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1061  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BTfuture.com Beta Launch on: September 30, 2011, 02:44:18 AM
Does anybody know how to buy shares?  Huh

I am not understanding why I can't buy anything.
1062  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly vs btc::log on: September 23, 2011, 01:55:46 PM
You know what? I don't really care about this attribution business anymore.

Rather focus on more interesting stuff like making cardboard gears and making bitcoinweekly more awesome.(Would like the magazine to be more active than this month)
1063  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly vs btc::log on: September 23, 2011, 01:43:43 PM
But you don't have any such sign or message, other than these threads, that I can see in a cursory look. In fact your uncopyright notice at the bottom specifically says the opposite, or maybe the language of the "do whatever the fuck you want public license" is a bit ambiguous for you? Your uncopyright notice says "do what the fuck you want", but your actions are saying "do what the fuck you want, but if I don't like it I reserve the right to retaliate." Those are not the same principles.
For the 1044th time, the purpose of these license is to declare the suspension all of copyright power I have. I don't know how to make that statement clearer to you.
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Seriously, update your footer to say what you really want out of your license, and you wouldn't be in this mess. Also, as I said, you saying "pirate the heck out of it" and then turning around and asserting a request for attribution after the fact is pretty offensive.

Do you really need to tell that to someone who is already planning to do that?
1064  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly vs btc::log on: September 22, 2011, 11:48:08 PM
"Requested" under a threat of naming+shaming is not voluntary, and in my humble opinion I still stand by the belief you picked the wrong license. At the very least, don't try and patronize pirates by saying "pirate it all you want" at the bottom of your pages if you don't mention that you request attribution when it's used.
Look, I am just publishing a list of people who do not attribute the source of the content. It's literally true facts of what's happening.

I ask you to attribute the content to my magazine. You said no. I write it down because that is what exactly happens. Is there a threat of lawsuit? Jailtime? Google censoring? Extortion? Takedown Notice? Perhaps, other bad or good things will happen to you, but that is not my fault. I only recorded information!

I had already told people that I am not interested in having copyright power, thus a CC-BY license is totally inappropriate for what I want to achieve. Thus, I will change the copyright notice slightly and mentioned the facts that I will write down the name of the people who refuse my request. It isn't done right now(and due to technical issue in deployment) because I didn't foreseen this situation. Once that happen, that way everyone knows of my new policy to write down the person who respond to my request with a no. If btc::log didn't do the attribution thing for all the bitcoinweekly content they posted, they will be noted for the first to do so and is instrumental in starting this policy of writing down people who did not attribute content to my magazine.

If you don't understand the nuance of legal/obligatory force and recording true information that may embarrass or not, it's your fault. If you still don't understand that a CC0 is exactly what I want at the end of this sentence, it's your fault.
1065  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly vs btc::log on: September 22, 2011, 06:01:43 PM
up on using it.

What it sounds to me like is that Kiba really wants a CC-BY license, not CC0 or public domain. Do not release your shit into the public domain if you want to come along later and insist on this or that, because public domain explicitly waives your right to insist on most of these things. Choose your license carefully, as in most cases public domain and CC licenses are irrevocable (I am not a copyright lawyer I just play one on the internet).

Of course he's within his rights to make a list of people who take his public domain writings and publish them without attribution, but it's a huge douche thing to do. Either it's public domain or it's not, and to reiterate it sounds like he really wanted CC-BY, not CC0.

No, I really wanted a CC0 or public domain. I really want attribution to be completely voluntary.

There is a big difference between "you must attribute the content or I talk to lawyers and sue you" and "pretty please attribute or I write down that you didn't fulfill my request for attribution".
1066  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly vs btc::log on: September 20, 2011, 10:38:56 PM
kiba change your license to at least ask for credit, btclog credit bitcoin weekly this fighting over a line of text is just silly

I am not going to be involved in the copyright system. I am a copyright abolitionist.

Yes, it is a simple line of text:

"Originally published by Bitcoin Weekly"

But they're arguing how it's completely optional and that what the license said..blahblahbblahblah. So I told them "either honor my request or it's Hall of No Attribution for you buddies".

1067  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly vs btc::log on: September 20, 2011, 06:01:37 PM

Isn't that the difference between CCO and any number of CC licenses that require attribution.  Why does Kiba feel like he is entitled to have it both ways.  The distributor has the least amount of rights and what it seems like he is saying is,  "I could care less about copyright for the original authors; I just care that everyone know I published it" No one cares who originally published "A Tale of Two Cities", we all know who the author is.  

If attribution is required it's easy enough to get, so why not ask for it.  You can't have it both ways Kiba.


In this case, I am asking you, without a threat of lawsuit or takedown notice....or face my Hall of No Attribution. Also, I will be modifying my footer and policy tonight to mention that if there is no proper attribution for both author or source, I will put them on the Hall of No Attribution with mentioned offenses. This reflect the results of the btclog incident that changed my mind.

The copyright notice waiver will remain, but it doesn't mean that you can trample upon my economic self-interest!
1068  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] BTfuture.com Beta Launch - Prediction Market on: September 19, 2011, 02:56:43 AM
The only problem I have with your site is not being able to make custom prediction.

