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1  Economy / Economics / Re: Prioritizing strong foundation over quick gains on: April 24, 2024, 08:38:09 PM
Prioritising a strong foundation over quick gains in life is essential because it lays the groundwork for long term success & sustainability. Building a solid foundation ensures stability, resilience & the ability to withstand challenges or setbacks you could come across. Quick gains often lack stability & sustainability leading to potential instability & maybe failure in the future. By prioritising a strong foundation you can establish a solid base for growth, development & lasting achievements.
A strong foundation starts with researching and learning about the sector one intends to invest or engage in. Many people are not willing to learn because they think that doing their own research is waste of time. They just get information from the social media which in most cases turn out to be fake or deceptive. Without learning one will be open to scam and Ponzi scheme projects. Most people end up losing money because they lack the right foundation because they are in a haste to get rich quick. Anyone you hear that looses money investing in Bitcoin either lacks the right information or is impatient. Most of the people who have lost money in the crypto space invested in shitcoins and the reason is faulty foundation.

I see the greed involved in it and maybe I would say that they are losers who always want the maximum but instantly, however even though there is success they can achieve but yes it is clear in the end as you said that there is no balance in the long run long because they will not have the right management to manage all the money or profits they manage to get. And this is where the importance of having experience and knowledge is where we can only get all of this when we want to learn everything related to this field, where this experience and knowledge will be the foundation for balanced success in the long term, and also I think it is not uncommon for us to I see people who are easily tempted by profits in the early stages and usually they are someone who is motivated to get involved and get involved after seeing other people's success, but they don't see it from various angles, especially in terms of risks, which in the end is clear, it's not rare to see them. who are victims of fraud and even if, for example, you succeed in making a profit, I am sure you will not have the right management to maintain it when you achieve something instantly.
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Management on: April 24, 2024, 08:01:27 PM
Yes, that's right, which means that most gamblers always have difficulty ignoring the aspect of greed in themselves, they place excessive hopes on winning so that when they succeed in winning, what is usually on their minds is trying to continue the session even though they have actually succeeded in winning and they think that it is the right situation to take advantage of, where they think it is a good luck situation to increase the number of wins, even though it is clear that however we will never know how long luck will last, and in the end in some cases the session ends with regret because it turns out they again lost all the wins they had previously obtained and this is the bad impact of greed.

That's true , most gamblers don't know when to call it a day or just go with the little that have won than to lose it all. Most gamblers whenever they are winning by any chances, always tend to want more which is a signs of greed which most time may lead to alot of losses . Though he may not be easy to go against such emotion in such situation but still we just have to try and control it to avoid further losses by having a good emotional management. Smiley

One of the things that I believe about why they can experience something like that is that it is very likely that they are too excessive in responding or responding to the winnings that they managed to get so that excitement dominates and the level of awareness decreases which in the end makes them seem to ignore the possible risks that exist in gambling. where it is clear that it can never be completely avoided, this is a situation where they will not even hesitate to take the decision to continue the session with the intention and aim of increasing the number of wins where basically no one knows whether they will win again or vice versa. based on greed.

Dissatisfaction with the amount of winnings they managed to get previously makes them think about continuing their gambling sessions, and maybe I would say that usually they are typical gamblers who don't really understand the possibility of risks that can never be completely avoided, they don't know the concept of gambling. about winning and losing, where whatever the name of winning is always nothing more than just a "chance", so it's only natural that for example it turns out that in the second try they don't succeed and instead lose everything, and this is why we are always advised to be smart gamblers by have the ability to cash out at the right time, eliminate curiosity and dissatisfaction if you want to enjoy the results of the winnings. Wink
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Another health benefit of online gambling on: April 24, 2024, 07:34:53 PM
In my personal opinion, the benefit of online gambling for our health is that we can learn to hone our brains and skills so that they develop further by being shown or exposed to various kinds of online gambling, of course we will try to carry it out little by little so that we will gain knowledge by ourselves. and by gambling online for our health, we just sit quietly or relax on the bed playing online gambling of our choice and we don't directly face or meet other gamblers whose health is still in doubt.

