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1261  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is This Bitcoin Weekly Comic Crap? on: July 16, 2011, 12:55:37 AM
Thanks for your feedbacks, guys.

I believe I got two improtant lessons or ideas to try out of this:

0. Avoid false laughter. That's the lesson I got before coming into this thread. Basically, don't aim for the obvious and avoid tired cilche like laughing at the expense of the enemy. Instead make comics that make people laugh even if they were the enemy.

1. This is a new lesson: Implement a rating system and a way to iterate comics. This may increase the cost of maintaining a cartoonist but it could lead to funny comics.

2. Lean on Bitcoin Weekly's strength. Bitcoin Weekly generated interesting technical and economic essays that explore the depth of the bitcoin world. That should also apply to our comics as well.
1262  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is This Bitcoin Weekly Comic Crap? on: July 16, 2011, 12:47:37 AM

Ok. Some people find the bitcoin mascot funny. Reddit likes it.

The Gavinator definitely didn't work well.
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Nearly:
http://www.bitcoinweekly.com/comics/bitcoin-rate
(Didn't quite work, but I feel it could have worked maybe with a different ending).

Perhaps, it would be better if the rate goes down.
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Funny:
http://www.bitcoinweekly.com/comics/bitsquirrel
(The only one that made me laugh a bit).

I wonder if it would works better without the speech bubble.
1263  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is This Bitcoin Weekly Comic Crap? on: July 16, 2011, 12:44:25 AM
While I won't be near as mean about it as Synaptic and others have been - you really do need to come up with storylines that don't just amount to giant pats on the back, or circle-jerking about the future uses of it. My only problem with that (and where the "constructive" part of my criticism ends) is that I honestly have no idea what you could make a comic about Bitcoin that doesn't involve either patting one's own back or circle-jerking.

I should note that bitsquirrel seem to be received well. I think it's a good comic. Also, Joey D's Bitcoin Mascot is also well received. But it's mostly more miss than hit.

Making funny comics is really hard.

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Maybe something more technical, explaining how the things work? I think it was your site that had the "eat this carrot" comic which was getting towards what I think would be useful. I guess it's tough to do - explain an aspect of Bitcoin in 6~12 frames, but honestly squirrels dropping bombs on windmills made of fiat currency isn't really helping anything (unless you're speculating on the number of times in a day people will say "what the fuck?") regardless of how awesome the frame with Gavin riding the Alpaca is for those of us in on the joke.

Yes, this seems to be a good pivot. It also works with Bitcoin Weekly's strength which is to be a non-sensationalist essay-driven site.

Even so, what I might implement for the funny comics is the ability to iterate and the ability for audience to give feedback on how funny it is. That way we can keep trying and see which one succeed.
1264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is This Bitcoin Weekly Comic Crap? on: July 16, 2011, 12:32:09 AM
As long as you enjoy doing them, keep'em coming, even if people think it's crap.

Appreciation is nice, but I would like to gather feedback and reasons why some of my comic fail.
1265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is This Bitcoin Weekly Comic Crap? on: July 16, 2011, 12:29:31 AM

Just as funny or more funny than those comics I see in the papers. I've yet to see anyone come up with anything more funny than yours about BTC.

That's nice you appreciate my comics. But that doesn't tell me anything unless Bitcoin Weekly comics are all equally funny to you.
1266  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is This Bitcoin Weekly Comic Crap? on: July 16, 2011, 12:28:30 AM
Needs some work.  I prefer the really witty/technical stuff, like xkcd.

But which one was funny, and which one is not?
1267  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is This Bitcoin Weekly Comic Crap? on: July 16, 2011, 12:23:07 AM
I don't get it, that comic was awesome! I like all of them!

Well, rank comics from least funny to most funny. Maybe that will tell me something.
1268  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is This Bitcoin Weekly Comic Crap? on: July 16, 2011, 12:21:14 AM

What would be constructive feedback?

Telling you to make something that isn't completely stupid, instead?

If you're around the age of 10 or suffer from some type of cognitive disability I sincerely apologize, but if you're anywhere near or past the generally accepted age of adulthood and of "sound mind" you need a reality check.

-50 points for trying to troll me and failing epically.

+100 points for promoting traffic to my site.

Good night.
1269  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is This Bitcoin Weekly Comic Crap? on: July 16, 2011, 12:13:53 AM
I just read all comics all the way back to "Bitcoin Mascots," and all of my negative opinion about bitcoin aside, I'm honestly embarrassed by proxy through what I've just read.

Just....no.

If you are not willing to offer constructive feedback, I am not interested in your comments.
1270  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is This Bitcoin Weekly Comic Crap? on: July 16, 2011, 12:11:03 AM
I don't mean to crap on your work, it certainly has technical merit in its style, but what do you take away from reading it other than a pat on your back delivered by your own hand? A bad story written in beautiful prose is still a bad story.

Not sure what you mean, but I thought it was terrible. Granted, I didn't write this. I also would like to mention that the Gavinator comic is also a fail.
1271  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is This Bitcoin Weekly Comic Crap? on: July 16, 2011, 12:08:59 AM
Don't quit whatever it is you do besides creating utter shite like I just wasted my eyesight on...

