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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does bitcoin dump have any impact on gamblers ? on: July 04, 2022, 11:59:25 PM
And what if you withdraw money and there is a hike in the rate all of the sudden. But you are correct not to hold one thing for long.
And one important lesson which I have learnt is not to put all the egg in the same basket. Because when you lose you lose everything.

Then just withdraw it, why you should think twice? If you need the money, then regardless if the trend is uptrend or downtrend, just withdraw it.

If you plan to not cash out yet, then disregard any withdrawal attempt.

Simple as that. Don't think of it too much.
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reasons why people avoid KYC in gambling casino ? on: July 04, 2022, 11:59:16 PM
they only ask when the person withdraws a lot of money, but it is strange because there are casinos that in their TOS they require that when the person makes a deposit of X value, that person makes bets that reach the volume that corresponds to the deposit so that he is able to withdraw, in this case it makes no sense that the casino still asks for KYC at the time of withdrawal, but they still ask for KYC

But to trigger the KYC on casino withdrawals, it should be that large amount of money involved.

It won't be triggered if the amount involved is just $1,000, $2,000, or maybe even up to $10,000 withdrawals.

Just play on our usual and everything will be smooth not unless the KYC is really mandatory at the start. For that, check the site's Terms and Conditions.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is for big bag holders on: July 04, 2022, 11:57:22 PM
I think OP was furious because he didn't have a chance to enjoy his bankroll.  He got busted before he knows it.

He knows that idea of doing a martingale and yet with a small bankroll, he still insists to do it.

Then, later on, he will say that gambling is for big holders. Wrong thinking.

His mistake leads him to the wrong idea about gambling. Lesson learned for OP and I hope the same mistake won't happen again in the future.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can change of environment have an effect on gambling addiction. on: July 04, 2022, 11:55:07 PM
You will agree with me that society and the environment can have a great influence on the lifestyle of every individual, you often can find yourself doing, or being involved in that activity that almost everyone is involved with in that your locale as a result of influence. Now considering someone who is a gambling addict, is there any possibility of him/her becoming better if they are relocated to another environment or society where people around are not involved in gambling?

Can someone still develop the habit of gambling and become an addict even though no one around gambles?


No matter what the environment is if that person really eyes and targets gambling they will find a way to do it no matter what.

To truly stopped them, they need assistance from their families and friends. Make these people busy and help them to achieve to stop gambling.

But for me, if those addicted persons do not totally fall into the trap, a good discussion with them is already enough instead of this relocation idea.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: July 04, 2022, 11:52:40 PM
I disagree with that, this is a world champion fight so I don't think people will not be interested in betting on this fight. Maybe there's a shark that bet big money on Vargas and that's the reason why Magsayo is the underdog again, but it does not really matter though because Magsayo will win and we will enjoy that 1.97 odds payout.

Regardless, it's a big advantage to us that Magsayo's odds are increasing. We have no choice but to bet for Magsayo in the first place that's why I'm in favor of that treatment where our Magsayo is the underdog, although just a slight. I hope it will increase more up to @2. A champion given with that line of odds is great.
Only a few days remaining for the first title defense of Magsayo as a WBC Featherweight. We will now witness him again fighting for the country.

Let's get it on!
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 04, 2022, 11:49:33 PM
Really? I thought Tete was still fighting in bantamweight, well if that's the case then Casimero should pray that his requests will be granted and if he will be granted, I hope that he won't waste that opportunity and make sure that his weight will catch-up this time. I bet that will be his last chance in the bantamweight because if he can't still address his issue then I guess it's time for him to move up.

I'm sure WBO will grant Casimero's request. There's no reason why it shouldn't be granted.

But this time, Casimero needs to show some valid reasons that he is fit for the fight. Imagine he is having weight problems for 2 consecutive matches and that is not a good impression. He won't stand a chance against Naoya Inoue if he is struggling to catch up with the required weight.

All he can do is trash talk and that's where he wins lol if he don't do something about his weight problems.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: An alternative to gambling with money. on: July 03, 2022, 11:59:45 PM
That depends on your crave, if you're totally satisfied with gambling with play money then you're good at it. But it's true that if you're not satisfied and you want to gamble for real, it's just going to increase your desire to gamble more with real money.
There's no sense that you hit the jackpot but it's just play money and you want thrilling reality if that's a real money that's good to be cashed out.

That won't change everything. We are talking about a gambling addict and not a regular one. They won't satisfy with play money as they are used to playing on real money. That craving you are talking about can't be applied here as what I said, the gambler is already in addiction and trying to recover.

