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1  Economy / Reputation / Re: S_Therapist = mdayonliner on: January 17, 2019, 11:01:02 PM
Have any final conclusion been gaven? Or this is still an accusation.
By whom?  All the evidence has been presented and feedback has been given, so it's up to everyone to read it and make up their own minds about it.  It looks like the consensus among the members who've posted here is that they are alts, and I suspect that's the case.  Do I know that for a fact?  Not really.  Everything mdayonliner presented as far as phone screenshots and the like could be doctored--or they could be genuine.

I've seen enough shenanigans and lying on this forum to be jaded enough to disbelieve anyone on a matter like this, even if they're trusted.  And when you factor in the fact that S_Therapist is a documented account buyer with other alt accounts, it would not surprise me in the least if mdayonliner was an alt.  I don't like the fact that mdayonliner's stated relationship with S_Therapist changed as time went along.  Seems like he was trying to hide something there. 

In any case, I'm pretty sure the reputations of both accounts are irreparably shot and I agree with others who've said that presenting all of this evidence is pointless.  None of it proves beyond a doubt that the two accounts represent two separate individual human beings.
2  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 17, 2019, 08:39:24 PM
I'm asking coinlocket$ to remove me from the list.
Why?  It's true a lot of your feedbacks don't have reference links, but you have a pretty solid trust page and a lot of people vouching for you.  Just be careful in the future when you're sending feedback to include a reference link and to not hand them out to just anyone.  I haven't seen your trust list, but this is the whole point of the new trust system, i.e., to have more DT members and more 'diversity' in the list.

a lot all of your feedbacks
Also the risked amounts don't seem to be credible.
I was looking at the entirety of his trust page, including feedback he got.  And yes, I agree about the risked amounts.  Truthfulness aside, that amount doesn't affect the 'strength' of the feedback, right?  I tend to not even look at the amount unless I've done a deal for a specific amount and am leaving a feedback.  Micio clearly doesn't seem to be a scammer and in fact looks to be pretty trusted.  I'm not sure the lack of reference links ought to impact that, but that's just my opinion.  I don't know anything about him or what the Italian section is like.  The members there seem to trust him a lot, and that counts for something.  

Edit:
"If you want to make a rating stronger, increase "Risked BTC". 50 extra risked BTC is equivalent to an additional rating."
OK, so it does make the rating stronger.  I thought I might have seen that somewhere, but never saw it in action I guess.
3  Other / Meta / Re: grin is now accepted for forum payments on: January 17, 2019, 08:29:11 PM
I'm also looking at Dash.
Haven't finished reading this thread yet, but watch out lest you become the next target of cryptohunter for that.  Just voice a modicum of support for Dash and you'll end up on the sharp end of his trolling stick.

Grin?  Never heard of it.  Not interested in it, even if Theymos is throwing his support at it--which makes me scratch my head a little.  But I'm obviously not nearly as knowledgeable as 95% of bitcointalkers as far as what constitutes a good altcoin anyway.
4  Other / Meta / Re: [TOP-200] Members who have a lot of earned sMerits on: January 17, 2019, 07:11:14 PM
Does it take account of the airdrop merits. I'm 60 away, because I got 500 as a Hero.
No, those are earned merits.

I understand that, but I wondered if it assumed that all legendaries started with 1,000, or if it knew they had been promoted to legendary, so they should have a lower start count.
Ah, that I don't know.  I know the Legendaries listed above earned 1000 and that's all I was interested in--not that ranking up to Legendary by earning merits is less impressive, because it isn't.  It's more of a feat that few members will be able to pull off in their lifetimes.
5  Other / Meta / Re: [TOP-200] Members who have a lot of earned sMerits on: January 17, 2019, 07:04:15 PM
I'd like to see a list of the Legendaries who have earned more than 1,000 merits.
Yeah, actually I wouldn't mind seeing a breakdown of how many merits all the Legendaries have earned.  I suspect there's an easy way of seeing that data, but I don't know how to do it myself.  Does Vod's BPIP site have a way to collate that info?  

I know of only a handful of Legendary members who've actually earned more than 1000 merits, and I know there are some lower-ranked members who've done it but don't yet have enough activity to rank up, but there still aren't all that many of them as far as I know.

