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1  Other / Politics & Society / What if the minimum wage was set to 1 Bitcoin per hour? on: January 09, 2012, 04:06:51 AM
What would be the economic effects of setting a scarce currency to such legislation?

Let's assume Bitcoins can only be legal tender in this situation. Nothing else.
2  Bitcoin / Project Development / r/EndTheBanks - One (1) Bitcoin Prize for Top 1000th Post on: January 09, 2012, 04:01:33 AM
http://www.reddit.com/r/endthebanks/

I will be giving a Bitcoin to the top 1000th post submitted on the r/EndTheBanks reddit; whoever has the link/selfpost with the most upvotes within 1000 posts on the subreddit will win.

If you win, you can either send me your Bitcoin address directly on here, Reddit or post it within your link/selfpost. I will contact you directly otherwise. You will have a total of 30 days to claim the prize, otherwise it is forfeit.

Thanks!
3  Other / Off-topic / In this thread, everybody changes their avatar to a bear. on: January 09, 2012, 12:47:03 AM
We have good bears, bad bears and evil bears.

We need more bears.
4  Other / Off-topic / Re: Abolish the Minimum Wage Law on: January 08, 2012, 08:24:23 PM
Raise the minimum wage so that more people have more money which they can spend, stimulating the economy.

All that would do is devalue an already worthless dollar. It would create nothing. If anything, it would raise food costs and force employers to raise prices.

It's called inflation. It doesn't work and it sustained The Great Depression. Bernanke and friends keep telling you it works and you believe it does in the face of destruction.

Hurr Durr Keynesianism

I think you are confused. Case in point: Australia.

Australia has thriving trade agreements with one of the world's only sovereign nations: China. The Chinese currency is actually owned by the people that hold it. It's not backed by debt and the Australians benefit from it.

I think you are confusing Keynesian policy with actual productive activity.

Now UN and NATO influence is putting American troops on Australian soil. You know why?

The banks don't like the economic freedom around there one freaking bit. It's not going to last for long. I am going to put my money on it.

The Eastern hemisphere's sovereignty is going to be challenged tooth-and-nail in the coming decades and most of it is going to be done through war and war never changes. It debases currency and destroys sovereignty. It will all be centralized into larger nations, fewer currencies and more control.


So $17/hr minimum wage is paid by China? Can you elaborate?

There is not much economic freedom in Australia. Its banking and industry are heavily regulated.

No, the Chinese don't get paid in debt. They get paid in actual currency. That's why there is no such thing as a jobless Chinese: there is actual wealth creation and not a hopeless circle of debt.

If you were to pay off all of Australia's debt, there would be no more Australian banknotes. Australian citizen's get paid in currency that is owned by Chinese and European shareholder's that can be taken away from the citizens at anytime.

You're right, there's not. Again, they are living off the Chinese: they own the country.  An Australian's productivity is only collateral much like a US citizen's.



You have not addressed Australia's $17/hr minimum wage, it's socialized medicine or how it is funded. You keep going on about China. China exploits its natural resources for profit, just like every other country on earth. So why is everyone there so poor? Why the China circle-jerk, rather than an explanation?

Do you think australia is a big wasteland with people working for China? What about all the industry?

Side note,

It's funded by subsidization and an endless cycle of unsustainable debt provided by China.

China has poor people but the poor don't stay poor forever. They have an economic ladder than actually be reached from the bottom. Australia does not.
5  Other / Politics & Society / Re: You know what's racist? on: January 08, 2012, 08:21:15 PM

You know what's not racist?

Voting for Ron Paul and ending these violent wars.
Ron Paul voted against civil rights
No, he voted for civil rights at a state level.
6  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Voting for Ron Paul is voting for love on: January 08, 2012, 07:56:46 PM
Personally, Ron Paul seems all right, but I'm not voting for somebody who voted against Civil Rights, and Obama has already recalled all of the ared forces in Iraq, which is really he main issue here
No, you've been deceived. The troops remain.

The title of "war" has removed.
Link me to your Alex Jones blog, Atlas please....
I haven't been reading Alex Jones lately. I have been reading the civilian reports of continued American oppression.
7  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama's Plan to End the Wars: Redefine It on: January 08, 2012, 07:54:17 PM
And on what do you base this?
The fact he leaves troops and military bases in Iraq and says we are not there anymore.