You're right, and it was strange for me to read that this guy, who had a lung disease, did not decide to take care of himself and switch completely to an online casino. I understand that this is a matter of everyone's taste, and physical casinos have their own charm.
For some, going there is a whole holiday: flashing lights, polite staff - it attracts to physical casinos and you want to come and play.
But online casinos have great advantages: to sit comfortably with a cup of coffee in an armchair and play gambling.
Yes, it's possible that when the man was suffering from his illness, he definitely felt bored and fed up, so he took it out by playing online gambling as a way to entertain himself so he wouldn't think too much about the illness he was suffering from. However, this also needs to be taken into account because in any case the man must get enough rest so that his illness can get better soon. After all, we as gamblers also cannot force other people's will, let him be the one who feels it because he is good and bad, he is the one who takes it upon himself. Let's just take the positive side, maybe by playing online gambling someone will feel entertained by themselves because access is easy, can be played individually and there are no restrictions in any way, but we also need to remember that we must always be careful and maintain good control.

Yes, that could be, meaning that each person always has a different reason as to why they come and get involved in gambling, where maybe desperation can also be one of the drivers for someone to get involved in gambling like you said about the man in the story above. because he felt bored and fed up due to the illness he was suffering from, which in the end took his despair out on gambling in order to relieve his boredom and stress by always spending his time in the room without activity, and of course in this case he had to be really careful. in involvement in gambling because yes I understand that gambling can be entertaining and fun but however it cannot be denied that gambling can also trigger stress and depression if done in the wrong way or too aggressively.

So yes, of course I think we already understand this, that although gambling can be quite fun, on the other hand, we also have to think about the negative impacts, especially if you are sick, where your health could get worse if you experience some of the impacts it causes. by gambling, so in my opinion using gambling as a medium to entertain and relieve boredom when you are sick is too risky, I think there are many other things you can do such as playing regular games or watching Netflix.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Making decisions while betting on: April 23, 2024, 08:00:17 PM
First of all, I am saying that gambling is for entertainment. Those who take gambling as entertainment can make good decisions in gambling and those who use gambling as a means of earning money cannot control themselves in gambling.

Once a gambler has a misconception from the first place then he has completely lost the idea about gambling and how he is been expected to go about it, you cannot compare someone who is coming to gamble only for the sake of having fun to someone who is desperately in need of money and thinks he could actually earn from gambling, they both have different ideology and will have have same expectations with gambling.

That's right, basically everything depends on how they understand from the start about gambling, if for example from the start they see and respond to gambling as a place to earn income then obviously no matter how hard you tell them and advise them to gamble just for entertainment or fun then they won't. would ever want to hear advice like that, in the end they would stick to their own beliefs from the start. And on the other hand, basically they will definitely be able to carry out several actions that are recommended, such as gambling just for fun and also by implementing many restrictions on their gambling activities if from the start they have a correct and precise understanding of gambling, such as understanding that gambling is nothing more than a probability activity that only provides "possibility" and not "certainty", and this is also the reason why gamblers who have entered the addiction phase are difficult to cure.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Management on: April 23, 2024, 07:10:55 PM
For me, when it comes to distributing funds, I prefer to set aside some so I can still play, while I just withdraw the winnings straight away.

This is what many should do, in fact the best advice that can be given to any player, novice, expert, is to take these things into account, because a player Obviously has to do everything possible to be able to have fun and win, no matter what. Sometimes when you play and win a lot of money, many players leave their money in the casino, as if they wanted to see it there, but that is a Double-edged sword


This is indeed a problem for most gamblers. they are unable to leave the game even though they have won. because the gambler who wins and can have fun with his gambling winnings is by getting out there and taking away the winnings, no matter how small.

there are many more and that includes me too. When the balance has increased, even if it's a little, I still leave it there and then withdraw when it's enough. This is the reason why the balance instead of increasing, actually runs out because when you play and lose, you think you can still continue with the existing balance. Therefore, I actually wrote this to advise myself not to fall into something like that.

