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Other / Off-topic / Re: Already delays in BFL shipment plans?
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on: October 22, 2012, 03:49:41 AM
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Statement from Josh/BFL: We wanted to cover the bases with the Bitcoin Mag article, so we pushed the shipment date out.
With regards to an updated shipping schedule, we are waiting on some information with regards to the bulk shipment of our ASIC chips. Once we get a confirmed date on the bulk shipment, I will have a pretty solid idea of exactly when we will start shipping, but until I have a more exact date with regards to the chips, I can't give a better estimate. Once we have the chips in hand it will take a couple days to get them pushed through our pick and place house and then ready to be shipped out. Chances are, either I or someone else from BFL will be going in person to be sure each step is executed as quickly as possible and to handle any unexpected contingencies that might crop up.
At this point, though, I very seriously doubt we'll make the end of October. How far into November that is pushed I should know sometime soon (this week, I hope).
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Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER GPU FPGA overc monit fanspd RPC stratum linux/windows/osx/mip/r-pi 2.8.4
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on: October 22, 2012, 02:44:51 AM
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OK - so here the last lines before my cgminer crashed (v2.8.4 on Win7x64).
Note: I lost Internet connection for a few hours - maybe that caused the crash?
[2012-10-22 02:37:39] 64.0 C F: 55%(1984RPM) E: 940MHz M: 200Mhz V: 1.175V A: 99% P: 0%
[2012-10-22 02:37:41] [thread 0: 1174405120 hashes, 210719.1 khash/sec]
[2012-10-22 02:37:42] 64.0 C F: 55%(1984RPM) E: 940MHz M: 200Mhz V: 1.175V A: 99% P: 0%
[2012-10-22 02:37:44] [thread 1: 1174405120 hashes, 210681.4 khash/sec]
[2012-10-22 02:37:45] 64.0 C F: 55%(1983RPM) E: 940MHz M: 200Mhz V: 1.175V A: 99% P: 0%
[2012-10-22 02:37:46] Reusing stratum work
[2012-10-22 02:37:46] Generated stratum merkle 21fccc1ae2762046362be1c31c71a92c40ce2a82dd4ccf81e6c96f4c218980c1
[2012-10-22 02:37:46] Generated stratum header 000000021cc6ab9ee271679f7e235158cdc5dfa57fad35ffa0554412000000c50000000021fccc1 a
e2762046362be1c31c71a92c40ce2a82dd4ccf81e6c96f4c218980c15084950a1a0575ef0000000 0000000800000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000080020000
[2012-10-22 02:37:46] Work job_id 23349 nonce2 46000000 ntime 5084950a
[2012-10-22 02:37:46] Generated target 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000ffff00000000
[2012-10-22 02:37:46] Reusing stratum work
[2012-10-22 02:37:46] Generated stratum merkle 12962fdf3b3660e6e478991e90540812fd076649ad1040cde70d48d00e193d6b
[2012-10-22 02:37:46] Generated stratum header 000000021cc6ab9ee271679f7e235158cdc5dfa57fad35ffa0554412000000c50000000012962fd f
3b3660e6e478991e90540812fd076649ad1040cde70d48d00e193d6b5084950a1a0575ef0000000 0000000800000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000080020000
[2012-10-22 02:37:46] Work job_id 23349 nonce2 47000000 ntime 5084950a
[2012-10-22 02:37:46] Generated target 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000ffff00000000
[2012-10-22 02:37:46] [thread 0: 1207959552 hashes, 209158.4 khash/sec]
[2012-10-22 02:37:48] 64.0 C F: 55%(1983RPM) E: 940MHz M: 200Mhz V: 1.175V A: 99% P: 0%
[2012-10-22 04:38:48] Work stale due to expiry
C:\bitcoin\cgminer-2.8.4-win32>
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Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 50% hashing power = unknown... are u scared yet?
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on: October 21, 2012, 06:02:06 PM
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I just don't understand the point in selling those machines when they could easily hook thousands up themselves and keep the profit. It'd be like giving away a cash machine.
