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Did you guys actually try the indicators, both of them? And did you watch his instructional videos? Because imo, if you do that and also give it a little time and see for yourself, you should see potential. I was skeptical too at first and expected absolutely nothing, but i was very positively surprised.
Imo you should use the beach indicator as a directional anchor indicator and the death crossing indicator for timing entries (and exits, if you want). You could take it that when the beach indicator is bearish, you only take bearish entry signals from the death crossing indicator and vice versa.
As for the entry signals in the death crossing indicator, you could use the death cross as the entry or the MA to change colour or both of them, whatever suits you. I find that often the MA colour change is enough to provide a good entry as long as its in the direction indicated by the beach indicator.
I like using these indicators on the 1 hour timeframe for the most part, but they work on others as well.
For alerts on the MA colour change, use the CM_DI_plus_minus indicator, set and alert for the indicator to cross itself and that will usually signal for the MA colour change (sometimes it will be grey instead, in which case ignore it).
Use the price range tool in your tradingview and see what you think. Are you guys seriously telling me you dont see why this is a good indicator? Im genuinely interested in hearing your thoughts.
Also look at his instructional videos, they should give you further perspective on the use cases on the death crossing indicator.
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Omg Sorry i was afk for a while, getting the situation out of my head. Yeah i moved them to my polo account temporarily, no need to be worried about that.  I just forgot to mention that. Yeah im not gonna leave them there for a long time. Whoa well. What a situation.    |
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As near as I can figure, you sent 5 BTC directly to a deposit address at an exchange (possibly Bitstamp)... It didn't go anywhere near your Electrum wallet. I suspect you may have "swept" the funds directly to the exchange. For the record, that was the same day (15th August 2015) that the Bitcoin XT fork happened and the Bitcoin price was "only" ~USD$260... (10 days later it was $214, according to this: https://99bitcoins.com/price-chart-history/ ) Does any of this trigger any memory? Perhaps you were cashing out before the fork? Back then, your 5 coins were maybe $1250-1300... about 1/5th of what the 1.6BTC is worth now!  Anyway, what you do with the 1.6BTC you have left is up to you... Do you want to cash it out or keep it? If you want to cash out then just sweep the funds into a new wallet of your choice. If you want to keep it, maybe you should consider moving to a new wallet as well, given the lack of faith in the current private key... If you didn't send the 5BTC then it may have been compromised. I did not even know of the fork. This seems unlikely to me, but my skepticism is on steroids now cause i cant remember doing that transaction either. Maybe i just have some serious memory loss now. Ive deleted emails from that time, for sure. I guess i need to start by looking at all the papers i have and see if any in them give me a clue of what has happened. Maybe contact bitstamp to see if there is an account relating to my email. Well im glad i got my 1.6 back, at least all this was not for nothing. I think 1.6 is worth the stress after all. You guys have a time machine so i can go back and a. save my coins b. slap myself in the face??? |
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OH two confirmations. Ive never seen the word *confirmation* with it looking so beautiful. Damn. I deserve a beer you guys  |
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Sorry it took me a while to reply. I have a flu now on top of the distress (though the news about the apparent 1.6 btc is perhaps better than any other medicine....of course 10000 btc would be a better medicine but anyway). Im just feeling sleepy and confused. Now i started looking into other possible bitcoin addresses that i have, and i just noticed something and this clears things up a bit: 15FyEELVAzyKiWNQA888SDPDyZdB1Czrqj is the address to my ledger nano (havent really been using it, had certain issues with that too [yes, i dont know why but i always get some crazy issues with technical devices, but there is enough of a headache already so lets leave ledger out of this]) and i do remember sending a small amount to it, so i can confirm to that transaction. Apparently i just imported the casascius private keys to the electrum ( ) since it shows transactions going from the casc public address and i made that transaction using electrum. As for the 0.6 btc, well that should logically be the time i sold the 0.6 so yeah As for the 5.0 bitcoins, now that is my WTF moment. I dont remember doing that. But if i still have 1.6, its weird if a hacker left that, and since the two other transactions are most obviously mine, i guess i must be behind this one too. I just cant imagine how i would transfer 5 goddamn coins and not remember it My own memory is starting to scare me now. Now i imagine i would have transferred that to a btc wallet of my own and somehow forgotten about that, but it