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241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero under scrutiny of the FBI on: February 01, 2017, 02:58:27 AM
It works both ways. Monero can also protect law enforcement from the kind of attack proposed in this thread regarding the SilkRoad coins. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306809.0 Ethereum has proven that it is actually possible to do this on a blockchain in the clear.

So here is the question for law enforcement. You seize Bitcoin or Ethereum as proceeds of crime. Then the "community" decides to undo the seizure without any form of due process. How do you prevent this? Now with Monero law enforcement is actually protected from this kind of attack.    

Edit 1: The majority of the hashpower for Bitcoin is in China. Food for thought for US based law enforcement.
Edit 2: A taint attack against the seized coins is also possible. Fungibility works both ways.
242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How can XMR be more private than BTC if XMR will have an huge blockchain? on: January 28, 2017, 12:31:02 AM
Lets talk about sybil attack resistance for a moment, what is to prevent an entity (lets say an authority like Interpol) from setting up 800 full nodes for 10$ each
and use it to attack, disrupt or snoop in on Monero's network in its intensified fight against darknet markets ?

Security-wise the low number of full nodes and its direct connection to darknet markets is making Monero very vulnerable.
Even with 2000 full nodes, the situation does not really change .. this will still be a weakness for Monero as its direct connection to darknet markets is
putting a bullseye on Monero.  

With regards to blockchain size i think in a few years when the blockchain has grown considerably, Monero will face the same problems that Bitcoin is facing currently,
by not rewarding people to run full nodes its full nodes network will deminish over time.
  



No it will not. .

Monero has an adaptive blocksize limit that avoids the whole Bitcoin blocksize debate. This adaptive blocksize limit works because Monero has a minimum block reward  of 0.6 XMR per block in perpetuity. This means that there is no need to rely on transaction fees to secure the proof of work (miners) as is the case not only in Bitcoin but in coins such as Dash that have a fixed maximum number of coins. In the case of Dash the problem is magnified since the falling block reward has to support not only the proof of work but also the masternode network and the funding of projects.

Once the fees are no longer required to support the proof of work etc., they can actually be used to create a market for scaling the blocksize. One significant advantage of this is that it avoids the kind of spam attacks against the memory pool that were recently launched against Bitcoin. These attacks rely on the fact that the bulk of the spam will never be mined because of the fixed  blcoksize effectively having a minimal cost to the spammer. As someone who runs full Bitcoin nodes I am well aware of the bandwith costs of these spam attacks.

Bitcoin's problems, or Dash's problems for that matter, with scaling cannot be solved with a continuation of Moore Law, Nielsen's Law etc. alone, because of the falling block reward approaching towards zero over time.
243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what are factors behind the success of Monero on: January 28, 2017, 12:11:31 AM
Another factor that is orthogonal to fungibility, privacy and anonymity is that Monero has an adaptive blocksize limit that avoids the problems with a fixed 1 MB blocksize limit in Bitcoin. This adaptive blocksize limit actually works because Monero has a minimum block reward (tail emission) of 0.6 XMR per block.
244  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-01-22] Recommendations From A Global Conference On The Use Of Digital C... on: January 24, 2017, 06:55:54 AM
From the article in the OP

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All countries are advised to consider the creation of the crime of unexplained wealth ...
Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? I suspect this will attract the attention of constitutional lawyers in many parts of the world.
245  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: More than 50,000 unconfirmed transactions on: January 24, 2017, 06:36:16 AM
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Ok, So this is an attack targeted at nodes. Why would someone go through all the trouble to do that? Can this be a strategy to force people to accept SegWit or to make them realize that it is needed? The other possibility is that this is a external attack from a competitor, to take the network down.

What would be your opinion on the motive for this attack?

I suspect it is related to the blocksize issue. For example force a bigger blocksize etc. It will not bring down the Bitcoin network at least at the current levels, but it is having a negative impact. Increasing bandwidth costs for nodes, slowing down legitimate transactions, etc.
246  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: More than 50,000 unconfirmed transactions on: January 24, 2017, 05:19:53 AM
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The spammer increasing their fees just causes legitimate transaction fees to increase since wallets use dynamic fee calculators, this prices the spammer out of the blocks since transaction fees are relatively small for the legitimate users but large for the spammer(since they are trying to buy a lot of block space). Without a cap fees would likely be too low to price the spammer out of the blocks.