Simple! They give it away once it's no cash machine any more (when difficulty is sky high). That's after they have mined for a couple of month - in Feb/Mar 2013. Which means the next 3-4 month we get lots of lame excuses from BFL why they can't ship. |
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Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 50% hashing power = unknown... are u scared yet?
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on: October 21, 2012, 02:37:23 PM
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Is it possible to have an historical version of that graph?
Good point! I was also looking for this kind of information (nothing found so far) for a definitive proof. But I (manually) observed this increase over the last few weeks - going from 35% to 39% to 40% ... and not 43%. IMHO there is someone mining with ASICS. I assume it's BFL. There have been accusations before - and they denied it. But I'm pretty confident their ASICs are ready to go - and already started mining. So BFL will mine for 2-3 month (delaying shipments with some lame excuses from October to November, from November to December, etc.) making shitloads of money. And after that sell/ship their ASICs. |
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Other / Off-topic / Re: Already delays in BFL shipment plans?
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on: October 20, 2012, 12:35:58 PM
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Quote from Bitcoin Magazine (October 19th 2012): "Butterfly Labs promises to release more information in the coming weeks, and with the November/December ship date rapidly approaching, eager customers and those watching from the sidelines do not have very much longer to wait." (Source: http://bitcoinmagazine.net/butterfly-labs-releases-more-asic-photos/) 1) So now we've gone from shipping in the coming weeks to "promises to release more information in the coming weeks" ?!?! 2) "... and with the November/ December ship date rapidly approaching ..." December? Well that's new - at least for me. |
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Other / Off-topic / Why is Butterfly Labs so secretive?
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on: October 13, 2012, 01:10:37 PM
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E.g. in another thread someone asked for the structure size (110, 130, ... ? nm) of BLFs ASICs. Why is not even this information publicly available? I mean it's only two more weeks until the scheduled launch date. From, for example, Intel we have this information years in advance: Haswell will be 22nm, then Broadwell with 11nm, then Skymont with 10nm. Do its competitors (e.g. AMD) gain any benefit from this information? No! I mean it's like back in July 1969, two weeks before Apollo started heading for the moon. Imagine if NASA would have said: "No, we can't tell you how many astronauts we put in that spaceship ... (because with this information the Russians would be able to build their own rocket in just one weeks - and win the race to the moon)". Ridiculous. So please, BFL - give us something. And not just rendered pictures of a Jalapeno (aka black Apple TV device).   |
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Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER GPU FPGA overc monit fanspd RPC stratum linux/windows/osx/mip/r-pi 2.8.2
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on: October 11, 2012, 02:22:01 PM
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How do I connect to BTC Guild using cgminer and Stratum protocol? What I thought should work: cgminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.btcguild.com:9332 -u myWorker_01 -p secret -w 256 -v 2 -I 9But with this command line cgminer only shows cgminer version 2.8.2 - Started: [2012-10-11 16:15:35]
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(5s):773.1 (avg):815.5 Mh/s | Q:9 A:0 R:0 HW:0 E:0% U:0.0/m
TQ: 0 ST: 5 SS: 0 DW: 5 NB: 1 LW: 58 GF: 0 RF: 0 WU: 12.3
Connected to stratum.btcguild.com with stratum as user myWorker_01
Block: 000002995d7f5a59ea441833957a0f0d... Started: [16:15:39]
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[P]ool management [G]PU management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
GPU 0: 68.5C 2140RPM | 419.7/423.3Mh/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 U:0.00/m I: 9
GPU 1: 71.0C 2032RPM | 410.6/412.8Mh/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 U:0.00/m I: 9
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[2012-10-11 16:31:32] Started cgminer 2.8.2
[2012-10-11 16:31:33] Probing for an alive pool
[2012-10-11 16:32:52] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
[2012-10-11 16:40:27] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
[2012-10-11 16:41:00] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
[2012-10-11 16:41:58] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
Why do accepts/rejects stay at 0 ? What am I doing wrong? (My system: Win7x64, 2x6970) [EDIT] Just downloaded 2.8.1 - and this version works OK. |
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Butterfly Labs responsibility
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on: October 09, 2012, 06:42:43 AM
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As most of you know there are only 21 Million Bitcoin. Half of them are already found/mined.
