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1181  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin.org page -> someone with rights please fix on: July 20, 2011, 11:56:37 AM
The google link on the bitcoin.org homepage is/was my idea.


One would hope nobody will be successful in maliciously manipulating google rankings.
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In the future, I'd like most of the links on the bitcoin.org home page to be google searches, including the "download bitcoin" links (I think we'll see some great new bitcoin clients released over the next six months or so).

Again, the google index can be manipulated.

I am not sure what is the best solution to the problem will be.
1182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: With all due respect, official bitcoin client sucks on: July 20, 2011, 02:29:08 AM
Yeap, I'm learning and trying.  Angry Embarrassed

There are clients that other people are developing, hopefully it will force the developer of the mainline bitcoin client to quicken their pace.
1183  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A case AGAINST merging Namecoin and Bitcoin mining on: July 20, 2011, 02:27:56 AM
If you guys have any more objections to voice, please do so.

I am quite sure that they are probably misunderstanding.
1184  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin.org page -> someone with rights please fix on: July 20, 2011, 02:20:45 AM
We had implemented a "smite/like" button or something like that a few months back but it was quickly disabled for some reason.


Because nobody knows why they are getting downvoted.
1185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Atlas trying to sell r/Bitcoin sub reddit. on: July 20, 2011, 02:16:33 AM
This is why people don't take you seriously and reference your age.

Pretty much all teenagers make a bunch of bad decisions, I know I sure as hell did when I was your age.  I thought I was the shit then too and couldn't make any wrong choices.


In my opinion, I think you can find guys who think they are the shit at any age.

Atlas make social mistakes. Doesn't mean he think he's the shit. If he learn, he will be an alright person.

(Speaking as an aspie who don't always know how to respond correctly to a social situation)
1186  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A case AGAINST merging Namecoin and Bitcoin mining on: July 20, 2011, 01:29:14 AM
My vote is against merged mining. If a pool wants to offer a service to allow their users to mine NMC or BTC that is fine but anything where the two block chains are inter-weaved or inter-dependent or whatever-dependent word I can use is similar to pegging the Yuan to the Dollar.

I would rather namecoin grow on its own and become successful on its own without depending upon bitcoin aside from the basic principles built into the code that are alike.

The other thing I don't see is what problem(s) does merged mining solve that need to be solved for BOTH block chains? So far I don't see any problems with bitcoin's network or blockchain. I do see a need for the namecoin network to grow, but not at the reliance on bitcoin's resources, information, or anything for that matter.

Bitcoin's resources aren't being diverted. From what I understand, miners are just using the same resource against the two chains.

We are not talking about devoting half of the mining to resource to bitcoin or to namecoin.. We are talking about improving mining efficency.

Merge mining add value, rather than slicing the pie. Rather than earning bitcoins, you earn the same amount of bitcoin while also earning namecoin.

Think of your car getting an increase in fuel efficency on a single gallon of gas, rather than the gas of gallon being divided up between two cars.
1187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A case AGAINST merging Namecoin and Bitcoin mining on: July 20, 2011, 12:58:57 AM
I think merging them is a mistake.  Keeping them separate will allow for more flexibility with both.   Namecoin's block chain will become secure enough as it gets used for more and more important things. 

One of the FEW drawbacks of BitCoin is the size of the block chain.  It already interferes (though I know there are workarounds) with mobile applications.   Why would you want to make it bigger? 

Merging the two block chains does not add as much value as it takes away from both projects.



From what I understand, the two block chains is not being merged together. This is the consenus by Satoshi and others long ago in the BitDNS thread.
1188  Other / Meta / Re: Why is this forum considered terrible by our development overlords? on: July 20, 2011, 12:57:17 AM

When I was referring to bitcoin possibly not having a clear vision I meant something along the lines of its application to the real world (or maybe just the internet) problems/issues: i.e. what problems is it trying to solve and how will it help to solve them?

Ease of being transferred across border. That's a dream for money launders, but for also a dream for people who need to send money to their family.

Anyway, the nice thing about bitcoin for me is how fiction-less that it can be to pay my employees. I don't need to wait for days for money to transfer. I don't need to worry about geography. I don't need to worry about paypal.

Of course, it is also hard for me to automate bitcoin because I lack l33t sysadmin skills. Nevermind about learning to use bitcoind's API. I have to learn how to set it up.(Not easy, when your OS is Debian Lenny)

In anycase, I don't believe in silver bullets. There are lot of little cases where bitcoin proves superior. What we need to do is magnify bitcoin's strength. Creating sustainable businesses one by one help with that process.
1189  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Run a public domain site? Entertain or inform people? Let form an association on: July 20, 2011, 12:42:54 AM
If anybody who also run their business entirely under the public domain, I would be glad to help form an association that promote our shared business interest and the public domain.

We could have a central site that aggregates all the contents of our members, provide news and inquiry on the public domain, and be the forum of discussion for business owners to learn their trade and from others, as well host open source projects that help us run our business.

I hope bitcoinweekly isn't the only site that's running under the public domain policy.
1190  Other / Meta / Re: Why is this forum considered terrible by our development overlords? on: July 20, 2011, 12:32:16 AM
I would be more than happy if the "official" forum were cut to strictly development and technical discussion, tech support and such things that actually help people get up and running with Bitcoin. Hell, I'd be happy to make that change right now.

I may or may not remain with this forum if it remains as it is.

I would migrate to a forum that's more serious about learning how to run a business.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to start an association of bitcoin business or a business cooperative where we pool together common resources.