Playing at play money is not a good idea for these types of gamblers.

It won't help them to recover but rather they will just miss playing at real gambling.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reasons why people avoid KYC in gambling casino ? on: July 03, 2022, 11:56:43 PM
I'm one of those who don't really like KYC, my only reason is that I don't want my identity to be exposed by the security forces in my country because gambling here (my country) is illegal and players can be sentenced to prison. so far it can be counted on the fingers on any exchange or gambling site I only do KYC and of course, the reputation of the platform must be good.

That's a valid reason. Regardless, even if you don't undergo KYC, it's a big risk you are taking as gambling is illegal there.

If gambling is illegal there, there are ways that someone can track you doing gambling. Authorities are prepared with that.

Please be careful bro. Even using VPN won't save your ass in a country where gambling is illegal.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does bitcoin dump have any impact on gamblers ? on: July 03, 2022, 11:50:37 PM
Gamblers also suffer on market crash, there are some crypto gambling platforms that accept crypto but doesn't convert its value to $ value. While market price declines, we have to bet higher coin amounts for same payout. This is huge trouble especially when market goes down %60 and gamblers have to cover market losses before withdrawal on wining streak.

If they are playing with crypto, then the value of their bet is still 1 to 1. Gamblers are not that affected if the bitcoin price pumps or dumps.

They are dealing with crypto gambling therefore they already know that crypto is volatile and price can move up high or low.

The gamblers care for their gambling activity instead of this price volatility. They will do gambling regardless of the bitcoin price movement.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is for big bag holders on: July 03, 2022, 11:37:13 PM
If I had more funds I wouldn't have encountered this big loss. Martingale once again a failed strategy when you don't have big bag of money.

Here's my take on your story:

1. Funny that you blame martingale for your loss. Martingale doesn't increase your chance to win.

2. Who gave you the idea that if you had more funds, you wouldn't encounter a big loss? In reality, you will lose more.

3. Since you used a martingale, that will really result in killing your funds right away. An x2 bet is a painful bet on every loss and even whales can't afford it if the losing streak is now long. Just do the Math for 10 straight losses using the base amount you used on your screenshot.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Kazuto Ioka vs Donnie Nietes II on: July 02, 2022, 11:51:45 PM
One thing about Nietes is that when no one expected him to win but in the end, he emerged victorious lol.

Although Ioka were defeated last time, Nietes will be the underdog on their rematch because of age? I think there's something wrong with the bookies if that's the factor they are seeing. Everything is now depend on boxer's age rather than overall performance. I'm now more excited to see Nietes winning this fight, maybe much better if via TKO.

I want to see Nietes defeating Ioka infront of his Japanese countrymen. That's a big upset and that will be a great win for our PH representative.

12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: July 02, 2022, 11:42:27 PM
Spence are still asking for a bigger slice of the pie which I think is reasonable, but Crawford's camp might not like it.

Any source or link that Spence is asking for a big splice? Do you mean higher from the expected 60-40?

If that's 70-30 then I don't think this fight will happened. But are we just speculating here or Spence really demands a split like that?

I don't believe Spence will push for 70-30. He knows that Crawford camp will not agree with that.
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: July 02, 2022, 11:32:14 PM
Another big win by SMB, it's a 4th quarter dominant performance by the team and they beat the Northport by 16 points.

This is probably the best offensive game of JMF since he scored 21 points in this game, and has a very decent shooting percentage with 9-11.

Congrats SMB bettors, another easy win.

I thought the game will be close. They closed the halftime at all score 55 and Northport is doing great. Then late in the game, I don't know what happened to NP and the rest is history. It's been a while that JuneMar Fajardo making a rally at the end and becomes the challenge for the NorthPort.

If JMF was dominating the defense, the NP should just focus on perimeter shooting but that's not what happened as they become cold hands at the end. If only their hot shooting maintain, the result might be different.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: July 02, 2022, 11:25:11 PM
can he throw a ko punch on vargas?

He should and I'm looking forward to that. That KO win will give Magsayo an appreciation to the boxing community.

I just found it unfair that even he is winning, people like a KO win to get the respect he get. Since PH community used to see KO win from Pacquiao, our other boxers are expected to do the same way.

A good odds for a champion. Where can we see odds of an champion at over 1.8? Placing a bet for Magsayo is worth the risks.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: July 01, 2022, 11:59:18 PM
It will be an amazing and hard-to-defeat roster if in-case Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant will wear the same jersey as LeBron used to wear but yeah, that's just a hard thing to pull off. The nearest scenario that can happen is Durant on the Suns as today he requested a trade and preferred the Valley as a destination but I don't really think that the Suns will give up Booker that easily while Irving was on the table for Lakers trade.