The point of the spam is not to buy blockspace since there is way too much spam for that, or even compete with the ham but only to spam the nodes. Fee filters are not a defense since the spammer sets her fees above the filter but below the ham. 
247  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: More than 50,000 unconfirmed transactions on: January 24, 2017, 04:03:50 AM
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Feerate filters will generally drop spam transactions and prevent those with too low of fees from getting relayed. The block size limit is actually fairly effective at preventing most of the spam from getting mined. What you're missing is that the resources costs to nodes for spam transactions that get mined are far higher than those that do not. Raising the block size actually has the effect of making spam attacks worse since more spam would be mined and take up resources/create more UTXO's.

Actually the spammer simply increases her fees. One must keep in mind that the spammer relies the fact that only a very small portion of the spam transactions will actually get mined regardless of the fees because of the fixed blocksize. A dynamic blocksize with a proper fee structure can be a very effective deterrent against this type of spam attack because by threatening to mine the spam it imposes a very significant risk to the spammer.

248  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SegWit yay or nay? come vote here. on: January 24, 2017, 03:42:49 AM
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i was also with dynamic block but i've heard there are some problems, first of all is if an attacker is abusing the network by flooding it and increase the dynamic block momentarily, this will lead to some sort of centralization toward strong node

the other thing is to follow the monero project with its dynamic block, but it will change a bit the fundamental economy of bitcoin, making it inflate for a small amount like monero did

The issue with a dynamic blocksize, following a model similar to that of Monero, in Bitcoin is that there is eventually no incentive for the miners as the base reward falls. The reason the dynamic blocksize works in Monero is that Monero has a minimum base reward of 0.6 XMR per block. A rough equivalent in Bitcoin would be 3 XBT per block in perpetuity. Fees have little or no impact on mining security in Monero. They are actually there to control the blocksize increase and deter spam attacks. So unless one is prepared to violate the 21 million XBT maximum limit, I am afraid there may be little that the Monero project may be able to offer Bitcoin on blocksize scaling.

What I must strongly caution against is taking elements of Monero's dynamic blocksize, with critical security components removed, and expecting them to work in Bitcoin. This I am afraid can easily lead to disaster.

Edit: The total fees per block in Monero are actually set to be proportional to the block reward. Think about this when combined with a block reward that falls to zero over time.
249  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: More than 50,000 unconfirmed transactions on: January 24, 2017, 03:06:50 AM
This kind of attack works because the spammer sends spam at a much faster rate than the Bitcoin network with its fixed 1 MB blocksize can possibly mine. There is consequently little or no cost to the spammer other than the spammer's own bandwidth. There is a significant cost to the network; however in driving up the bandwidth costs of those of us who run full nodes, with the likely result of driving down the number of full Bitcoin nodes.

A ~60% effective blocksize increase via say SegWit alone will not address this kind of spam attack.
250  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-01-21] Covenants’ Mean You Can Burn Stolen Bitcoins on: January 21, 2017, 11:31:57 PM
Yeah stop using a closed source backdoored system! (windows)
stop using castodian wallets!
Use a external open source token (trezor) or a paper wallet (long time storage) depending on your needs!
People will learn , like they did in the 50 / 60 / 70s with cars!


Getting rid of Windows is a must here. Covenants fail when the Windows malware steals both keys, so would a paper wallet created on a Windows system with malware for the same reason.
251  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to Face Reality in 2017 ... on: January 18, 2017, 02:03:16 AM
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If at some point there is an altcoin that replaces bitcoin then it would need to be a lot better than bitcoin in order to displace it out of the top spot that it currently has, it will need to be faster, anonymous, with a more stable price and more.

The key point here is that it must be able to meet transaction demand and that means an adaptive blocksize limit and long term security for the coin. Bitcoin in its current implementation fails this test and proposals such as Segwit and Lightning Network are at best a one time scaling.
252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETHEREUM - we pay for development for banks use for free? how to charge them? on: January 17, 2017, 11:53:24 PM
You may want to consider the GNU AGPL https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html It is free libre open source software however it is a very strong copyleft that also applies to software on  server used by the public. In effect his forces the bank to share their software improvements back with the community.

A dual license between the AGPL or GPL and closed source for a fee can work very well. The user is given the choice of playing by FLOSS rules and contributing code back to the community or playing by proprietary rules, the get to keep their own code secret but also have to pay license fees. There is a reason why copyleft was invented over 1/4 century ago.  https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pragmatic.html

Edit: Qt is a project that does exactly this. Combine strong copyleft with proprietary in a dual license https://www.qt.io/licensing/
253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: January 16, 2017, 10:09:03 PM
Well, the german speaking are thinking of something like this  Grin

Die deutschen Bären
254  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: January 10, 2017, 05:41:48 PM
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It depends on how you define inflation. Bitcoin has no inflation if you examine the total supply of bitcoins to be 21 million. The same applies to gold - there is some fixed amount of gold on planet earth assuming no heavenly body will crash on Tellus. The amount will not increase (to make new gold discoveries will not affect the entire gold supply).