shows a lot of transactions happening after that so it cant be cold storage??? I dont think i have a bitstamp account and if i do, im pretty sure ive made that later. Did i just iuwbgiubgiebwiugbw 5 coins ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nVk25ZvTkUWow what the fuck is going on. ---------- Well.....how would you guess suggest i get that 1.6 btc out safely? Import the private keys again, then move them wherever? Im asking cause to me it seems at this point its smarter if i dont do damn thing before someone else verifies im not doing something dangerous. I seem to have a skill at fucking things up which is a skill i dont yet know how to use in the most productive manner. ----------- Thanks for all the support ive been receiving, i really appreciate it. I can already feel my mental health repairing itself a little bit, maybe i dont have to go live in a crazy people home after all (and i wouldnt wanna spend the rest of my money on the treatment). What ive learned: -Keep everything in order and pay attention to security -Backups, so i dont have to come back online and whine about whats going on -Unfortunately cannot trust electrum anymore, the transaction history is still lost -Im not made to deal with crisis situations or with losses, i better avoid these scenarios like the plague they are -I cant trust myself, i thought i could, but 5 btc and the blockchain disagree and i cannot argue with that. I have to deem myself untrustworthy which kinda sucks cause i have to rely on myself anyway. -The community in bitcoin still works, so you guys are alright  |
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I mean this is the address of my casc bar https://blockchain.info/address/1GCqjEHwr1BUU7wArNF4X5htyTAwR7LjzcAnd the three outgoing transactions i suppose should be the ones where i moved them to my electrum, right? So those three addresses 1EY6XWAtKo64x7gcY9AgnVgxnUMc8YJZn6 1GCqjEHwr1BUU7wArNF4X5htyTAwR7Ljzc 15FyEELVAzyKiWNQA888SDPDyZdB1Czrqj Should they be in the addresses tab in the wallet file where my bitcoins should be? None of those are in there, only other, empty addresses. So it appears i got hacked? I didnt really do anything with it, i used it to send to an address once to sell, and at an another time to check them. From what ive understood that should be pretty unlikely to happen. And i cant see any history, but i dont see how i could have the wrong wallet file. Could the hacker mess up the history in the file so that tracking would be more difficult? |
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I cant understand how my casascius bar could still have btc in it If you click on one of those transactions where i transact out of the casascius address, thats a 2015 transaction. Further from that you can find transactions on 2016 And thats where i found the 3K address. https://blockchain.info/address/3KYEMZfWaGSsNKj8ypR9xLzYmUDQyGeMFGI mean i didnt send anything in 2016, i only checked my wallet. Whats going on? |
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Here is the public address for my cascascius bar: 1GCqjEHwr1BUU7wArNF4X5htyTAwR7Ljzc https://blockchain.info/address/1GCqjEHwr1BUU7wArNF4X5htyTAwR7LjzcSo as you can see, i loaded it in 2014 and then moved it to my electrum in 2015 (somehow it shows that balance is still 1.6??? must be a mistake). Now clicking on those addresses i didnt notice the 0.6 i transferred out, but it seems that in 2016 all the addresses seem to have transactions out, at exactly 2016.02.22 https://blockchain.info/address/3KYEMZfWaGSsNKj8ypR9xLzYmUDQyGeMFGAm i missing something? I think that could well have been the day i last checked (apparently a bit more than 1.5 years then) and saw my coins there. Did i get hacked or am i missing something??? |
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Yes, it should... but can you be certain that it IS the original wallet file? 2.5 years is a long time ago... and there is no real way for us to know exactly what you backed up to USB. I still think it might be more likely that you've backed up the wrong file and the wrong seed, it's the only explanation for the fact that your seed is generating addresses that have no coins (and your original wallet file gives you that same seed)... I'm fairly sure that if you opened the true old file with your coins in it, in a new version of Electrum, that your coins would be available. The only way for this not to happen is if your file was either corrupt (but Electrum should detect this and tell you) or you are opening a file that is not the one with your coins in it. At the end of the day, I guess it doesn't really matter... either way your coins seem to be gone Do you still have the original Tails OS on the USB? Does it boot at all? It boots, but sometimes it fails to start and there is nothing else i can do but shut it down from the power button. Thats why i dont like starting it up in the first place. It no longer starts electrum, and when i tried starting it from the terminal it complained something about the config. file getting an error. Wait, should it ask for my password when i open the file itself, or only when i ask for the seed/perform operations? It doesent ask the password for opening it. Why don't you look up the cascius coins' address on a block explorer site and see whether it still has funds in it or not? See if those addresses are in your USB wallet.