It's only 30k diplomatic defense forces and a really big embassy Wink.

He can call it whatever he wants. The fact is the people of Iraq want us out of there and we continue to incite violence by staying there in whatever form.

You're also ignoring the PMCs that fight the middle-east resistance on our dime.
8  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The last president that tried to end the FED was assassinated. on: January 08, 2012, 07:51:30 PM
Thing's aren't any worse in America, than any other industrialized country... We all have debt, we all shit, we all sleep. Anything else is over-dramatization at it's finest... Don't believe everything you read on the Internet... -_-
Things are the worst in America. We have the world reserve country and it's owned by private shareholders all across the world and it continues to be diluted.
9  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama's Plan to End the Wars: Redefine It on: January 08, 2012, 07:47:54 PM
And on what do you base this?
The fact he leaves troops and military bases in Iraq and says we are not there anymore.
10  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The last president that tried to end the FED was assassinated. on: January 08, 2012, 07:46:22 PM
If all the countries paid off all their debts, few countries would actually collapse. The world is doing quite fine
Most countries would collapse since every note is owned by somebody else. Most currencies are backed by debt.

China and a few other sovereign countries may survive.
11  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Voting for Ron Paul is voting for love on: January 08, 2012, 07:41:48 PM
Personally, Ron Paul seems all right, but I'm not voting for somebody who voted against Civil Rights, and Obama has already recalled all of the ared forces in Iraq, which is really he main issue here
No, you've been deceived. The troops remain.

The title of "war" has been removed.
12  Other / Politics & Society / Obama's Plan to End the Wars: Redefine It on: January 07, 2012, 05:30:09 AM
Don't call them wars. You call it "Defending Peace Abroad". The populace won't be as fearful and think "Oh, our soldiers are maintaining PEACE." Yeah, peace.

Peace - Occupying every nation with troops, mandating martial law and killing everything that tries to resist to maintain their homeland along with every man, woman and child that gets stuck in the middle.

NOW WAR IS PEACE.

Organized resistance in the name of independence is terrorism. Organized oppression is giving people "democracy" and "freedom".
13  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Voting for Ron Paul is voting for love on: January 07, 2012, 05:11:01 AM
Yes, I mean the entire newsletters. So that we can get some context.
Dude will you give it a rest already?

How about you stop calling people who know more than you trolls, and start learning how to use GOOGLE you clown.

And for the rest of the Paul defenders, who have read these news letters, and still think he's not racist.

You're all fucking nuts...

Or just plain old racist yourself...

If defending peace and lives is considered racist, I'm the biggest racist here. 
14  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Voting for Ron Paul is voting for love on: January 07, 2012, 05:09:47 AM
I will tell you right now I will vote for him unless these detractors convince me it will lead to racist policies. So far all I see is selective publication of his old newsletters by really, really annoying snarky people.


Unfortunately that usually works.... attack the people posting the information, not the information itself. 
The information itself is irrelevant to the ends at hand: The lives of people.

If Ron Paul is a racist, it doesn't matter. His purported racist views haven't hurt a single person.
15  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Voting for Ron Paul is voting for love on: January 07, 2012, 05:07:07 AM
I don't know the name for that fallacy. It is something like "he did it so why can't I", plus it ignores that ron paul was never in the position to be personally responsible for national security decisions. We need to get away from this kind of arguing, it weakens the individual in favor of organizations with big megaphones.

It's no fallacy. The fact is this nation has to choose from Obama and Ron Paul. One will end the wars, the other won't.

Also, Ron Paul has voted consistently against war in Congress for over 30 years.

Most are going to vote for guaranteed welfare checks. Who cares about the victims overseas? Who cares that the wars are going to eventually make your welfare check impossible to pay for?

Fuck the dying brown people, fuck the sustainability of this nation, I got my welfare check. Now excuse me while I riot against the producers of this nation for trying to protect what they have earned and this nation.
What are you talking about? Barack Obama ended the war in Iraq, and is scaling down the war in Afghanistan.