For example, I want to make a prediction on whether or not the price of bitcoin will be ten dollars by the end of this month, the next security breach at mtgox, and so on.
1069  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly Ransom(1.7 BTC Target, 0.25045601 BTC raised) on: September 06, 2011, 10:34:59 PM
http://bitcoinweekly.com/articles/warfare-in-a-bitcoin-world

http://bitcoinweekly.com/articles/bitcoin-what-is-it

http://bitcoinweekly.com/articles/bitcoin-adoption-opportunity-teenagers
1070  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly Ransom(1.7 BTC Target, 0.25045601 BTC raised) on: September 06, 2011, 10:33:00 PM
Releasing some more content/stuff sounds like a good idea, let me help a bit and see what happens.

The ransom is officially ended with Magical tux making the second donation. Thanks everyone for donating.

We are now in the process of releasing the withheld content.
1071  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly Ransom(1.7 BTC Target, 0.25045601 BTC raised) on: September 06, 2011, 10:01:17 PM
1 dude donated .25045601 BTC!


Even if you donated 0.001 BTC, it's still appreciated.
1072  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin Weekly Ransom(1.7 BTC Target, 2.25045601 raised) on: September 06, 2011, 05:54:10 PM
http://bitcoinweekly.com/articles/warfare-in-a-bitcoin-world

http://bitcoinweekly.com/articles/bitcoin-what-is-it

http://bitcoinweekly.com/articles/bitcoin-adoption-opportunity-teenagers

We are looking to raise 1.7 BTC for the release of 3 articles from Bitcoin Weekly.

Donation address: 13oN4mavM3bV11CsC72PMZZuq3S3agKKkc

You can also check the balance: http://blockexplorer.com/address/13oN4mavM3bV11CsC72PMZZuq3S3agKKkc

Here is the list of content we are planning to release soon:

1. Bitcoin: What Is It? by Vitalik Buterin
2. Warfare in a Bitcoin Worldn by Vitalik Buterin
3. Bitcoin Adoption Opportunity: Teenagers by Vitalik Buterin

Bitcoin Weekly requires a certain amount of money to be raised via donations. Everyone can donate as much or as little as they like. Eventually, the donation balance will reach our fundraising target. At that point, we will release all ransomed contents

If Bitcoin Weekly creates new content during the period between the start of this ransom and the end of the fundraising, we will add them to the list of ransomed materials. We will also increase the ransom target by .10 BTC.

Term of Condition:
It will be checked via http://blockexplorer.com/address/13oN4mavM3bV11CsC72PMZZuq3S3agKKkc between 7:00 AM to 8:00 AM CST before I go to my day job.

Once 1.7 BTC fundraising target is released, I will try to release the content ASAP once I am informed.
1073  Economy / Economics / Re: The reason why the bitcoin clones aren't much better on: August 28, 2011, 02:33:18 AM
real wealth is tangible items. I suppose a dollar bill is tangible but its not really "useful" like a car, house, etc. 

Excuse me? I think most of our wealth sit on the internet and is intangible.

Dwarf Fortress, for example is one of the best fantasy simulation game ever created. It's all 0s and 1s.
1074  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: GLBSE for dummies ? on: August 19, 2011, 01:33:33 PM
GLBSE is an amazing idea, and looks well made from the website! However as far as I know its illegal to have anonymous investors.  So once again, great idea destroyed by (slightly) stupid laws.

(how can you really argue with the laws though, I mean otherwise money laundering would be a piece of cake to any terrorist or drug cartel in the world to anonymously invest in things)

The GLBSE doesn't follow the laws. Everything on GLBSE is based on reputation.
1075  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: August 16, 2011, 11:56:50 PM
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16th August 2011
Will next-gen smart money kill cash?
By Nigel Brown
http://www.humansinvent.com/#!/2130/will-next-gen-smart-money-kill-cash/



Kill cash? It will be the cash of tommorow!
1076  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly RANSOM (3.00666666/1.0 raised) on: August 15, 2011, 04:56:10 PM
Awesome.  Cheesy

People donated even more bitcoin even beyond the goalline. Thank you!
1077  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly RANSOM (.73333333/1.0 raised) on: August 15, 2011, 01:18:58 PM
http://bitcoinweekly.com/articles/alternative-distributed-currency-creation-and-distribution-models-and-implementation

http://bitcoinweekly.com/articles/social-democracy-enforced-in-currency
1078  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly RANSOM (.73333333/1.0 raised) on: August 15, 2011, 01:16:56 PM
We received 1.00666666 BTC. Thank you for your donation. Release of new content in progress.
1079  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Weekly RANSOM (.73333333/1.0 raised) on: August 15, 2011, 03:24:53 AM
I see that we are already quite close to releasing new content.
1080  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Brainstorming for Most Effective Way of Using 309 BTC. on: August 15, 2011, 03:20:50 AM
I am intrigued with the idea of buying Kradminer.com

However, I dislike maintenance projects and increased responsibility for myself. I also do not see much upside to buying kradminer.com for the community.
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