Yes, that's right, which means that most gamblers always have difficulty ignoring the aspect of greed in themselves, they place excessive hopes on winning so that when they succeed in winning, what is usually on their minds is trying to continue the session even though they have actually succeeded in winning and they think that it is the right situation to take advantage of, where they think it is a good luck situation to increase the number of wins, even though it is clear that however we will never know how long luck will last, and in the end in some cases the session ends with regret because it turns out they again lost all the wins they had previously obtained and this is the bad impact of greed.

But it is clear that these actions will only be carried out by those gamblers who come with the intention of making a profit whose gambling involvement is not based on a proper understanding regarding gambling, because I am sure that if they are responsible gamblers in the sense that they have the correct understanding and If they know about the risks involved in gambling, they will definitely prefer to cash out rather than continue playing. On the other hand, I like your confession here, it's no problem to always be open, friend, because if you are open, maybe there will be some people here who will provide a solution that suits what you need and from me the point is that you have to be really aware that Gambling is risky and no matter if you are winning, the possibility of losing is still a certainty, therefore it is better to take advantage of the time to cash out as soon as possible before it is too late and you regret it.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Another health benefit of online gambling on: April 23, 2024, 06:52:32 PM
I think there are no other health benefits in gambling apart from being able to make us feel happy by gambling when we are in a boring situation in some free time, gambling when you are feeling stressed can indeed make you feel happy from some of the sensations you get like when you betting on types of online betting, such as slots, where there is music that decorates the course of the game along with several symbols that look funny or interesting, but what we have to remember is that the health benefits can only be obtained when you gamble without placing high hopes. overdoing it on winning, because it is clear that intentions and goals can really influence your sensation of the results at the end of the session, which means that you really have to be a typical responsible gambler who has the ability to accept the fact of losing, because what is certain is that if you are a responsible gambler then I think it is unlikely for you to risk an amount that you basically cannot afford to be responsible for because usually a typical gambler like this will prioritize pleasure rather than pursuing victory which usually makes you experience regret at the end of the session, the point is that gambling can be a place stress triggers and absolutely no health benefits whatsoever if you treat gambling the wrong way.
7  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Saya ingin tahu teknik trading anda on: April 22, 2024, 01:34:10 PM
Setiap trader memiliki caranya masing2 dalam mencari keuntungan dan ya itu benar gan kita berharap para profesional yang ada disini bisa sedikit membagikan ilmunya karena itu pasti akan sangat bermanfaat untuk kita khususnya para pemula.
Disamping memiliki cara masing-masing, tiap trader juga mempunyai trik dan rahasia yang tidak bisa diungkap ke publik, karena bisa jadi rahasi tersebutlah yang membuat mereka untung berkali-kali lipat, jadi jika nanti rahasia tersebut diungkap ke publik belum tentu ramuan tersebut akan menjadi profit lagi jika banyak yang pakai. Karena sistem trading kan sudah pasti ada untung dan rugi, jadi kalau semua pada untung, terus siapa yang rugi dong?, gitu aja pointnya, jadi jangan harap kalau ada trader yang membagikan rahasia ramuan trading mereka ke publik, paling kalau sinyal naik turun coin yang akan mereka share.