Once again WHAT wars are you talking about?

There are still troops fighting in Iraq. There are still troops fighting in Afghanistan. There are still troops acting under UN, NATO and other influences around the world.

That is not even counting the PMCs inciting fighting violence everywhere under American funding. In fact, I await the day they neuter public defense and contract it all out to PMCs and claim "We're not at war! We're at peace! Durr hurr hurr."

Then they'll get all the Occupy suckers distracted and blame it on "War-mongering Capitalists" when the PMCs are acting under government funding in the first place. This is all a step towards that. They are gradually gearing your minds to a total war-zone masked under the guise of a nation at peace.

Simply put: Obama can say the wars are over but the troops are still there in action. It's just a changing of names. You're buying into government propaganda.
16  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Voting for Ron Paul is voting for love on: January 07, 2012, 05:05:24 AM
Regardless of whether he is racist himself, he should be keeping an eye on what is written in his name. Part of the whole idea is personal responsibility and taking care of your own space. I'm pretty sure he has owned up to his mistake though, and at this point he just doesn't want to give any more soundbites. But, really from what I've seen I would like to see more. That is not conclusive evidence coming from snarky people with political agendas.
Obama has killed more brown people than Ron Paul has ever helped conceive.
Yeah, cause President Obama went around, and killed all these "brown people" single handily...



Yes, he essentially has. He has the power to cite the Constitution and stop the murders at anytime.
17  Other / Politics & Society / Re: You know what's racist? on: January 07, 2012, 03:47:37 AM
Every military base we have stationed around the world is a ticking time bomb and a potential war.

Also, this:

18  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Voting for Ron Paul is voting for love on: January 07, 2012, 03:40:31 AM

Quote
He really does not like gay people.  

He didn't write the comments.

In any case, the comments don't even register on the radar compared to other politicians' support of devastating wars and sanctions against other countries. Ultimately all that matters is his political positions.

He doesn't have an issue with "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". I would say that is quite offensive to homosexuals and indicative of a distaste for them.

I advocate "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in the sense that homosexuals are too good for the US military. I commend making it uncomfortable for anybody to join the US military.

I don't know Ron Paul's reasons but making soldier's comfortable while they destroy this country shouldn't be at the top of our to-do list.
19  Other / Off-topic / Re: Abolish the Minimum Wage Law on: January 07, 2012, 03:30:13 AM
Raise the minimum wage so that more people have more money which they can spend, stimulating the economy.

All that would do is devalue an already worthless dollar. It would create nothing. If anything, it would raise food costs and force employers to raise prices.

It's called inflation. It doesn't work and it sustained The Great Depression. Bernanke and friends keep telling you it works and you believe it does in the face of destruction.

Hurr Durr Keynesianism

I think you are confused. Case in point: Australia.

Australia has thriving trade agreements with one of the world's only sovereign nations: China. The Chinese currency is actually owned by the people that hold it. It's not backed by debt and the Australians benefit from it.

I think you are confusing Keynesian policy with actual productive activity.

Now UN and NATO influence is putting American troops on Australian soil. You know why?

The banks don't like the economic freedom around there one freaking bit. It's not going to last for long. I am going to put my money on it.

The Eastern hemisphere's sovereignty is going to be challenged tooth-and-nail in the coming decades and most of it is going to be done through war and war never changes. It debases currency and destroys sovereignty. It will all be centralized into larger nations, fewer currencies and more control.


So $17/hr minimum wage is paid by China? Can you elaborate?

There is not much economic freedom in Australia. Its banking and industry are heavily regulated.

No, the Chinese don't get paid in debt. They get paid in actual currency. That's why there is no such thing as a jobless Chinese: there is actual wealth creation and not a hopeless circle of debt.

If you were to pay off all of Australia's debt, there would be no more Australian banknotes. Australian citizen's get paid in currency that is owned by Chinese and European shareholder's that can be taken away from the citizens at anytime.

You're right, there's not. Again, they are living off the Chinese: they own the country.  An Australian's productivity is only collateral much like a US citizen's.

20  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New Year's Resolution on: January 07, 2012, 03:20:26 AM
To act within my nature: That is my only duty.
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