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on: August 29, 2016, 03:11:50 PM
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So, the other early bbc. listing, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553242 angryswamp https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553230 frostice (16) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553232 airsounds (165) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553235 fireball4 (166) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553238 oceanriver (140) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553242 angryswamp (175) *** frostice (16) Sep 8,25 Oct 23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 airsounds (165) Sep 8,25 Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 fireball4 (166) Sep 8,25 Oct 11,23, Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 oceanriver (140) Sep 8, Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 angryswamp (175) Sep 8,25 Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2,18 They start very slightly different but... and Nov 20! Time scale 30 minutes. 5 farmed accounts, 600 spam posts. *** bbc, spam list
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on: August 29, 2016, 02:51:19 PM
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For the more advanced let me try this list on you, involving potato power from bbc. list. (this is the oldest accounts on bbc. list. pre names pattern.) Note the generally higher post counts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552965 cobblelyf (39) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552967 pianomasta (36) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552970 greatr (282) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552972 useless4 (280) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552974 ontrackk (243) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552978 funbarrel (297) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552983 potatopower (176) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552985 purebitco (250) 8 random names, so no clues there. Back to how I start (and continue) verifying. Posting schedule. Let's look at their first 12 posts. (all rehashed meaningless content, if you wish to verify further take a read) cobblelyf (39) Sep 7,21 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 pianomasta (36) Sep 7,21 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 greatr (282) Sep 7,25 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 useless4 (280) Sep 7,25 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 ontrackk (243) Sep 7,25 Oct 10,19,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 funbarrel (297) Sep 7,25 Oct 10,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 potatopower (176) *** Sep 7,25 Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 purebitco (250) Sep 7,25 Oct 11,23,30 Nov 20 Dec 5,20,23 Jan 5,22 Feb 2 Farmed? Conclusive. Time scale 1 hour. 8 farmed accounts, 1550 spam posts. ***bbc. spam list
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on: August 29, 2016, 01:24:57 PM
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Is it possible for mods to nuke entire threads? If a users post is deleted, does their post count get reduced? ^^If yes and yes then: Why not start nuking the biggest most obvious sig spam threads to discourage meaningless posts, even the ones that are 2 complete sentences. This one has over 3,000 replies: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life?I bet it would set a few farmers back quite a bit if you just nuked the 5 most obvious farm threads in gambling section. Yes and Yes. Different issue I feel. Why not tackle farmers head on. All farmed posts by their very nature are worthless. If these accounts were removed other actions, such as you suggest, might then have a value. If I have linked all these accounts as farmed, how can anyone say any has value. Who would want to talk to a farmed account if they knew? Only other farmed accounts. If Theymos banned all accounts shown here, by declaring them worthless spam maybe, that would send out a clear message. He clearly does not want to send that message, yet. but to genuine members it's the participation and information that counts more than a fast progression through the ranks, and they would have to make better quality posts to achieve that too.
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on: August 29, 2016, 12:21:14 PM
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Good work TwitchySeal and Joel_Jantsen. Omegasun is only 4 members away from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639372 on bbc.reporter list! If you can get one of these accounts banned, then the administration will also likely ban all of their alt accounts as well. Although I do not know how much effort these farmers put into hiding the fact that each of their accounts are controlled by the same person. As I am showing, the farmer here did not put in much effort to hide this. Hence Theymos already knows. I am clicking through a target range of 100,000 members + here. One by one. Theymos could just scroll down the member list and see all this in 5 minutes. If an account farmer (or anyone) makes a large number of low value posts then they will likely get banned.
Are you sure that there are in fact "hundreds" of people farming large numbers of accounts? What rules would you propose implementing that would stop this kind of farming?
This cannot be fought case by case. All farmed posts are of NO value. They only have one purpose - build post count. Theymos can decide, he can see this and the bigger picture clearly. Or he could at least communicate his take. (i have always said that 1 or 2 farmers have created all accounts in question here!) I am sure theymos is well aware of the problem, so are the mods and staff of the forum, but how do they prevent this? In fact, I think theymos is doing an impressive job in tacking these issues wherever possible. Could you link me to some impressiveness please. I've had no input here. The accounts in question are around 10 months old. No sign of any impressive action yet. Theymos could have done all my detecting work in 5 minutes, with his tools. 10 month old accounts. 5 minutes work. The community + moderators find and remove spam and off-topic content, and ban members who are found abusing or breaking rules To disincentivize farming I see two choices: Restrict account trade to the maximum extent. Restrict signatures or signature campaigns. Yes, inconsistently, slowly, one by one. Mods said copy/paste is zero tolerance. But even my copy/paste reports go ignored. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1586378.0Banning a member here and a member there for low quality posting is futile when 100's of accounts are openly being farmed. The more low quality there is, the harder it is to justify banning each individual account, The next account is just as bad? I'm sure there are other choices here.
