyanchenko but he managed to win by UD and then against Murata although we seen hm take more punches again still he won that fight via TKO. So GGG still holds a better chin that I don't think that even Canelo can break it down.

And again, you can also used your argument against Canelo here, he was hit with volumes by Bivol, a true LHW and with power, does it mean he has been soften up?

I can't take that example as what we need to refer to is their recent fights before the trilogy.

Even though GGG win his previous fight against Murata, he was being dominated in early-round first before taking the Round 9 TKO win. If GGG was in his prime, or let's say post-prime (different from retirement period) he is supposed to dominate Murata the entire fight.

Canelo on other hand, even coming from a loss with Bivol, is fighting in his prime. He is totally different compared to Murata that's why I said that GGG shouldn't allow the same scenario he experience during the early rounds of fighting with Murata.

Honestly, I'm looking for GGG winning the fight as Canelo still has more chance to redeemed himself even he loses here.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: June 27, 2022, 11:13:05 PM
The game last night was a tragedy for Converge as they don't only lose that game but they also lost some players to injury which was vital to their campaign this season, a big blow for them.

3 players are now on their injury list.

Jeron Teng (Hip - 1 week now)
Justin Arana (Double sprain)
Kurt Lojera (Big lump below the eye)

I'm looking forward to this team reaching even the Quarterfinals but the road for them will be tough because of these injuries.

Maybe Lojera will just be out for several days and likey can play on their next game. But Teng needs to rehab for at least 2-3 weeks and Arana for about a week.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: June 27, 2022, 11:02:57 PM
maybe it's because bookmakers need to be sure that the fight will happen and for that reason they only list fights 1 day or 2 days before the fights happen, In my opinion bookmakers should list at least 2 weeks before the fights. fights so we can see how the odds would be and how they would vary, this gives a better perspective of who can win the fight, of course, even without odds people already have an idea of who can win the fight, anyway it will be a very interesting fight

Bookies can just easily cancel and suspend the bet if a certain match won't continue due to certain reasons.

A refund will surely follow and that should be a common approach from the bookies. Bookies gave odds reference at least a month or a few several weeks before the fight but that was on fiat bookies. From there, crypto-bettors can picture out what are the expected odds they can get once it will now be listed on the crypto-sportsbook.

Since then, it's really usual to see bookies just listing any Filipino-involved fight 1-2 days before the fight, as others even mentioned, on the crypto-sportsbook.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Casino Trends For 2022 on: June 27, 2022, 10:56:32 PM
Gamblers in restricted location cannot still play legally.

There are a lot of casinos which are going to essentially ban you and kick you out the moment you know that you are using a VPN, even if it goes okay at the time of the bet you still won't be able to withdraw and you will be banned, there are some casinos that does allow VPN ofc but it's better to use terms and conditions.

That's not about using a VPN for sure but since there are users accessing the site from restricted regions, that will be a violation.

As far as most gambling sites are concerned, using VPN is not really prohibited as that won't even lead to another form of abuse except for the situation that I have mentioned. If VPN was used to a location that is not prohibited by the gambling site, there's nothing wrong with using it. It's just to mask the real IP and gambling sites already know that privacy matters to their users.

Don't use VPN to access it from restricted regions and that will surely result in a ban hammer not unless there's a part of the Terms and Service that directly pointed out that the use of VPN is illegal and prohibited.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: June 27, 2022, 10:50:53 PM
I don't see why any team would want to keep Anthony Davis or acquire him. He is injured and sits out more then half of every season since entering the NBA. The Lakers are just bleeding money keeping his bum ass.

Simply because he's the most consistent player, I think in the whole league, that even after an injury or long-hiatus, you can expect him to produce big numbers once he returned which most players can't do. There's no such thing as recovering the rhythm or adjusting to the situation for this guy. If you will do some recap of last season, Anthony Davis always goes rampage once he returns to the court. He's by far the consistent Laker player on the roster.