Sooner or later transaction fees - and not newly found Bitcoins - become the incentive for miners to keep their equipment running.
Thing is: If nobody uses Bitcoins, there will be no transactions. Without transactions, there will be no transactions fees. Without transaction fees, all the shiny new ASICs become worthless pretty soon.
And there will never be a 2nd or 3rd generation of ASICs.
Therefore I see it as part of BFLs responsibility to do some lobby work and promote the idea of Bitcoin. They have the money and influence to actually make a difference.
I mean, it's the same like with everything in economics & politics: E.g. car manufacturers influence politicians to make sure that proper roads are built. The banking industry influences politicians to make laws that are in their interest. Fizzy drink companies start advertising campaign praising their sugar water as the drink for the young&dynamic ones. etc.
IMHO it is part of BFLs "responsibility" (and in their best interest) to make sure Bitcoins become widely adopted.
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"With great power there must also come - - great responsibility!" (Stan Lee / Uncle Ben)
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Suspicious network activity - someone already mining with ASICS?
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on: October 09, 2012, 06:31:54 AM
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- Ghash/s jumped from under 20.000 to almost 30.000 in the last few days -> price of Bitcoin tanked
- Ghash/s heading towards 20.000 again today -> price of Bitcoin went up again
So I would say: YES, there is *someone* mining with some sort of miracle hardware (not saying it's BFL *g*). And this *someone* might have overdone it a little - and now slowing it down a little so that it's not too obvious ...
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Influence of ASICS once all Bitcoins are found
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on: October 05, 2012, 09:23:59 PM
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This early adopter problem has been there since the first day of BTC, it greatly decrease the late comer's incentive, and hurt the popularity of BTC
The idea of BTC is not to mine & immediately change to Fiat Money at MtGox. The idea behind Bitcoin is a different one ... |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Influence of ASICS once all Bitcoins are found
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on: October 05, 2012, 03:18:03 PM
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As far as I understood the incentive of keeping the miners running - even after all 21 Million Bitcoins are found - are the transactions fees.
With the arrival of the new ASIC devices difficulty is going to skyrocket.
After the last Bitcoins is found I assume/hope many of those ASIC miners will still be running.
Question: Is this a good thing (this high difficulty) for Bitcoins in general? I mean, does it make the network more save? Or does it have no influence at all?
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Other / Off-topic / Re: [Announcement] Butterfly Labs
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on: October 01, 2012, 04:00:17 PM
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Quote from portal.butterflylabs.com: " ... NEW An as yet named 'Little Single' device which will hash at a rate of 30 GH/s and cost USD $649.00. ...".
When will this device be ready for (pre)order?
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Other / Off-topic / Already delays in BFL shipment plans?
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on: September 25, 2012, 09:36:54 AM
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Here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112543.0 BFL_Josh writes: "... that Bitcoin Talk community would nominate and accept as credible, verifiable individuals to be flown here to KC sometime around the end of October/Beginning of November time frame to see our facility, inspect the manufacturing equipment and test out the devices." My conclusion: BFL will not make the scheduled shipment plans. Why else would they offer to show their facility to dedicated people October/November? If they would ship on time, this step wouldn't be necessary - because the forums would be full with posts like "YES!!!!!!!!!! IT WORKS!!!!!!!!" etc. |
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Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL Requests Input
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on: September 25, 2012, 08:44:45 AM
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... credible, verifiable individuals to be flown here to KC sometime ...
Why not contact people from e.g. tomshardware.com, wired.com or computerbase.de? Or from c't (very reputable German computer magazine, always keen to test/experiment with new hardware gimmicks). In addition, it would be nice story for them - and promotion for the Bitcoin community. |
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