This is one of the most common misconceptions about gold. The economic (mined) gold that is traded and treated as a scare resource is about 0.00047% of the surface gold on earth. http://www.westcoastplacer.com/how-much-gold-is-left-on-earth/. There is a lot of gold on earth, it is just very expensive to get at it. There is also gold in the earth's core, gold from nuclear reactions and gold from mining asteroids. A much better model for economic gold is a small inflation rate from an "infinite" source.

To put things into perspective. After many thousands of years of mining gold there is a ~1% annual inflation rate, compare this to Bitcoin where the annual inflation rate falls to below 1% in under 20 years.
255  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: January 10, 2017, 06:44:31 AM

In order for crypto to become to become "asset class among metals, land, RE, bonds and fiat," it will need to be able to handle transaction volumes, on the main chain.

No it doesn't. The Monero meetup participant you talked to clearly had no clue what he was talking about. Larger blocks (or cheaper transactions) makes Bitcoin less valuable not more.

The largest problem I have with Monero is the tail emission. It's my second favorite crypto (after XBT of course)

I agree on this point on Monero. I would prefer fixed amount of coins and I tried to promote it (and suggested to smoothen the emission curve from quite early). I guess it would also have had a positive impact on the progress of development as the value of Monero would have gone up earlier.
But now I am fine with the emission and most likely Monero will gain some value against bitcoin from the current value but thanks to the tail emission most likely the most extreme valuations are not likely (that doesn't mean Monero will not reach trillions of dollars market cap - even more inflationary currencies have managed to do so).
You mean gold?

Edit: One of the considerations with setting the tail emission in Monero was to have an inflation rate below that of gold.
256  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: January 09, 2017, 04:15:05 PM
I guess im quite conservative with my 2.5 - 3k prediction Smiley

If crypto ever is to become an asset class among metals, land, RE, bonds and fiat, it will have to be x1000 higher than now.

So we are in front of 3 questions:

In order for crypto to become to become "asset class among metals, land, RE, bonds and fiat," it will need to be able to handle transaction volumes, on the main chain. at least comparable to the un-leveraged or  "monetary base" level of these assets. This will be possible if the current trends of falling real costs of CPU time, bandwidth, digital storage, digital memory etc. continue. I am talking of a continuation of the trends of the last 50 years.

- whether (after 8 years of consecutive ATHs and continuous progress, if it still was a fad...)
No
- how (BTC can keep its position, or something else...)
I doubt very much that Bitcoin will keep its position over the long term since the current Bitcoin protocol is hard coded to not scale the number of transactions per second (blocksize) and the only viable long term blocksize scaling solutions that I am aware of, and are sustainable would be very similar to those of Monero. The trouble with Monero like blocksize scaling solutions in Bitcoin is that they require a tail emission, which would be an unacceptable  change in the Bitcoin social covenant.
- when (how high do we go now, how high next time...)
It is possible that over the short term we may see an increase in the Bitcoin price above the last ATH; however over the long term I remain a bear with respect to Bitcoin because of the long term fundamentals of the blocksize issue. At the recent San Francisco Monero meetup one of the participants commented to me: "The product is transactions".  If one limits the number of transactions per second one in effect is limiting sales. This begs the question would one invest in a company for long term growth that has a hard limit on the gross sales?

I still hold a nominal amount of Bitcoin; however since September 2015; I have replaced the bulk of my Bitcoin holdings with a combination of Monero, Canadian Dollars and US Dollars. This portfolio of Monero, Canadian Dollars and US Dollars has out performed Bitcoin handsomely during this period of time with a significantly lower downside risk.

Edit: The rise of the order of 10^6 in the price of Bitcoin between December 2009 and December 2013 followed by at best a flat market since December 2013 can be explained as Bitcoin's growth until the 1 MB blocks were filled up followed by stagnation since the 1 MB blocks were full. Another way to put this is an increase in the value of a company until the hard gross sales cap was reached.
257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 28, 2016, 12:44:03 AM
Monero is #2 in volume today on coinmarketcap.com
Second only to Bitcoin in volume. (Monero 24hr volume = $10,682,800)

Sheesh, how is this possible with so few exchanges trading Monero?