Nah itu benar, seperti yang agan katakan bahwa setiap trader memiliki cara atau trik rahasia masing - masing dalam hal mengubah keputusan menjadi keuntungan dan mungkin karena inilah sebagian trader berhasil mencapai kesuksesan dalam dunia tradingnya dengan berhasil mencapai situasi profit konsisten dalam aktivitas tradingnya dengan keuntungan yang cukup signifikan dan tidak lain bahwa trik rahasia tersebut mereka dapatkan dari hasil kerja keras mereka selama fase pembelajaran. Disisi lain dalam trading tidak semua strategi yang anda dapatkan dari orang lain itu akan bekerja dengan baik untuk anda atau maksudnya mungkin anda pernah mendengar atau bahkan mengalami bahwa strategi yang anda dapatkan dari orang lain itu malah membuat anda mengalami kerugian sementara ketika orang lain yang menggunakannya mereka berhasil meraih keuntungan, artinya bukan berarti tidak mungkin bagi para trader profesional untuk membagikan ilmunya dalam bentuk apapun, sederhananya mereka bisa saja memberikan sedikit ilmunya atau strateginya tetapi tidak secara menyeluruh atau maksudnya mereka bisa saja memberikan sesuatu tetapi tidak dengan kunci rahasianya karena setiap strategi biasanya memiliki kelemahan dan kelebihan dan mungkin itu yang bisa saja mereka rahasiakan.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do some people hide to gamble on: April 22, 2024, 01:12:38 PM
Everyone always has their own reasons why they prefer to keep their involvement in gambling activities a secret, but what is certain in my opinion is that it is likely that they do not want to get a lot of criticism from the people around them due to their involvement in gambling because as we know that usually the general public as a whole holds a negative viewpoint on gambling because of the significant adverse effects that gambling can have when a gambler has entered the addiction phase.

Another thing is that if they are in a country that prohibits gambling, which obviously the country will certainly punish people who are involved in gambling, but certainly in my opinion, one of the most common reasons why they keep their gambling a secret is because they don't want to be labeled as having a bad personality by the people around them.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Donít play gambling with drugs or in half sleep on: April 22, 2024, 12:52:53 PM
That's right and one of the things that is worrying is that there is a big possibility for that person to take it
decisions that are not based on any rational considerations and clearly something that is done based on unconsciousness will usually end up with something that is not desired and I think this is a really very likely possibility to happen when someone gambles while consuming alcohol or drugs.

And on the other hand, I am sure that when you gamble while under the influence of drugs or alcohol which can take away your consciousness then I am sure that you will gamble impulsively and will not put any limits on the time involved or the amount of budget in the sense that there is a possibility that you will lose more money than you can afford to lose, there are no limits that you will apply and most likely only regret will be felt when you regain consciousness, therefore avoid everything that can eliminate or disturb your consciousness when you want to Gambling because of this idea will only lead you to many regrets.
Gambling is basically believed to be a game that's majorly decided by how lucky a gambler can be and not necessarily how strategic he is with his gambling decisions but that doesn't still change the fact that winning in gambling is more likely to happen when a gambler is very conscious and strategic with his decisions.
I've been able to experience a gambler who was unconscious because of the the hard drugs he took before entering a gambling shop and still went on to gamble with his unconsciousness but was able to win more than any other person in the gambling shop. The incident made many other gamblers in the gambling shop to change their style of gambling and would always get themselves unconscious with hard drugs before entering the same gambling shop with the expectation of getting the same result the first guy got the day he came to gamble intoxicated. But to the surprise of many, none of the people that took the decision of getting unconscious after the first successful guy was able to win. The result of the experiment helped to teach everyone in that neighborhood that it's always better to gamble when one is absolutely conscious of his actions

Yes I understand what you are saying here which is that the conclusion you are saying is that it doesn't matter if we are under the influence of drugs or other things that can remove consciousness but if for example we are in a lucky situation then the victory will also definitely come by itself and yes I agree with this, but maybe we should go further which is what I mean is that we should pay attention and prioritize preventive measures rather than just thinking about winning. Simply put you can win anytime when you're lucky but if you're gambling under the influence of mind-altering drugs then obviously I think it's possible for you to lose more and that's because chances are you won't know when to stop and you'll probably continue gambling even after you've lost and that's because of mind-altering drugs.

I'm not saying that you won't lose because losing is always a part of gambling but maybe having some formulas to prevent losing too significantly is a better mindset and approach and you've said the right thing above that it's better to gamble when we're sober.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you are not to gamble. on: April 21, 2024, 05:41:22 PM
You can add these two:

When you win little, do not gamble on that day again. But some gamblers will feel like they should continue to gamble and they will lose at the end of the day.

When you are addicted. Quit gambling for a long time.