Even injury-prone, teams are likely to gamble as it is worth it instead of getting good names but showing inconsistencies in the game. Anyways, yes I agree it's a waste that the Lakers can't utilize him much because he is soft. I hope next season, he will remain healthy all year to make the competition tough.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Government Owned Online Casinos What Do You Think Of Its Potential on: June 27, 2022, 10:40:16 PM
Just imagine the following scenario:

The government of country Z has 30 casinos throughout the country, all 30 casinos are owned by the government, in each casino there are 20 employees, that means that the government has to pay salaries to 600 employees, the government will have to give reforms to 600 employees when those employees retire. And also when every high-ranking official of the political party that governs the country wants to play without spending money and put it in the government account he can do it whenever he wants, who will stop him?

Now if the 30 casinos are in the hands of the people and not the government, it will be 600 fewer people that the government will have to spend on salaries and pensions and there will be no corruption from some high-ranking official of the political party that governs the country to play for free

I think you watch movies too much.

In that scenario, the total spending of the government is just a piece of candy for a country that has a healthy industry in gambling. And besides, there's a certain tier where employees will be qualified for retirement benefits. We are not talking about just 10 years of service and I doubt most employees there will remain working for casinos for most of their lifetime.

In the 2nd scenario, what do you mean by if casinos are in the hands of the people? Are there casinos that are run by it? Do you mean private? Then it's not that good for the government as they are just getting taxes here instead of the pure revenue.

What are you trying to point out on your given example? Can you elaborate?
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you Considered a Career in Betting Consultancy? on: June 27, 2022, 10:32:22 PM
Already imagined as half the gamblers from the forum have become betting consultants. Bookmakers are going bankrupt and the whole betting industry is in deep crisis. All because of the crazy success of the new consultants. Cheesy But all kidding aside, it seems to me that this kind of activity is like trusting money in trading, where you end up losing your savings. It all benefits someone else, but not you.

You are overreacting and I don't think you are really getting the picture here.

Can you explain how on earth will bookies go bankrupt if half of the gamblers here in the forum will become betting consultants?
Can you explain how possibly the whole betting industry will be in crisis just because of that?

I can't imagine you end up to that non-sense conclusion where in the first place, it shouldn't be. I'll wait for your response and let's have a healthy argument.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Macau's Casino Operation Continues Despite The Latest Outbreak on: June 27, 2022, 10:24:17 PM
what these offline casinos can do is develop their own online casinos as counterpart. but the irony of this is "all forms of online gambling in Macau are considered outlawed" as per section 3.1 of this Gambling laws and regulations in Macau .
i believe this regulation will change soon as they need to adapt the developments in gambling community. if they will be strict to this, they will find out soon that a lot of their traditional players are now into online casinos. remember, some people are not up to traveling these days.

I think there's no need for a shift or a big modification. Pandemic is not here forever. The gambling industry will surely rise again once they were finally able to control the situation. We are not talking about long-term dealing with the pandemic there.

As far as gambling revenues are concerned, and as I mentioned, their big reserves coming from gambling can cover all health-related expenses.

Macau is a pit stop for most gamblers around the world, especially in the Asian region. Gambling is already part of the culture and entertainment there. Making online casino counterparts at most will just change that status. It doesn't make sense. Again, the pandemic is not here forever.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) on: June 26, 2022, 11:47:00 PM
But it seems he looks very fresh in the Murata fight and won the fight hands down, but Canelo was slow at 175 lbs. But we can't say if this is going to be GGG's last fight. Boxers tend to fight just one last fight before they hang up their gloves for real.

GGG received lots of open shots by Murata in the early rounds. That is supposed to be an easy dodge for GGG but still, Murata is able to connect lots of it.

If those punches are much strong, GGG might end up being knocked out. We really see that GGG is now showing signs of slowing down but still, his durability is still strong. I just hope those punches that GGG receives by Murata won't happen here against Canelo. GGG should not allow again being a punching bag at early rounds as Canelo is different from Murata.

It's risky to receive early blows on the early rounds as he might not recover like what he did against Murata.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: June 26, 2022, 11:40:31 PM
As much as they want to fight each other the soonest time, they really have to negotiate first specially the magnitude of this fight. And then we have the ego of this two in equation, but maybe Crawford will give in to the 60/40 split just to make this fight happen. I think the location can be settled in as usually the venue have been reserved by major promoters and networks, it's who is going to fight on that said date.