I hope Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, and Lebron James will wear different jerseys this upcoming season. Talents should be spread at different teams as we are tired of seeing a stacked team. It's good if that stacked team came from drafting those players but if the team was being stacked because they were able to acquire and sign different superstars, that will just make the competition not that competitive.

Like last season, that was the competition we want to see as it's not easy to predict games last playoffs and Finals. The same kind of competition should happen again next season where everything is unpredictable and lower teams can upset Favorite teams.
16  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - 🦉 Drake, UFC, Watford Main Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: July 01, 2022, 04:23:31 AM
Does anyone have the same problem as me before?

The first time I encounter this problem. Before, login was smooth.

Email codes are supposedly 6-digits but I was asked that it should be 5-digits lol.



17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ? on: June 30, 2022, 11:59:17 PM
I doubt referees can play a part in match fixing. The reason is that even if the referee makes the wrong decision, in most games, it can be challenged by the third umpire or camera umpire.
Usually, the players are involved in match fixing. If you see the under performing without any reason, you can get the hint of match fixing.

No. It's the officiating was involved mostly and not the players. Who is able to control the game result and can manipulate it? The referees. They are playing a big role in the game results regardless of the player's performance. They can turn around the situation with their wrong officiating by doing intentional calls.

Players can't just involve in game-fixing. It's prone to detection and it needs the entire players to participate in the game-fixing and not just only a few. And challenging referees' decisions are just bound to happen later on and not in the actual game.

The referee's decision is always final and if found wrong by the league officials, they will just suspend that involved referee and everything is now fine again.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reasons why people avoid KYC in gambling casino ? on: June 30, 2022, 11:58:13 PM
It's been observed that gamblers prefer to play on casino which do not enforce KYC. Well, let's discuss what are the main reasons that they do not want to show their identity and gamble anonymously.

They don't trust the casino as the casino might misuse the kyc documents or the gamblers want to gamble without telling anyone that they are the gamblers,  gambling is illegal in their region or religion and they want to hide their identity or there could be any other solid reason?

It's not about these people don't trust casinos but KYC in crypto gambling is not really necessary. I don't see the importance of doing it. Gambling sites are working differently from crypto exchanges and they are not the same in all aspects. Why KYC should matter here?

It's also not about hiding the identity but it's not comfortable gambling when our identity is exposed.

That's why we gamble in crypto in the first place, right? Because of privacy matters that are not present in fiat gambling.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 30, 2022, 11:54:32 PM
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Manny has shown old age and stiffness of his body he is good for exhibition matches only and for the sake of money not for another belt, he cannot keep up with the younger generation anymore.
The return of Manny Pacquiao to fight in the boxing ring at an old age it is not possible to snatch the belt from a boxer younger than him, maybe he noticed some stats records during his fight with Ugas and opted for exhibition matches only, of course for money not about belts because sponsors have to pay more It's high to reach a contract deal with 2 superstars professional boxers, but regarding the rumors for the list of opponents Mayweather or Amir Khan is very interesting to watch, we will continue to monitor the official news and hopefully it will be released soon.

Contrary to others that looked excited about the exhibition match between Amir Khan and Manny Pacquiao, I do hope that won't happen. It's easy money for Amir Khan and he is not even close to Pacman's strength and fame. That's also an exhibition match and there will be no seriousness in that fight. What can we expect watching this fight? A staged one and scripted to entertain people.

If Pacquiao wants an exhibition make it to the point that it's against a boxer on the same level, Amir Khan is overrated and he should just rest at his home. Don't be like Mayweather that willing to go down in level for the sake of money.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and MLM Schemes on: June 30, 2022, 11:50:34 PM
On gambling, you are guaranteed to lose,

Not true in most cases. Maybe at casino games that need pure luck but gambling isn't just about luck.

If that's your status then stopped doing gambling as it's not for you. A guaranteed loss in gambling is the worst mindset.

Stay away from gambling if that's your mindset.

on MLM if you have a good organization and you are promoting a good and legit product you can make a profit the only way you can lose from MLM is if you are lazy to recruit people, there are still good MLM companies and they are license, a legit MLM should be focused on their products and services making money out of their profit plan is just a perk for actively promoting the product or services.

But in most cases, MLM is focused on referral programs and not on the product.

They are promoting aggressively the gains that users can get thru the referral programs instead of focusing on the benefits of the product.

That's why MLM is even worst than gambling.
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