If all the money has been sent from the address then see if the destination address is in your electrum wallet (this would be a private key sweeping transaction).
Block explorer would be a site like blockchain.info
Finally there is one last thing you can try but you have to do this offline. Open the site bitaddress.org and disconnect from the net. Go to wallet details tab and enter your cascius coin private key(s) there. For each private key you should get two addresses one for the compressed public key and one for uncompressed public key. Save those addresses in a text file for future reference. See if any of those addresses are in your electrum wallet.
Before going online again close the bitaddress.org tab and then your browser. You can run your browser once you've gone online again.
Alternatively you can do all of the above using a live cd. Bitaddress.org is just one self-contained file and can be saved on a disk for offline usage.
Ok im gonna do this, i think i still should have both the casc private and public key stored. |
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The master public key you sent me has NO HISTORY AT ALL. This means, your seed is wrong or there's an issue with the formats changing between the new versions and old versions of the electrum client. The seed format has changed since the first wallet realease, I'd suggest you try this with your seed just to check it. This one supported MPK keys and is the latest one I can find that does (though I didn't do too much of a search, though my seed was generated from 2.6.3). What is that link? Don't want to thread jack but I feel this sounds like a problem I am having at the moment as well.
I installed Electrum 2 nights ago from a link (Version 2.1), created a new wallet, saved the seed address. Used my receive address in my mining .bat file and started mining. The next day I noticed Electrum wasn't connected. No matter what I did it wouldn't (only listing one server).
I reinstalled Electrum from the actual electrum website on my main laptop. This was the latest version and it connects to servers now. I copied my wallet from the mining rig, there was only one wallet called default_wallet.
What was strange was the file opened without asking for my password or anything. None of the address matched and my old address wasn't listed under changed. I then tried to open it from the Seed address I saved the night before. Same issue/address all with no history. Although i may not have any history or funds yet I would still like to see my address from the night before to make sure.
What is odd is none of the new addresses will work with the miner. As soon as I change the .bat back to the old address it starts working again. So I cant even start again with one of these new addresses and I cant access my old one.
Possibly the same issue as OP which is why I thought Id mention it here rather then a new thread...
For me this has for sure become a permanent red flag on electrum. My mistake, someone elses mistake, whatever it is: i was under the impression my coins were safe. I cannot trust electrum after this. In fact, i dont know what i can trust anymore. Cant trust myself either, obviously. The master public key you sent me has NO HISTORY AT ALL. This means, your seed is wrong or there's an issue with the formats changing between the new versions and old versions of the electrum client. The seed format has changed since the first wallet realease, I'd suggest you try this with your seed just to check it. This one supported MPK keys and is the latest one I can find that does (though I didn't do too much of a search, though my seed was generated from 2.6.3). The seed version should not make any difference... Electrum detects "old" seeds and will recreate the old wallet correctly. I've just tested with Electrum 1.8.1 and 1.9.8... Seeds generated with both of those versions will restore into Electrum 2.9.3 just fine. They show up as "Seed Type: old" when you type them in, but 2.9.3 will still generate exactly the same addresses as the earlier versions using the same seed. I dont remember how i did it exactly, but i had like a casascius cold wallet, and i got its private key into my electrum with someones instructions somehow. I honestly dont remember, but ive used electrum to send bitcoins after that from the same wallet.
Based on this little snippet of information... Perhaps it is possible that the OP has created a wallet in Electrum, written down the seed... and then imported the private key (older versions allowed "hybrid" wallets that contained both seed AND private keys) and possibly missed this warning:  Wallet has then been recovered from seed at some point... and the private key containing the coins has been lost I have the original wallet file that im holding. I have both the seed and the original wallet file. Shouldnt the original wallet file still do its thing? Did my wallet file just decide to fuck itself up one day and throw the private keys in the trash can? Shouldnt the original wallet file still contain the private keys? |
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Rescanning is something usually reserved for clients like Bitcoin Core. You don't need to rescan for Electrum.
I think you misunderstand my point about having the wrong seed and wrong file...
2 years ago, you had Wallet A with Seed A and Wallet B with Seed B... For whatever reason, you wrote down Seed B and started sending coins to address(es) in Wallet A... then you backed up Wallet B.
So now, 2 years later... you have Wallet B file with no transactions and no coins... and matching Seed B, which just regenerates your empty wallet.
No, i sent coins to wallet A from a paper wallet and the password i have of wallet A corresponds to the seed which i have on paper when i open the file and ask for the seed. Ive used the same wallet to send coins. Rescanning is something usually reserved for clients like Bitcoin Core. You don't need to rescan for Electrum.