Edit:
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LoyceV            1567    Legendary
suchmoon    1327    Legendary
The Pharmacist    1320    Legendary
hilariousetc    1277    Legendary
Last of the V8s    1217    Legendary
There you go. Source: https://bpip.org/.
That's it?  Wow, I thought there were more than that--but on the other hand, the only members who came immediately to mind were hilariousandco and LoyceV.  Forgot about suchmoon for a minute, and wasn't aware of Last of the V8s' inclusion on that list. 

Now that you told me how you got that data, I'm pretty sure I could have found it myself.  I haven't visited the BPIP site in a while and forget that it's a relatively simple thing to compile numbers like that.  Thanks, tho.
6  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trust Feedback Policies on: January 17, 2019, 01:46:36 AM
And even if you can - are the people who do these things going to read this and comply?
Your question may as well be a rhetorical one.  All of these things are what should make someone a DT1/DT2 member in the first place, not some rules new DT members should become aware of after the fact.  I respect OP's effort, but any DT member should know not to do all of these things, and if they do end up sending merits to alts or abusing bounties they're not going to be on DT for long.

And just like that huge thread in Meta explaining about why accounts get banned and what to do, I highly doubt anyone is going to use this as a reference.  Call me jaded, but I think it's a wasted effort here.
7  Economy / Reputation / Re: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source on: January 16, 2019, 10:31:58 PM
The OP of that thread is cross-posting that post across forums, and I'm not sure if that's allowed or not.  He might be the original author of this post in reddit (they have the same usernames on both here and reddit), but shouldn't there be some sort of indication that the info was posted somewhere else?
8  Economy / Reputation / Re: Another mad. May be need more paint. on: January 16, 2019, 08:26:30 PM
Uh, yeah.  Don't click on those reference links at work.  Just a warning.

He's not on DT2, right?  I've seen his name before, but I can't recall where.  Obviously he's gone into full troll mode, which seems to be happening a lot lately.  Those feedbacks he left are obviously ridiculous retaliatory attacks and should be discarded by anyone with a brain.
9  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 16, 2019, 06:58:29 PM
Take Alex_Sr's Sent feedback for example
Ugh.  Some of the members he left trust for probably deserve it, but this is exactly what a new DT2 member shouldn't be doing.  When I got added to DT2 last year, I got quite a few PMs from DT members suggesting some changes to my feedbacks and recommendations that I hand out positives very conservatively.  New DT members should not be going nuts, handing out green trust like that--especially without reference links, but even with the links I think they ought to just slow down and not go on a positive (or negative) trust rampage.

I'm not going to act as far as exclusions or counter-negs.  Hopefully Alex_Sr (and anyone else who's doing the same thing) will see this thread and maybe think twice about his feedbacks. 
10  Other / Meta / Re: im still Newbie..still not update to jr. member on: January 16, 2019, 05:09:43 PM
Grin I don't understand why he plagiarized. Is this the farmer's bounty account?
Likely because he knew he needed one merit to rank up and thus had to make a very good post to get it.  Not being very proficient in English, he decided to take the path that many new members take and just copy/paste something useful from the internet and claim it as their own. 

That's my guess, but it doesn't really matter.  He's not the first to do it and certainly won't be the last, and this is also a good example of why giving merits to Newbies is so difficult.  You have to check to see if what looks to be a decent post is plagiarized, because only rarely does this forum attract new members proficient in English. 

Most new members come here to make money and can only do so in the main sections where they're forced to write in a language that frankly they're not typically very good at.  It wouldn't be a problem if bounties and sig campaigns paid for posts in the local boards, but alas that's usually not the case.
11  Other / Meta / Re: im still Newbie..still not update to jr. member on: January 16, 2019, 03:39:10 PM
OP's post:

To most people, cryptocurrencies are typically thought of as high-risk investment. However, what is getting somewhat lost amid the hype and speculation is that most decentralized digital currencies, such as bitcoin, were created to ‘do something’ and so have a wide range of powerful use cases. Here are some
 
1 Low cost money transfers
2 Alternative store of wealth
3 Make private transactions
4 Fund raising
5 Invest in innovative early-stage startups

....is plagiarized from here.  Reported, welcome to bitcointalk.
12  Other / Meta / Re: MICROPENIS ON CRYPTOCUNT CONFIRMED - DONALD TRUMP TOLD ME on: January 16, 2019, 03:35:22 PM
Quote from: TMAN
Re: MICROPENIS ON CRYPTOCUNT CONFIRMED - DONALD TRUMP TOLD ME
Don't know if I'm quoting this correctly but that made me laugh.  Notice that it's not even his own thread (even though it's pretty obvious it's an alt account).  I've already said my piece on what the thread is supposed to be about, but this drama and level of trolling are just so over the top that it's laughable and is keeping me tuned in.