I think there's no problem for Terence Crawford accepting the much small split on 60/40. After all, unifying all the titles is much more important as it will establish Crawford as one of the great Welterweight who holds several titles. That will also make him a boxer to beat by those other high names.

The problem is, if Spence wants a much higher share which it's totally not making sense now regardless of his ability to sold-out tickets and generate money on all of his PPV fights. That was just speculation though and I'm sure we are just excited about the official announcement. Smiley
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 26, 2022, 11:33:48 PM

Looks like John Riel Casimero doesn't like the idea of having a small bout first and climbing the rank again.

He requested to WBO that he should be assigned as a mandatory challenger for Paul Butler. That's the only way to face the current Bantamweight King Naoya Inoue who now unified the 3 bantamweight titles without fighting on any tune-up first.

I hope Casimero's request will be granted although if really granted, he should not waste his final chance to take a shot against Inoue and worked properly on his weight-related problems that keep him inactive for 2 fights already. That was alarming as it just shows that he is not fit to fight.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: June 26, 2022, 11:23:27 PM
Nevertheless, this might be the one, specially if he wins in an emphatic fashion against a tough Mexican Warrior in Vargas. And for sure winning by a knock out will put him in notice for fans, analyst and even networks.

A clean Knockout win or a full dominance in every round By Magsayo - should make people convinced that he won the fight clearly.

There's really not convinced at how Magsayo won against Russell but for me, it's not that he will be expected to dominate easily the fight just because the latter is handicapped and dealing with a shoulder injury. Russell, despite his injury, is still performing well and gives Magsayo a hard road to win.

Moving forward, let's just wait and see if Magsayo will show a championship instinct in this fight. After all, this is only his first title defense since he snatches the title from Russell. Let's give him a break and just judge him after this fight.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Government Owned Online Casinos What Do You Think Of Its Potential on: June 26, 2022, 11:10:36 PM
That's much better because the government itself owns that 100% entirety of the casinos all over the country and its mandate was to be controlled and report to the Office of the President. That said $600 Million or ₱30 Billion was the revenue of the 1st trimester and not the whole year so imagine how would a country benefit for that whole year, unfortunately, I think that funds was already exhausted because Covid-19 wrecked havoc in the following year.

Not that totally exhausted because lots of gambling firms under the regulation of PAGCOR were also hyped during the pandemic and one of the popular ones is the e-sabong. Because of the hyped on these games, the government was able to sustain the revenues coming from gambling.

As per the report, E-sabong gives the government Php 642 million a month. Imagine, it's a billion figures in just a year, and take note, physical casinos are not even operating and this revenue is just for e-sabong alone. What's more, if it includes other gambling?

That gives way for the government to continue providing funding for hospitals and medicine-related stuff aside from the usual spending on infrastructure for example. That's how well the gambling industry here in PH that's why taking down illegal ones are a priority.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Macau's Casino Operation Continues Despite The Latest Outbreak on: June 26, 2022, 11:01:40 PM
Macau should plan some alternate way to keep the country's economy stable, when there is no big profit from the gambling industry.

There's no country I believed that can keep its economy stable when dealing with a big Covid outbreak.

Or did I miss one that still performs well amid a massive lockdown?

The government here surely, of course, has some alternatives and other options but it's just that, they are really a gambling country and they surely have lots of money on reserves even for let's say they will stop their gambling operations there for at least a year. They can surely cover what they lose.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ? on: June 26, 2022, 10:55:08 PM
Anyway, speaking about rigged games/fight. There's this speculation about Jake Paul vs Tyroon Woodley that the latter was forced to get KO'd and videos are surfacing in the internet about what was Jake Paul is trying to say in the ring moments before Woodley got KO'd. What do you think about it guys?

That was too smooth for a rigged. Before that Knock Out punch, everything is doing fine on both sides and you can't even think that it's a rigged.

Even though I watched some related videos to see how it's done, we don't know what happened on that. It's a perfect rigged if that's really rigged and all I can say is if they can pull out that smooth act, what's more to their future fights?