You said it well. But here's the thing: A person who is addicted to gambling cannot stop gambling. This is the whole problem of addiction. If a person is able to stop gambling, then it will no longer be an addiction. It's like telling an alcoholic who has a big problem with it, stop drinking if you feel like you're addicted to it.

This means that it is easier said than done and I agree with you because you have said something that is in line with the fact that addiction is a phase where it will be very difficult for someone to stop and maybe you have heard that people who are addicted are difficult to give advice to because usually they will not listen to anything you suggest which leads to the recommended action such as implementing some limits, all they want is to continue gambling and if it was that easy to stop gambling when they are already addicted then logically there would be no gamblers who would experience many impacts bad from gambling like falling poor? Of course.

But in fact, as we see now, the number of gamblers who experience many bad effects is actually increasing and that means it is not that easy to stop gambling when someone has entered the addiction phase because addiction is a situation where someone already has a very high interest in the activity. This is for a reason, such as wanting to get a big win to restore the situation.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Donít play gambling with drugs or in half sleep on: April 21, 2024, 04:20:14 PM
That's right and one of the things that is worrying is that there is a big possibility for that person to take it
decisions that are not based on any rational considerations and clearly something that is done based on unconsciousness will usually end up with something that is not desired and I think this is a really very likely possibility to happen when someone gambles while consuming alcohol or drugs.

And on the other hand, I am sure that when you gamble while under the influence of drugs or alcohol which can take away your consciousness then I am sure that you will gamble impulsively and will not put any limits on the time involved or the amount of budget in the sense that there is a possibility that you will lose more money than you can afford to lose, there are no limits that you will apply and most likely only regret will be felt when you regain consciousness, therefore avoid everything that can eliminate or disturb your consciousness when you want to Gambling because of this idea will only lead you to many regrets.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Focus on how much you may lose and not only the potential win. on: April 21, 2024, 03:30:45 PM
I think focusing more on the possibility of losing can only be done and will only exist in the mindset of someone who really comes and is involved in gambling based on correct understanding, because of course when you understand what gambling actually is then I am sure you will focus more on risk management rather than pursuing victory where they know that victory is nothing more than an opportunity and not a certainty.

On the other hand, I understand that gambling has a chance of winning, but what we have to remember is that it is nothing more than just an "opportunity" which means "possibility" without being based on any certainty or guarantee, so it is normal for example if you often feel disappointed due to the results at the end of the session. not according to what you expected but that is normal because after all gambling is always about risk-taking activities. This means that losing is natural and winning is luck, while luck will not always come according to what you want, but yes, as I said above, the point is that focusing on the possibility of losing can only be done by gamblers who come with proper understanding because of course they already understand how the bad effects of gambling can destroy their lives.
13  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Anxiety in trading (heart disease) on: April 20, 2024, 02:38:58 PM
Trading is like gambling, although it's more organized because a trader has to learn trading skills, unlike casinos and bets that're more of guess works, nevertheless, despite the knowledge of fundamental and technical analysis, they can still lose. So trading is work that you enter and you don't know the outcome, whether you're going to profit or lose your hard earned money. I believe that this takes out a lot from traders anything they want to enter the market, anxiety and worries can develop into high BP which can lead to other more serious heart related illnesses. Trading is hard and traders should use money that they can afford to loose, also they need another source of income.
It is true that not everyone can make a profit from trading even though they have good knowledge in trading. There are many things that we have to understand in order to make a profit in trading, such as managing emotions when trading because if someone cannot control their emotions, of course it will be very dangerous. it is difficult for them to be able to analyze the market well and this will be very influential in making decisions on the trading that we do. To be able to trade, of course we have to have another source of income so that when the trading we do cannot produce a profit, we can still have other sources that can meet our needs.

I think that if for example they have qualified knowledge and skills related to the world of trading then in my opinion they will definitely be able to make a profit even though the amount may not be too large, I understand that the market will not always move according to our predictions but certainly there will always be moments for us to enter the market that is really in accordance with the strategy that we have that can give us some profit. What is certain is that everyone can make profits especially those who have the knowledge and skills but it is a fact that not all traders can never avoid the possibility of losing completely.