It's sad how he's got to resort to alt accounts to try to suck me into this, as he knows I've got him on ignore. 
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: cryptocoin guaranteed by gold on: January 16, 2019, 03:13:02 PM
That concept isn't anything new as far as I remember.  I seem to recall something like it being discussed a few years ago at least, and either nothing has been created or it hasn't been successful--nor do I think a gold-backed crypto would be successful.  If you want to own gold, you can buy gold.  If you want crypto, you can buy crypto.  If you want to speculate in gold without actually owning it, there's a market for that in derivatives/futures/ETFs/mining stocks.  There's absolutely no need to combine crypto with gold or anything else IMO.

I'm pretty sure every country in the world is off the gold standard at this point, and I know the US has been off of it since the 70s.  It would be a step backward at best for a currency to try to get back to the point of being backed by a metal.  You can create a crypto with a limited supply such that you avoid the unlimited inflation inherent in currencies like the USD, which is the main problem nowadays. 
14  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Does Real Wealth Get Lost When Bitcoin "Crashes"? on: January 16, 2019, 02:38:25 PM
Bitcoinand other speculative assets such as stocks do no generate wealth.
Did I miss the standard definition of "wealth"?  I know a lot of people define their wealth in terms of how much they have in the stock market/bitcoin/whatever other investment.  If Berkshire Hathaway crashed to $1 today, you don't think there would be reports all over the place that Warren Buffett had lost most of his "wealth"?  Sure they would.

Real wealth is having time to enjoy the pleasures in life, and in being able to preserve your good health. You don't own property, property owns you. I'm much happier, and having more fun, since I have stopped the pursuit of economic gain and excessive acquisitions.
I'm with you all the way on that one.  Not that I don't enjoy the stock market or bitcoin as a hobby, but I don't chase material possessions to make me happy.  I don't even own a car, just a bicycle.
15  Other / Meta / Re: Racism is allowed? on: January 16, 2019, 02:21:05 PM
TMANSGANG - any better?

TMANG

Drop the A for a knuckle tattoo.
Assuming you have two hands, TMAN GANG would fit perfectly onto both of them.  Just sayin', for those who want to be totally bitcoin gangstas.
16  Economy / Economics / Re: Russia Prepares To Buy Up To $10 Billion In Bitcoin To Evade US Sanctions on: January 16, 2019, 02:08:27 PM
According to sources russia may be poised to purchase as much as $10 billion dollars in bitcoin starting in february of 2019.
If this is <snip>
Yeah, sounds like pure speculation then, just like if everyone in the world bought just one ounce of silver, the price would skyrocket to $50,000.  I used to read crap like that on sites like ZH back in 2012 or so.  Meanwhile gold is still under $1300 where it's been for a long time now, and that's evidently after Russia did this buying, correct?  So I would definitely take anything written on ZH with more than a few grains of salt--I learned that a long time ago after reading nonstop gold & silver hyping on that website.  If you wonder why they have a bad reputation, it's basically because they reinforce the constant shilling of precious metals dealers--how many times can I read that hyperinflation is coming to the US and the dollar is going to crash and that gold & silver will be the new reigning currency before I get jaded?

Meanwhile, Venezuela is actually experiencing hyperinflation and I don't recall anyone predicting that on ZH 7 years ago, nor have I read much about Venezuelans turning to gold, silver, or crypto en masse.  Some of them are using crypto, but I think most are using the revalued currency or a foreign one.

Anyway, thanks for posting the article, Hydrogen.  Even if it's from ZeroHedge it still has at least entertainment value.
17  Other / Meta / Re: Merit Source Message on: January 16, 2019, 01:31:49 AM
I do wonder however if they feel they have earned the 2300+ merits that the community has bestowed upon them. I suspect there might be some doubt.
Oh I'm sure there a lot of doubt.  I have no control over who gives me merits, though.  Foxpup in particular seems to have a hard-on for my posts, but I didn't ask for them, I don't know him, and I don't think I've had so much as a single PM from him.

My point is here are two well respected members telling other people how to think and act..  
I wasn't trying to do that, but I'm exercising my own right to not merit OP's post and I'm just giving my opinion.  I'm opinionated for sure, but OP is free to do as he pleases with his sMerits and I couldn't stop him if I wanted to.  I tried to get across that I have no beef with him, but obviously I'm not communicating it well.