It's not very nice to shit on someone's genuine effort to improve his works, no matter how terrible it is.
1272  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Is This Bitcoin Weekly Comic Crap? on: July 16, 2011, 12:00:54 AM
http://www.bitcoinweekly.com/comics/fiat-kingdom

Also is a fail is this comic I written, http://www.bitcoinweekly.com/comics/the-gavinator

There are time when we succeed massively or fail massively. I believe this time we failed big time. I was told this comic is totally bad, and I agree with this assessment. (Don't you see? Our humor is mostly "crushing our hated enemy", the gubernment)

http://lesswrong.com/lw/m5/false_laughter/

So, I am gathering more feedbacks and comments.
1273  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: July 15, 2011, 11:37:16 PM
+1
I could not agree more with you.
this all comes back to the organizational structure of bitcoin:
No unified leadership

No overall commercial leader / general manager
no marketing leader
no pr / er leader
no legal advisor
a technical leader Gavin who is doing great, including good interviews

But the whole thing is weak. This comes also becuse of the decentralized nature of bitcoin.

what is needed is a company or non profit organization (ie foundation) that drives this project forward in a structured way


I consider decentralization as its greatest strength and asset.
1274  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I don't trust mybitcoin, but how come so many trust it? on: July 15, 2011, 12:43:06 PM
mybitcoin.com could be a lot better but I never lost any money in mybitcoin..

But I am only one person.
1275  Economy / Economics / Re: Ayn Rand quote on: July 15, 2011, 12:40:14 PM
However, copyright proves to limit what people can do with their own property and energy. For example, if an entity is granted a monopoly on creating a widget then I am barred from creating said widget with my own matter and energy. It does not matter if Entity A desires protection, my property rights should supercede it since its by it that I and other men can sustain. True property is life. It can be denied from us and it can deny us life while denying somebody exclusivity to an idea does not. It's even worse if I already have a widget made. Entity A essentially now has the irrational right to cease it from me despite it being entirely and rightfully generated by my own labor and person.

The idea of its form is intangible and not scarce. The idea is only a remix of other knowledge generated by man going all the way down to the techniques of feeding and watering oneself. To hold this sacred and to be exclusive to only those deemed virtuous by a supposed authority is inane.

Atlas, it's time to shut up and get busy with our business life instead of arguing and bickering and moralizing why is it wrong or right to have intellectual property.

Our success(or failure) in business will be far more sweet(or bitter) than the pointless debate we are seeing here today.

I am dropping out of this thread, now.
1276  Economy / Economics / Re: Ayn Rand quote on: July 15, 2011, 12:35:10 PM
TL;DR: Just because something works for you it doesn't mean it will work for everyone, and it proves precisely dick.

Reality is the final arbiter.

People said any number of things that our business model couldn't work. It's also common to say that business is an exception, an anomaly. It only works for certain type of business, and so on.

Of course, none of these people don't have the ball to experiment with their business model. They rely on horror and worst case scenario instead of empirical reality.

That's a fine way to think about it, except for making money.
1277  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin Patent Bitcoin Now! on: July 15, 2011, 01:02:43 AM
If somebody try to sue people using bitcoin, there will be a media circus.
1278  Economy / Economics / Re: Ayn Rand quote on: July 15, 2011, 12:34:13 AM
...though the computer you type on right now is itself a product only made possible by the incentives posed by legal protection you deem "completely" unnecessary. This is akin to the animal rights activist who takes antibiotics, and an infantile notion. While a good discussion can be had on whether copyright law in its present state is unduly overreaching, throwing the baby out with the bathwater is not even intellectually honest.

It is indeed completely unnecessary, as my magazine proved time and time again by publishing content under the public domain.

What kind of evidence you got to prove when everyone always use legal protection for their works? Bitcoin Weekly buckles that trend completely. So far we do not have any devastating economic consequence as a result our policy on copyright.

Bitcoin Weekly was inspired in part by Jason Rohrer, who is a famous indie game developer who published his games under the pubic domain. He made a nice living off his games. In addition, I am informed by two economists who made devastating arguments against the notion of copyright and patents, Michele Boldrin and David K. Levine, who wrote the book Against Intellectual Monopoly.

In any case, the fight for the future of copyright and patents will not be in the courtroom, or the court of public opinion, or in congress, but in the marketplace where the consumers call the shot.

Our wallet speaks louder than any arguments ever made for or against copyright. I have good reasons to believe that copyright is unnecessary to Bitcoin Weekly.
1279  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin for Merchants on: July 14, 2011, 11:52:31 PM
http://bitcoinweekly.com/articles/bitcoin-for-merchants-part-i

http://bitcoinweekly.com/articles/bitcoin-for-merchants-part-ii

My staff writer, Vitalik Buterin concluded that a really strong payment system is key to Bitcoin's success.

Discuss.
1280  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin Patent Bitcoin Now! on: July 14, 2011, 11:40:55 PM
Lawyers are expensive. Might not be worth the money.
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