In most cases it is true that emotions are always the main trigger for someone to experience losses which can even be very significant if they do not have or do not apply good self-control, because when you do not have any management and planning to minimize excessive emotions then obviously in the end you will most likely make decisions based on emotions which are clear that decisions based on emotions usually end up with much worse results, and this is why a trader is required to have a lot of self-preparation such as patience to minimize emotions before finally engaging in trading. Another thing is that I agree with your suggestion that we must have a main income when we are involved in trading where the main income will be able to support our needs especially when we experience losses in trading.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stopping the curse of losing streak? on: April 20, 2024, 02:17:30 PM

Knowing your money may vanish? Smart, open-eyed play. Setting a win aim and leaving? Man, harder said than done. Your strategy is promising. The actual battleground is your thoughts. Your disciplineóhow strong? Can you leave with $1000 burning a hole?" Your enemy is temptation to double down and chase that next rush.

Understanding your circuitry trumps the odds. And your plan? If those constraints hold, I'll support it. Enjoying gambling within your means is fine. It's simple in theory but terrible in practice. Keep your plan and headspace, and you may win.

It's easier to be said than done, you already know what's your enemy while doing gambling so you should also know what will you do. when you are tempted, just always think about your initial plan and stick to it, one of the ways to not lose to temptation is to have strong self discipline and do not listen to your other thoughts because it will lead you to danger.

Yes the advice has always been about having strong discipline and focusing on the best plan you can come up with, but I think at the end of the day as you say "it's easier said than done", and you have also said that gambling can be very tempting which I think is very likely to happen or I mean very likely that you will break the rules regarding the plan you have previously made.

On the other hand I understand that the many temptations in gambling always lead to careless decision making and even responsible gamblers have experienced this, and although discipline is indeed the best thing that gamblers should have, I think it is not enough and maybe I will suggest something that can strengthen you in terms of avoiding some out of control actions due to the many temptations in gambling and that is "assertiveness", So the bottom line is that having a strong discipline along with a strict adherence to the rules and awareness is a good combination to minimize things like falling for something that looks tempting.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Focus on how much you may lose and not only the potential win. on: April 20, 2024, 01:01:12 PM
Agree to that, however gambling is always about a game of probability or what I mean is a game of "possibility" which is a fact that winning is nothing more than a chance and losing is a certain thing and I think we should all understand that.
In this case, it is only natural that, for example, wins come occasionally and can never be predicted because wins will only come by chance when you are really lucky.

Gambling is full of uncertainty, which means this is the reason why gambling should not and cannot be used as a place to make money because it is an impossible idea and we often see that gamblers who come with the intention of making money end up suffering a lot of loss of money. Therefore, it is clear that it is better for us to focus on the possibility of losing rather than chasing something that has absolutely no certainty or guarantee, such as winning, and the point is that the best approach is to prioritize risk management because this is how we will avoid bad possibilities such as problems that arise. when you have fallen into addiction.
16  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What people some people don't know about trading on: April 19, 2024, 04:21:04 PM
So, how can you earn 50-1000k like them if you didn't put in the work?
Gambling - LOL.
You know - some people just gamble under the pretext of trading, it's there and even they fail to realize it.

Look at how many newcomers are hoping to get rich overnight on meme coins or bitcoin or so on. They just want to make money without doing any analysis - that is the reality among beginners which is ultimately called gambling. They don't realize that they are just hoping for luck - but they recognize themselves as traders.

Well that's right, I think that is really the case especially experienced by most beginners who just came and got involved in trading where I think there are very many beginners who come with the intention of becoming rich people in instant time, all of that in their minds due to seeing other people who managed to achieve profits in very large amounts that could make them change their lives to become financially established and of course who doesn't want to reach that point.

