I know. I mean it should work at least 2-3 years with 24/7 mode and with temp <70C. Overclocking + undervolting will kill a card faster if temp is in safe spot (<70C), than stock freq/volt with >80C?
Obviously not. Both current and temperature are key exacerbating factors of electromigration. Clockspeed afaik, is not. But its a false dilemma, because a higher clockspeed will result in higher temperature and require higher voltage, regardless of what your testing shows (hint: there are several temperature sensors in the GPU, you are measuring only one, quite possibly GpuIO which is the memory controller. Try checking the shader sensor). Temp1-3 are different sensors, no? I don't see any others with gpu-z.
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Are you sure that you have AMD APP SDK v2.4 installed? You need to remove APP SDK dlls, if you've installed v2.5 before, because they still in os, crappy uninstaller doesn't work correctly. And if you installing 2.4 later, 2.5 dlls are not replaced, so you still have 2.5 after. This explains your cpu bug.
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I don't think videocard can die if everything tuned properly, otherwise it can die even from playing games with high AA @ stock frequencies!
And its not like videocards that are not used for mining ever die Its really simple, any silicon chip thats used will eventually die. Its a given. The only question is how long it will take. It could be centuries, it could be days. But stressing these chips will reduce their lifespan, particularly when overvolting and overheating. If you are lucky, you may never notice, but it doesnt change the facts. I know. I mean it should work at least 2-3 years with 24/7 mode and with temp <70C. Overclocking + undervolting will kill a card faster if temp is in safe spot (<70C), than stock freq/volt with >80C?
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I've tried bitminter's 12 hours run yesterday and earned 0.228347831 BTC!!! Holy shit! At average I should get 0.09 BTC for 12h with my 221 mhash/s. Maybe it was a lucky day. But most of them are unconfirmed so far until full block will be confimed I suppose.
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I don't recommend you use Deepbit. However good/stable they are, they can't possibly make up for the 10% fee they charge the PPS-mode miners. Eligius is a SMPPS pool, therefore you will get very steady payouts - every single share you send will be paid for. While Deepbit pays you 0.00003597 BTC per share, current reward on Eligius is 0.00003997 BTC. How about you underclock your GPUs by 10%? No? Didn't think so. Then why stick with high fee pools?
I use Deepbit's proportional mode, lesser fee and higher profit over time than deepbit's/btcguild's PPS. I'm currently mining at Bitminter and have only 0.13% rejected shares. That should put your 1.63% in perspective. Using BitMinter, you have to get ready for some variance. There can be days when no block is found and you get nothing. That shouldn't matter, however, as over time expected revenues from both Eligius and BitMinter converge on the same value.
What about classic proportional mode nowadays on other pools, it isn't that good anymore because of pool hoppers? And gives lesser profit overall than PPLNS and SMPPS?
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To get back to your original question; running at high fan speeds is more likely to kill the fan prematurely. Running at low fan speeds (assuming that results in high temperatures) is more likely to cause premature failure of the GPU. Its impossible to put numbers on it, premature could mean 15 years instead of 150, it could mean 2 months instead of 20. But replacing a fan is fairly cheap and easy, replacing the GPU is less so.
I agree, but running @ 100% fan speed I'm getting only 2-3C lesser temp. Not very effective I would say and my room becomes a server room. Maybe add some decent external fan, like this one:
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Thanks for the answer. I'm using deepbit so far and have 1.63% rejected out of 13436 shares. Should be good? I'll check if I'll have better income with BitMinter and Eligius.
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I'm testing it almost a day already with 960/300/ 1.005v. Rock solid stability. Incredible how much it can be undervolted, even with quite high OCing! Funny thing that with 1.000v it doesn't work, but with 1.005 working without any issues. And temp is at 71C, comparing to 77 with default voltage. Thats just great.
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What's better for 24/7 mining?
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I'm also not sure what you mean. Why infamous? It has a bad reputation or something?
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Infamous Deepbit? What's up with Deepbit?
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Actually I did it in wrong way. I oced it in AMD overdrive trough ATI Tray Tools (stupid ATT overclocking tool cant up freq more than 750 mhz and lower than 500) and somehow overdrive conflicted with different frequency, even with 1.124v. I've found a workaround. Now I'm running 960/300/1.105v and its working! Alsogpu is a bit colder now, not that much tho, lesser on 1-1.5C. Wondering how far I can go with 960/300.
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I've tried 1.105 (1.125 is default) and it even doesn't work with 750(850 is stock)/300. GPU stops responding.
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wow, anything over 80 and I get very nervous. I start downclocking and downvolting to get any card below 80C
Why? From everything I have read, mid-80's is fine for GPU's...... I will have to lower the ambient temp in the rooms and see if I can get it down that way. Lesser temp - longer lifecycle. And >80 is already too much for 24/7. You can try to run them with >80C and see if they will die in next few months.
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Whats more optimal - higher fan speed and lesser gpu temp, or auto fan speed with higher (2-3C more - 77C) temp?
cooler room and more space between the cards? which cards? have you heared of undervolting? Radeon 5770 atm, soon 6870. GPU can be stable @ 960/300 with undervolting?
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Whats more optimal - higher fan speed and lesser gpu temp, or auto fan speed with higher (2-3C more - 77C) temp? Can fan fail earlier than gpu with higher speeds?
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Btw CGminer can be used as just temp control tool in addition to Phoenix?
Dont think so. But there are other reasons to consider it as your miner app, like failover pools. cgminer supports phatk2? I'm getting best results with it. Sorry for noob question, but what's failover pools?
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Why better don't improve kernel for phatk2? It's faster than 1st version and still faster than phatk_dia.
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а на чем надо собирать сейчас? Всем привет! Хочу влиться в ряды майнеров ) Думаю собрать машинку из 3х Radeon HD 6990. 1) вопрос где можно купить блок питания SILVERSTONE ST1500 1500W ?
Полнейшая глупость собирать что-то на 6990 да ещё и сейчас. Я бы собирал на 6950 и куче райзеров, с несколькими недорогими БП. Ферма это растраты, не надо собирать гейминг-ПЦ в качестве фермы и уж тем более не с сильверстоунами и 1500ваттными БП. Собирайте говнище старое, на старой материнке и селероне, ставьте туда видеокарты на железный каркас и пускай оно работает. У меня так собрано, работает уже с июня и ничего... Смысл в профите. А железо дешевеет. Старое говнище, т.е. старые процы не так ватты экономят (точнее вообще не экономят, а работают постоянно вхолостую, даже когда на них нет никакой нагрузки) как новые, даже самые дешевые. Cool'n'Quiet рулит.
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Yes, I made on myself. First it will(depending on the miner, in my case it's cgminer) request via RPC to stop the offending thread. Should it fail, it will kill the miner altogether. It will then bench if the temp is still going above the threshold, in which case it will shutdown the PC. It also detects FAN failure, and immediately shutdowns PC should it stop, or decrease below 700RPM. I've posted this a few times actually, and before I realized it, I was bragging Of course, it is for Windows only. Sounds great, where I can get it? cgminer has built-in temperature and fan control. I dont think it can shutdown the rig, but it will control fan speeds to maintain a desired temperature, decrease clocks automagically if temps exceed a given treshold and stop the GPU altogether if it exceeds another treshold.
Btw CGminer can be used as just temp control tool in addition to Phoenix?
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