It is possible because XMR/XBT on Poloniex is the 4th largest Bitcoin market. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets I have seen in the past where it was the largest Bitcoin market.
258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Poll] Why are you in an altcoin involved ? on: December 24, 2016, 11:36:02 PM
Other: The fixed blocksize limit in Bitcoin.

I have been involved with Bitcoin since 2011. Yes I have read Satoshi's paper https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf and believe in the vision for Bitcoin as presented in the introduction:

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1. Introduction

Commerce on the Internet has come to rely almost exclusively on financial institutions serving as trusted third parties to process electronic payments. While the system works well enough for most transactions, it still suffers from the inherent weaknesses of the trust based model. Completely non-reversible transactions are not really possible, since financial institutions cannot avoid mediating disputes. The cost of mediation increases transaction costs, limiting the minimum practical transaction size and cutting off the possibility for small casual transactions, and there is a broader cost in the loss of ability to make non-reversible payments for non-reversible services. With the possibility of reversal, the need for trust spreads. Merchants must be wary of their customers, hassling them for more information than they would otherwise need.

A certain percentage of fraud is accepted as unavoidable. These costs and payment uncertainties can be avoided in person by using physical currency, but no mechanism exists to make payments over a communications channel without a trusted party. What is needed is an electronic payment system based on cryptographic proof instead of trust, allowing any two willing parties to transact directly with each other without the need for a trusted third  party. Transactions that are computationally impractical to reverse would protect sellers from fraud, and routine escrow mechanisms could easily be implemented to protect buyers. In this paper, we propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer distributed timestamp server to generate computational proof of the chronological order of transactions. The system is secure as long as honest nodes collectively control more CPU power than any cooperating group of attacker nodes.

I have quoted this before. The critical part is in bold. The reality is that Bitcoin cannot meet the stated vision and objective with a fixed protocol limit of approximately three transactions per second on the blockchain. I came upon Monero in 2014 on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624223.0 while researching the blocksize issue in Bitcoin. At that point my total involvement with alt-coins was Namecoin which I had obtained as a by product of mining Bitcoin, and subsequently successfully traded for Bitcoin during the Bitcoin bull market of 2013. I had enough respect for Risto as a member of this community for me to at least do some due diligence on Monero even though there was no mention of the blocksize issue as a reason to buy Monero in the post. After discovering that Monero has at least the a reasonable chance of a viable solution to the blocksize issue in Bitcoin the rest became history. Many if not most of the supporters and detractors of Monero consider Monero primarially a fungibility, anonymity, privacy coin. My take is that Monero first addresses a much more fundamental issue; namely the ability to be able to transact in the first place. After all there is little point is having concerns over fungibility, anonymity and privacy of one's transactions if one is not even able to transact to begin with.

Edit 1: By far the majority of POW coins have the same fixed blocksize issue as Bitcoin with in some cases the ball being kicked down the road. Notable examples are: Litecoin, and "Monero competitors" such as Dash and ZCash.

Edit 2: I have come to the conclusion that for a Monero style adaptive blocksize to work a trail or permanent emission is an absolute must. Given that this involves for most POW coins a radical change in the social covenant I do not see a simple solution for most POW coins including Bitcon here. One notable exception is Dogecoin since it already has a tail emission.
259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: My Speculation Thread (Charts and Analysis Included ;)) on: December 20, 2016, 02:44:12 AM
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The capping of ETC's coin supply is not a rumor, it's true.  If this is truly a bull trap remains to be seen, as we could be witnessing a start of a large trend coming.  I base this assessment on the increasing hashing power of ETC.  The miners from ETH could be pointing their rigs to ETC now because Vitalik seems motivated in switching to POS.

In the short term moving away from a fixed coin reward may create an increase in price in ETC because of the increase in scarcity, but fundamentally this is a very bad move over the longterm. The falling coin reward will put into serious question the ability of ETC to scale while at the same time maintaining the security of the proof of work.

It would be very ironic if capping the the coin supply in ETC leads to ETC surpassing XMR in market cap while at the same time removing ETC as a competitor of XMR in the area of an adaptive blocksize with a secure proof of work. As I have said before I have not seen a solution for an adaptive blocksize with a secure proof of work without a minimum tail reward. Minimum fixed fees in the protocol is not the answer here. This could easily become very serious long term pain in exchange for some short term gains for ETC, and some short term pain in exchange for long term gains for XMR.  
260  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 20, 2016, 02:20:53 AM
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People in this scene don't know how important and rare this is.

This is very true. Take for example the monetary policy move by ETC away from a tail emission similar to Monero to a falling emission similar to Bitcoin.


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