Until finally the beginners are motivated and feel compelled to get involved in the world of trading, they only think and only focus on the profit opportunities without knowing how difficult it is to go through process after process of difficulties that exist in the world of trading and without further ado they immediately deposit and trade at the beginning of their involvement without knowing that actually trading cannot be done that easily, there are so many things that must be prepared thoroughly before finally being able to really plunge into real trading, which in the end yes of course as you say that unconsciously his trading goes like gambling where they get profits only when luck comes and is not based on any analysis and skills, and I am sure that most traders who ultimately fail they are typical traders like this, and simply put is how can you make profits like others while you do not learn anything that will be used as a fishing rod for profit. Cheesy
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you are not to gamble. on: April 19, 2024, 03:48:47 PM

Indeed, this is easy to say but difficult to implement, just like the self-control that must be mastered when gambling. Many people have ruined their lives financially, health or even their relationships because they can't control themselves or can't gamble responsibly, they only think about winning, even though the gambling they do ends in defeat, they don't care what they think about winning. and just win. It is very unfortunate for those who gamble but cannot be responsible for what they do.
Someone who can be responsible for their actions or can control themselves when gambling is a rare thing, because the majority of people who gamble cannot do that. They often use large amounts of money, even more than they can afford, because it is not surprising that there are cases of people borrowing money to gamble, or having their lives chased by debt.
Those who continue to gamble uncontrollably will of course create many problems in their lives and it is very difficult for them to get rid of this habit if they themselves do not reduce their gambling activities and look for other activities that can reduce their desire to gamble.
It is indeed very difficult for us to find someone who can gamble responsibly so that they don't gamble by spending a lot of money which makes their lives have financial problems, if they can gamble responsibly of course they won't become addicted and spend a lot of their money on gambling.

Of course because in any case anything that is done in excess is a bad action that usually leads to disappointing or even bad results, and especially if you apply such excessive actions to gambling which is a probability activity or an activity that has absolutely no certainty whatsoever for the matter of results at the end of the session. Gambling is always about winning and losing which is a much smaller percentage of wins than losses which means that when you treat gambling in an excessive manner then it is certain that the number of losses is much more than the wins which will only happen occasionally and by chance.

As you said that obviously an excessive approach to gambling will only cause a lot of problems especially in terms of finances. On the other hand, I think that the population of responsible gamblers or those who have a correct understanding of gambling is very small, because most of them come because they see the chances of winning in the hope of multiplying the money they bring which makes them ignore other aspects of gambling such as the possibility of risk where losing can never be avoided and will actually happen more often, while responsible gamblers are those who gamble based on a correct and proper understanding which will make them limit their gambling activities because they know that there is a possibility of losing which is potentially greater than winning.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: April 19, 2024, 03:30:48 PM

Of course, and sometimes we don't realize that it turns out that the child can already do something that we never expected before or for example in terms of speech, sometimes we don't know about when they learned it and how they learned it and all of that they did on their own without our knowledge or especially the parents and I also saw this scenario where my brother was surprised when he saw his son apparently saying harsh language that should be avoided. This does not rule out the possibility that this scenario can also occur in gambling, or the point is that a child can participate in gambling activities carried out by adults without the knowledge of these adults.

True, we never know or we can't really tell if how those young kids going to adopt whatever they are seeing or hearing from us, most of the times we are just being surprise that they already saying it or doing it, we will just notice that when we already witnessing it with our own eyes, so we need to be more careful if we don't want to expereinced things like that.

Yes because sometimes a child does it on their own without our knowledge or their parents, they are easy to hear, see and learn something very quickly which makes their parents sometimes unaware which in the end is surprised when they see or hear that their child can do something they never expected before, a child is easy to adapt to everything especially for something that makes them feel very curious. Therefore, this is why we as parents must really take care of their relationships and direct them to good things as well as avoiding bad things.

On the other hand, I understand that this does not always happen or mean that it cannot be confirmed, but what we must pay attention to here is that isn't prevention always better than cure? of course, therefore this is the importance of considering and paying attention to whatever is around us before we finally make a decision, and someone who is still underage is an age where the child is in the learning phase or meaning that they are like a sponge, always able to absorb whatever they see and hear, this is why parents are always required to direct a child.