It's to the point that I almost refuse to merit legendary members at all unless it is truly profound or cutting edge. I try and bestow what little merit I gain to newbies trying to gain a foothold so as to entice more participation as a whole or to member who I feel are close to ranking up a level.
I have said almost the exact same thing recently, that I do my best to favor the lower-ranked members who 'need' the merit to rank up, and if you look at my merit-giving history you ought to be able to see that I try to spread the love around as far and wide as I can.  I don't think what you'll see is me constantly meriting the same members over and over.  There's nothing I'd like more than to have a bunch of great posts by Newbie to Sr. Member accounts, but those are scarce in the sections I frequent.  

When I try to find good posts in sections like Bitcoin Discussion or Economics, it's really tough.  The sad fact is that most people just write one line responses to the thread's title, usually in terrible English, and often it's the more senior members who write the thoughtful posts--I see it again and again.  But hey, glad you came by to voice your opinion which I considered thoughtful and thus (in my eyes) worthy of some merit.  Everyone has their own standards.

Edit:
Which is actually odd. You would think that the Economics section in particular would be a great place for in depth analysis, and discussion relating to that.
Sometimes it is, which is why I read a lot of threads there.  Hydrogen starts quite a few threads with interesting news article quotes and sparks the discussion with his input on the article.  Sometimes I give him merits (he's a Hero member, BTW), sometimes not, but I'm always looking for relative newcomers who make good posts in threads like his--and those are kind of rare.  The Economics section is one of the ones where a lot of garbage posters go to unload their one liners for whatever bounty they're in, just like BD but not quite as bad.

What can I say, I'm picky when it comes to giving out merits but I think I should be.  That was the whole point behind the inception of the merit system.  I'm pretty sure Theymos didn't create it just for shits & giggles.
18  Other / Meta / Re: Merit Source Message on: January 16, 2019, 12:38:53 AM
but when a fellow SOURCE member has a moment of being generous "even not toward spammers etc" then I just cannot follow why he don't get any support from fellow MERITSOURCES ..... (its all the same team you guys) Smiley
Well in my particular case, I would not have merited those posts, so I don't feel the need to give my sMerits to OP.  He either needs to wait for his source supply to get replenished or ask Theymos for some more, like I did.  Know what I'm saying?  As I said, I'm not yelling at OP for meriting shitposts--but I'm also not going to offer help in this case other than with my words.

... Can we just move on FFS? Smiley
My thoughts exactly, but I'm sure OP still wants Theymos to see this.  I think.
19  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: The scam exchange SistemKoin closed my account without refund my crypto on: January 16, 2019, 12:31:20 AM
OP, unless you present some proof of a scam, this thread is pretty much useless.  I get that you're angry, but this section is for "officially" reporting scams, and that means including some proof with your accusation, i.e., it's not just a section to bitch about the scamminess of a particular exchange.  My suggestion is to either fill out the proper scam accusation form, which can be found in the stickies on the first page of the section or lock the thread. 

Sad to see you are having troubles with that exchange which I've never heard about.
I've never heard of this one either.  I guess we're really in the Wild West stage of crypto, where anyone can create their own exchange in countries where the laws are lax about such things.
20  Other / Meta / Re: Merit Source Message on: January 15, 2019, 11:54:26 PM
Anyone can send merit to whoever they like, why we need to justify if we give people merit. I think people should be more generous and not so greedy over stupid merit points. I think the OP has a good positive mindet, we need it more here Smiley
I agree with you, but there's limits.  If we have a merit source who's giving merits to shitposts, then the system becomes a little more useless.  If all merit sources did this, the system would be completely useless.  The whole reason we have the merit system is to suppress shitposters from ranking up, so if sources just give them out with no consideration to how good the post is....what's the point?

The OP looks drunk at best.
Maybe that's the reason.  I haven't looked at his meriting history, but he got selected to be a merit source and therefore I have to assume he earned that position and doesn't make this a habit.  Hopefully.

Edit:
then why would it be so wrong?
It's not unless it's a pattern of rewarding shitposters, which I don't see here.  If I thought OP was abusing the merit system, my posts would be quite different.  In my mind I picture him as a hooka pipe-smoking hippie spreading free love around as if it were the 1960s.  As I said, if he got made a merit source in the first place he's probably not a serial merit mis-user.  True, we've had a couple of those but Theymos picks them pretty well.
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