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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Red List
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on: May 16, 2013, 03:06:45 AM
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I still dont know what you mean by a mixing service.
How about I take some of that stolen btc (from the wallet John should have secured) and make some bets at satoshi dice or play poker or something.
Are all of those gambling sites now 'contaminated'? All the money coming from them is considered 'secondary'?
So another person wins big playing poker and now can't spend the money without jumping thru hoops?
No, no wallets are ever "contaminated" except for the first degree wallet - just under surveillance. The gambling site would be wise to run the wallet against The Red List before accepting payment. If the gambling site registered with The Red List, it need not worry. If not, the site may get prompted with a questionnaire if directly attempting to spend second degree flagged BTC at a legitimate business. The person winning at poker would be third degree at most and if repeatedly spends surveilled BTC may have to answer a questionnaire or may make The Red List after repeated low degree BTC flagged purchases at legitimate businesses if statistically determined he is in possession of stolen funds at a statistically significant rate much higher (alpha of 0.02) than average possession of stolen funds. There would be almost no advantage and huge disadvantages for a poker (or any gambling) site dealing with something like the red list. First of all there are many transactions and even a low percentage being flagged would be a huge increase in the labor for the site. The poker site would then be asking power players where they got their BTC from? Most gambling sites collect little or no data on a customer and the customers like it like that. With no participation from gambling sites, especially ones like SD that are fully automated, gambling sites would act as complex mixers and render the red list useless. |
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Rebranded 5870 (6870) for only $130 on Newegg
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on: May 14, 2013, 03:34:20 AM
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I am getting 420khs out the gate. Will work on tweaking later on.
Finally got them in my system. They show up as 6870s but have the Cypress processors and 1600 shaders. Can't seem to get mine above 320 without oc though. Mind posting your config that you are getting 420 with? You should be able to get 420 with 950mhz using all current version software. I would personally run a little slower depending on heat, I like to run undervolted and see how fast I can go at 1 volt. It makes less money but the hardware ages a lot slower. |
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Economy / Computer hardware / [closed] Rebranded 5870
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on: May 13, 2013, 08:37:44 PM
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These actually have 1600 shaders and Cyprus chips vs what a 6870 would normally have. Of course that means it will not crossfire with a 6870!
I have four available. These are brand new, not referbs, not used.
$189 worth of BTC shipped in the USA though AK and HI will not be delivered with original box/packing materials.
two for $360 shipped USA
Note to haters: I paid less for this card then I am selling it for, deal with it.
Hashing or sold.
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Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Apparently PayPal can no longer be used to buy/sell Bitcoin mining hardware
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on: May 11, 2013, 09:48:56 PM
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I can see why there's a problem with bitcoin miners tbh, I think Butterfly labs excepting paypal has meant that a lot of money is riding on if they ever deliver, supposedly BFL have only been sending out a small number to keep paypal happy so it makes more sense that they don't want their claim system over run being somewhat dodgy transactions.
At the end of the day eventually we'll see thing like Paypal hopefully become a thing of the past, it's really a horrible company.
The problem was all of the 'pre-order' sales. So many of them were scams that now even that is out. In reality Paypal could allow in stock sales of bitcoin miners as well as known physical shipped bitcoins. Paypal wants to avoid having chargebacks, and pre-orders and online bitcoins give LOTS of chargebacks. I am not defending them, I think they suck and are ignoring loosing out on money they could be making if they were just SMART. |
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: How efficient will ASICs get?
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on: May 11, 2013, 09:17:04 PM
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It is my understanding that the current generation of ASICs all get around 100MH/joule give or take a few million hashes. While that is upwards of 20x more efficient than GPU mining, how much more can be pushed out? Given we understand exactly the operation needed, does anybody know what the minimum amount of energy that could possibly be expended to perform SHA256?
ASIC's could be easily 2x - 4x more power efficient as the best chips out today even using the same NM manufacturing process because as far as I know none of the chips out are true CLEAN SHEET designs. You can get several orders of a magnitude by having lower NM manufacturing processes as well as a more efficiency from multiple but slower cores per chip. All of this costs money and lots of it but then makes for a lower cost product in the end. |
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Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Why Ripple™ is against everything Bitcoin
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on: May 11, 2013, 06:40:32 PM
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MT gox charges a 1 % fee. Ripple is not going to be a successful exchange while XRP remains as expensive as it is now or unless it takes less ripples to perform an exchange then it does now. Maybe I am wrong but it looks like it is much more expensive when you factor all fees to exchange on Ripple as it is on the popular bitcoin exchanges.
Huh? Ripple transaction fees are negligible. I thought you needed 200 xrp to send? That is currently more then $2 plus any exchange fees. 200 is the minimum fee to have a open account. Ok. I see the minimum has also just been lowered to 50? |
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Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Why Ripple™ is against everything Bitcoin Decentralized
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on: May 11, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
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MT gox charges a 1 % fee. Ripple is not going to be a successful exchange while XRP remains as expensive as it is now or unless it takes less ripples to perform an exchange then it does now. Maybe I am wrong but it looks like it is much more expensive when you factor all fees to exchange on Ripple as it is on the popular bitcoin exchanges.
Huh? Ripple transaction fees are negligible. I thought you needed 200 xrp to send? That is currently more then $2 plus any exchange fees. |
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Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Why Ripple™ is against everything Bitcoin Decentralized
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on: May 11, 2013, 04:26:25 PM
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with all other issues of Ripple aside. why are they holding 20% of all the XRP? that alone makes me weary of using them
To make money obviously. If you think holding XRP yourself won't be profitable, then don't do it. You only need tiny amounts of it if all you want to do is to use Ripple as a far superior, distributed alternative to Mt Gox. MT gox charges a 1 % fee. Ripple is not going to be a successful exchange while XRP remains as expensive as it is now or unless it takes less ripples to perform an exchange then it does now. Maybe I am wrong but it looks like it is much more expensive when you factor all fees to exchange on Ripple as it is on the popular bitcoin exchanges. |
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Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Spammed about BTC advertising services
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on: May 11, 2013, 03:10:48 PM
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Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Why Ripple™ is against everything Bitcoin
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on: May 11, 2013, 02:38:04 PM
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. Satoshi did not open source from the beginning.
That's also a common myth. The first version of bitcoin (0.1) came with source (it was packaged in the same .zip as the windows .exe). Yes, but Satoshi built the protocol before the (0.1) release, before he even released his white paper. The Ripple protocol is not complete and not ready for open source release in this environment - it is in closed beta. Satoshi held his own closed trials before releasing (0.1). Your kidding me. You are thinking anyone is that dumb to buy that crap? A developer used/tested his own software before releasing it so it is not open source? The difference is quite clear. Ripple is in public use right now and there is no source code or public nodes. Ripple is currently closed source. By your notion Windows is open source because Microsoft COULD release the code tomorrow. |
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