Prevention also for me is the best way, treating things with a careful actions will prevent our young love ones to adopt whatever gambling that we are involve, if we are not willing to see them engaging with that same situation like us, we should always be aware on how or what things that we will show them and what are those that we should not.

Seeing, realizing and identifying a potential is the initial stage in terms of prioritizing preventive measures, and simply put, we as parents must really be able to protect and direct a child to good things and also avoid bad possibilities, and also besides that if for example we are a gambler then it is clearly better to hide our gambling habits, after all there are still quite a lot of times that we can use to gamble such as when a child is at school or when they are asleep.
19  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Kita harus mencintai dan menikmati proses on: April 18, 2024, 04:46:33 PM
Ini yang sangat perlu di butuhkan dalam hidup adalah mencintai dan menikmati prosesnya, namun terkadang ada kendala yang akan di hadapi karena tidak semua di kehidupan ini prosesnya berjalan mulus dan sesuai keinginan kita.

Kalau aku mungkin tepatnya menikmati proses dan bersabar

betul, dalam hal apapun dan dalam proses apapun yang kita lalui dalam kehidupan seperti misalnya dalam menjalani proses bisnis yang dimana memang banyak sekali ujian dan godaan yang datang yang berpotensi menggagalkan proses yang sedang kita lakukan dalam perjalanan untuk mencapai sebuah tujuan seperti kesuksesan, dan dalam hal apapun hanya proses yang bisa membawa kita pada sebuah perubahan atau peningkatan dalam hidup tetapi melewati dan menjalankannya tidak semudah membalikan telapak tangan, akan selalu ada ujian dan cobaan yang datang tetapi itu wajar karena bagaimanapun itu adalah hukum alam atau sesuatu yang harus kita lewati.

Kuncinya selalu tentang memiliki kemampuan bersabar, mengendalikan diri dan menikmati keadaan, disisi lain tidak ada seorangpun yang tiba - tiba berhasil menjadi orang sukses dalam waktu singkat, karena dalam hal apapun jika anda ingin mencapai puncak maka mau tidak mau anda harus mengetahui bagaimana caranya memanjat dan dalam tahap inilah terkadang tidak semua orang bisa memiliki kemampuan dan kesabaran berikut juga dengan niat yang kuat untuk tetap berjalan untuk mencapai tujuannya.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you are not to gamble. on: April 18, 2024, 04:14:48 PM
         -   It's not really good to turn gambling into a source of income, that's the truth. That's why others often say to do it just for entertainment, because if the reason for doing it is not for fun or entertainment, it will really lead to addiction and the wrong mindset will happen in the minds of most gambling communities.

We have seen that others who have the mindset that gambling is a source of income often turn their lives upside down, and others because of addiction that cannot be controlled properly leads to suicide, depression and even imprisonment. indeed.

That's true, most people normally decieved theirselves that they are gambling for fun and entertaining. Mean while they are just doing it on a regular due to fact that they have already gotten addicted to it , expecially those with the poor mindset of Taking gambling as source of income . When we all know well that gambling is all about luck and all that.  Though gambling is fun and one can earn some good amount by just hitting the right jackpot, but still that doesn't mean that one should approach it wrongly by gambling unwisely or irresponsibly.

I think it's true that most gamblers deceive themselves about their intentions and goals in gambling, they always tell people including maybe some of their friends that they gamble just for fun but actually it still has to be suspected, or I mean I'm not sure that they gamble with such intentions and goals and maybe I would say that it's just a one-sided claim, unless I see the evidence. And I think if you want to find out about what someone's real intention is to engage in gambling then you just have to see how they react and respond when they lose, because the name of the feeling will not be able to lie, if for example they feel very upset or even emotional because of losing then I think we can already conclude that the intention and purpose of gambling is to "multiply". However, this is a wrong approach based on a wrong understanding and belief in gambling, because after all the fact, as you said above, gambling is a matter of luck in terms of making a win, which means gambling can never be used as an income.
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