I want to disregard the rigged since Woodley isn't really an impressive fighter after all before that fight. Comes from a 4-consecutive loss and is almost at the end of his career. They just do the fight for entertainment purposes to grab some money.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: June 25, 2022, 11:51:51 PM
The rumors of a Kevin Durant trade to Portland just heated up quite a bit as Dame posted a picture of KD and him in Trailblazers jerseys to his Instagram. Probably just wishful thinking on Dame’s part, but interesting that he’s fueling the fire of these rumors. I can understand why though. Dame has never played with anyone near Durant’s talent and Portland has been trying hard to get him some help. I thought this was nonsense, but maybe there’s some reality to these rumors.

Damian Lillard is still following his stand not to change teams even though he already hinted several times that he might find a new home. For me, that makes sense to do and he should be supposed to do it for a long time now. Portland Blazers failed to surround him with good role players and I don't know why Lillard is still staying with them regardless of the contract he signed for.

But yes, that rumor is non-sense as that is not close to be happening. Kevin Durant will stay on Brookly Nets and probably will just wait to use his Player Option (if any) before considering switching teams in the near future depending on where the team will end up every season.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: June 25, 2022, 11:46:16 PM

Why everyone is pointing out or now concerned about Magsayo being confident or not lol. Of course, it's good to be confident but not to the point that Magsayo will consider his opponent as a small fry. Can someone tell me when is the time Magsayo becomes like that? He knows himself more than us and we can't speak about him being confident or not. He knows what he doing and just trusts the process.

But no crypto sportsbook has listed this fight yet? It is like about couple of weeks and no bookie yet listing for the odds. Magsayo may be the slight favorite here. But yes, he should not be very confident as Vargas seemed to be a good boxer on his own.

As usual, like in every title fight involving a Pinoy boxer, crypto-sportsbook just lists the fight around 1-2 days before the fight. If it's much early, then that was surprising. The only fight they are listing early involving a Pinoy boxer is during the time Manny Pacquiao is still active in boxing.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: June 25, 2022, 11:41:02 PM
Even though we haven't heard any 'official announcement' yet, might be just sometime now as they might have been ironing out few things before going out in public.

And as mentioned, maybe the date and venue is one obstacles that they have to settled. The network will have to come out as the best place for this fight is, and then the date itself.. I think money wise and split, verbally they could have talk it down already. And we are going to be privilege to witnessed another great fight if this happens this year.

I agree with you. I even think this fight is now almost a deal but just a few things are being properly fixed before the official announcement.

In the first place, there's no other boxer that both Terence Crawford and Errol Spence should fight but between the two of them. Even the majority of boxing analysts and known personalities are throwing their respective opinion that the fight should happen no matter what.

This is a fight that has no excuses or reason to delay or what. We will surely see this fight happening this year. There's no doubt about that. Maybe they are not planning to hold it close to the date of one of the biggest fights also this year, the trilogy between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin.
Well this is something very interesting, and I hope it happens like this, but I think that the main reason why they want the fight to happen is because of the amount of money that is involved there, I don't see that they do it for the pure interest of boxing, I don't think that it be for that, rather the most logical thing is because of the business model, because the big investors are willing to make juicy millionaire bets, and with respect to the trilogy, that Canelo vs. GGG is something that is good is positive, but in my personal opinion I don't see this fight as exciting, because CANELO has faltered a lot, who I see as good for making good fights is the Russian Bivol.


Money really matters but it's not the only main reason why these 2 want to fight. There's an unsettled business between Crawford and Spence that is working for progress for a long and they need to put an end to it to see who's the best at their division.

This fight is not just a fight that is organized for nothing.

Crawford currently holds the WBO Welterweight titles
Spence currently holds the IBF, WBA and WBC Welterweight titles

In boxing, there's a so-called unification match and that is a big chance for a boxer to become an undisputed champion in that division. Without a big recognition and good boxing credentials, even a boxer wants to fight for money, but that's all useless as they won't able to make a good ticket sales and PPV views that's why this fight is not just about money for these boxers.
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