If anybody who is also a public domainer, I would also be gald to help form the Public Domain Businesses of Bitcoin or something better sounding.
1191  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Theymos now controls the r/Bitcoin subreddit. on: July 20, 2011, 12:18:17 AM
Never ever choose me as mod! Don't care about the work or the power.
1192  Other / Meta / Re: Why is this forum considered terrible by our development overlords? on: July 20, 2011, 12:17:01 AM

What is it? Because, everywhere you look (not just this forum), most consider bitcoin either as an investment or as speculative asset.

I consider bitcoin to be a world changing currency that's going to have a lot of positive impact and I wanted it to succeed so badly. So I am trying to increase my holding in bitcoin come high water or hell.

I am in it for a long haul. How about you?
1193  Other / Meta / Re: Why is this forum considered terrible by our development overlords? on: July 19, 2011, 11:39:09 PM

It's not just politics; it is the sheer number of useless posts, resulting in a high noise-to-signal ratio.


We need more Nefario type guys. Nefario built the GLBSE, and do cypherpunk things. He's cool and do interesting stuff.

What do we have? A bunch of anarchists in this forum who feel the need to beat their chest and show how loyal they are to anarchism. In term of economic activities, chest beating is the most useless form of promoting bitcoin, or perhaps negative. Plus, it contributes noise to the forum.

Libertarian and cypherpunk businesses like GLBSE will probably be the shadow economy that is behind the white bitcoin economy. I don't mind that. I don't mind delinking the forums, because it sucks anyway.

Perhaps, Bitcoin Weekly will never be the mainstream publication of the bitcoin world. I don't mind that. It's like being mises.org. Libertarianism is bigger than ever because of their boldness to ignore prevailing which amounts to "sharing is evil, mkkay?"

Politics and bickering sucks. Libertarians should know this more than anybody else. For a long time, we languish in forums not doing anything for our liberty. Instead, we are content to discuss who's the most libertarian or loyal to the libertarian tribe. Bitcoin provides that opportunities of doing something. Let take advantage of that and show that our tribe is not just a bunch of kooks, but a community of entrepreneurs that provide goods and services that people really wants in a manner in which people appreciated.

Let do badass things.

Kiba,

Your local friendly libertarian entrepreneur and senior bitcoiner.
1194  Other / Meta / Re: Why is this forum considered terrible by our development overlords? on: July 19, 2011, 10:21:26 PM
nobody can control the wealth, very little can be controlled.

Somebody can control the wealth, and that is individuals who can secure their money from thieves and bandits.
1195  Other / Meta / Re: Why is this forum considered terrible by our development overlords? on: July 19, 2011, 10:15:06 PM

Bitcoin is an ideology-neutral currency; we're not here to convert the world to libertarianism or crypto-anarchism.  We're here to make the first global, decentralized currency successful.

+1

I disagree. Technology is not neutral. Example: atomic bombs give nation-states huge power, not so much individuals. No longer is the political consequence the conquest of a nation, but the annihilation of the world.

Bitcoin will have economic and political consequences, for better or for worse. That being said, spreading bitcoin is in libertarians' interest. What they want is not societies that agree with their views, but freedom.
1196  Other / Meta / Re: "Forum" link on Bitcoin.org points to google. on: July 19, 2011, 10:04:13 PM
Spreading bitcoin will achieve libertarian goal anyway.

Not to mention the fact that we will probably convert most of the world population to deflationary apologists.
1197  Other / Meta / Re: How do you become a moderator? on: July 19, 2011, 06:25:54 PM

Generally speaking be it on IRC or forums, the unspoken rule is that if you ask for the position, you're not going to get it Wink


I said "we need more moderators!!!!1111", they decided to promote me to mod instead. At that time, I was ambivalent about it, not knowing the cost and benefit.
1198  Other / Meta / Re: How do you become a moderator? on: July 19, 2011, 06:19:31 PM
You don't want to be a mod, trust me.

When the admin required mods to reestablish trust after the mtgox hack....I just said "fuck it".

People use that report button and spam me all day with their (often legit) complaints. Plus, I don't get any recognition or benefit from it other than the potential corruption of my ethic.

It might be worthwhile to mod a small sector of the forum, but I am not going to mod the entire community.

Nowsday, I run a small paid publication called Bitcoin Weekly. There's a potential for payoff, I get to learn stuff that become relevant to my career and my career education assisting me back. Also, I get to be proud of regularly employing a few individuals within the bitcoin community and economy.
1199  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: MtGox and the Euro - is it resolved? on: July 19, 2011, 06:16:19 PM
A few more days, at best.

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Euro Transfers Temporarily Frozen

Adam posted this on Jul-19 20:13

It is with heavy hearts that we deliver some bad news. We just got off the phone with our newly assigned bank (SG) in France and it appears the branch we have assigned cannot authorize our account until they deliberate with their “Higher Ups”. This is due to the sheer amount of funds we expect to be processing, along with the fact that bitcoin is fringe and has ambiguity associated with it that banks don’t currently understand. We were fully expecting to announce to all that our European bank accounts are now up and ready to start processing funds, however we have been advised that we will not hear back from SG until Thursday July 21.

Euro transfers (both deposits and withdrawals) are effectively frozen, however we’re going to look at other means of enabling Euro transfers in the mean time. So please bear with us as we work to get this up and running as soon as possible.

Thank you for your continued patience, we hope to come back with some good news soon.

 - http://mtgox.zendesk.com/entries/20287558-euro-transfers-temporarily-frozen

This is some serious business we're talking about. It's pathetic that they're going to....turn down...opportunities.
1200  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin critics suffer from Stockholm syndrome on: July 19, 2011, 06:06:40 PM
Stockholm syndrome is a "paradoxical psychological phenomenon wherein hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors; sometimes to the point of defending them," according to Wikipedia. Bitcoin critics have fallen in love with the bankers who pillaging them and lash out at the solution to their problem.

Meh, bitcoin critics just don't like anything new or crazy.
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