However, if your current wallet has addresses that you can lookup on blockchain.info and see coins, then it could indeed some sort of network issue with Electrum. Do you have any record of old addresses that you used back when you initially sent the coins?
Under "Tools -> Network", you should see a value labelled "Blockchain"... if the number of blocks is equal to the current block height of Bitcoin Network (485020 at the time of this message) then your Electrum is sync'd OK.
If it is less than that number, then your Electrum is not synced properly. You might need to try a different server
485084 at this moment. Tried multiple servers. I also have no issue importing other wallets successfully. I'm not particularly sure any of his public keys would be exposed. However @op if you have a problem with this, you can PM me or the user I just quoted with the public key.
I said private key not public key. Any one private key + the MPK = whole wallet compromized. There is no reason to believe any of the OP's private keys have been exposed. Just saying that exposing the MPK is not entirely risk free. Also, if the seed formats are the same and a new wallet is created then an xpub key should be created shouldn't it? Otherwise, the problem op is facing is merely a compatibility issue.
No that's not the case. Electrum maintains backward compatibility with old seed formats. The MPK would be of the old type too. @Numerous64: You haven't answered the question HCP posed about familiar addresses. Can you bring the address tab into view with ctrl+a and see if any familiar addresses are listed there? Also please answer the question I posed above regarding sweeping vs. importing. crtl+a does not seem to do anything, but from view>show addresses i get a bunch of empty addresses. I dont remember how i did it exactly, but i had like a casascius cold wallet, and i got its private key into my electrum with someones instructions somehow. I honestly dont remember, but ive used electrum to send bitcoins after that from the same wallet. |
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To answer the questions about the seed and how i imported them, no, the seed is not wrong. Clarification: I swept my private keys from a cold wallet following someones instructions 2,5 years ago. I had 7.2 btc back then, and i did this with no problem, i sold 0.6 sending that from the USB. So this wallet has worked in the past. The last time i checked and it connected and had the remaining 6.6 btc was 1.5 years ago. Now, everything has disappeared. I do have the correct seed. Ive checked it from the electrum seed and typed my password, and it shows me the same seed i have written on paper. So it is the correct file, i have the correct seed, it worked before and ive used it to receive and to send, and now there is no proof of any of this and i cant see my coins. And what comes to choosing the wrong wallet file, i made a specific name for this wallet so i know its not the wrong one, but ive done the same to the autogenerated default wallet that was created in electrum to which i also have a password. So to answer whether or not my wallet file is wrong, ive tried it with the other file too. "What node are you connected to. Go to tools > network and check the block height in comparison to the block height of the landing page of blockchain.info. " How do i do this more specifically? Where do i see the block height? "It is also possible that for some weird reason the addresses with the coins are out beyond Electrum's default gap limit of 20 "receive" and 5 "change" addresses. " What does this mean? Im afraid im a bit unfamiliar with the terminology (and it seems, once again, that i have bad karma with technology ) If what you mentioned is the problem, how would i go about finding out whether or not thats the problem and how to fix it? ----------- Are there other possibilities beyond the mentioned, and also: is it possible to get the private keys of the wallet out of there and import them somewhere else to see whats going on? I also heard that if this is a connectivity problem something called a "rescan" should help, whatever that is. I tried googling it but i found nothing. Is this true? |
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Since my issue is clearly more mysterious than most normal issues, should i ask somewhere else? Should i contact electrum directly?
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As i said before, i do not have the wrong seed and i can restore it from the seed the same way i can open it from the file, but i cant tell the difference because neither option shows me my transaction history. I have the correct file, i have the correct seed and i have 6.6 bitcoins stored, but due to reason X i am not seeing them.
I sure hope i didnt just lose 6.6 bitcoins because of electrums technical errors. I wasnt even aware that these kinds of things could happen and just assumed that holding my funds in electrum will indeed keep them safe.
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I copied the wallet file from my tails persistence to a new usb and opened it in a different OS on a different electrum wallet, the newest version.
I cannot see anything in the history tab. I can see a bunch of empty addresses in the addresses tab.
I should have bitcoins there and a transaction history, but its as if i never had put anything in there. Im 100% sure that im not mistaken on that.
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I tried that with multiple servers and does not work. Sitting there and waiting for something to happen.
So what now?
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What server to use? Should i just pick one randomly?
Where do i find the different servers?
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