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on: August 28, 2016, 01:14:47 PM
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K~Ehleyr, without the name connections, this would have been so much harder to "show" clearly. That is pure luck for me. I didn't expect to find these patterns either. Clearly all my posts are about the work of 1 single entity farmer.
Chris! thanks for looking. Great idea of yours I think. (can't quite get my head round it yet..) Is that something you could/would do? Anything that clearly illustrates this situation would be good. I will probably make one long list at some point, consolidate my multiple lists!
Bear in mind I have very limited tools or access (or incentive) for this search. Inferior tools and access than mods, far inferior tools and access than global mods. Far, far inferior tools and access than Theymos. Still I found all this very quickly.
Theymos must have known all I have published already. And what I will publish next.
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on: August 28, 2016, 11:45:16 AM
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Not so pretty that list above, is it? Turns out that list is #4 of 4 alphabetical lists. (unless i have missed some more) If I put all four lists together, the pattern is clearer. I've numbered the lists 1, 2, 3, 4. 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667857 Atesed posts = 0 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668247 Apened 19 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668637 Appuned 20 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669144 Auponef *** 181 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667859 Bameras 26 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668249 Bemerand 251 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668640 Benarand 21 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669148 Beparanf 21 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667862 Cabdinsard 0 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668252 Cateinyard 21 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668647 Cabapzarf 21 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669150 Cacapzarg 17 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667863 Dobmader 21 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668256 Dobmaster *** 187 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668651 Docnaster 285 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669152 Dodnastes 19 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667865 Efemen *** 93 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668260 Egenen 21 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668654 Ejanend 18 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669156 Ekanenf 20 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667868 Falmant 21 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668261 Famnant 21 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668658 Fanpant *** 157 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669157 Fappanu 21 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667872 Gatotare 21 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668291 Gastotade 22 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668664 Gaswuwade 33 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669159 Gotomoon 20 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667873 Hamaber 19 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668293 Hanacerty 20 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668667 Hapucerty 20 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669161 Haruderty 136 1 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668294 Jiamaf 22 3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668679 Juhagic *** 184 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669163 Jukagid 21 1 2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668297 Kenarix 20 3 4 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669167 Ketariz 19 1 time span 30 minutes. 8 accounts, 200 spam posts. Nov 27 7.03am - 7.31am 2 time span 2 hours. 10 accounts, 600 spam posts. Nov 27 9.19pm - 11,16pm 3 time span 1 hour. 9 accounts, 750 spam posts. Nov 28 9.17am - 10.15am 4 time span 45 minutes. 10 accounts, 450 spam posts. Nov 29 1.25pm - 2.07pm (Looks to me like the farmer felt he rushed list 1, not enough padding. So spent longer on list 2 to allow real padding. List 3 was hurried along by farmed padding, Same, but faster again on list 4.) The above multi list includes two 0 post accounts, (on list 1) first time i have included 0 post accounts. See how most accounts are around 21 post count. Just systematically ranking up. bbc.reporters spam list hit the top post count on list 1 and 4, and the second post count on lists 2 and 3 (also third post count list 3) *** bbc.reporter list found 10% of related accounts. 90% are unnoticed. Not yet on Dannys ignore list. I have another A - B - C - D - A - B - C - D list which brings my 3 other published repeat lists together in the same way as here. That will take my total farmed member list well over 100, producing 8000 spam posts. Bit funny no one hardly anyone gives a shit after all the moaning of spammers on bitcointalk.
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on: August 27, 2016, 11:54:31 AM
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I've got lucky so far. Really easy to identify these -A - B - C - D - A - B - C - D - patterns. It is self proving. No need to look further. It will get harder! The farmer is clever, and does change thing around a bit. On my first list, all names started with a capital letter. That was the only upper case used, no numbers. On my second list, all names start lower case letter. No upper case used, no numbers. On my third list, names starting "Z" are upper case, names starting "d" "s" or "m" are lower case. No other upper case, no numbers. The farmer also changes the - A - B - C - D - A - B - C - D - repeat pattern. How about - A - B - C - D - E - F - G - alphabetical pattern. Lets see if anyone can grasp this alphabetical list. ("I" is also missing off other alphabetical list i have compiled, not yet published) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669144 Auponef (181) *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669148 Beparanf (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669150 Cacapzarg (17) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669152 Dodnastes (19) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669156 Ekanenf (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669157 Fappanu (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669159 Gotomoon (20) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669161 Haruderty (136) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669163 Jukagid (21) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669167 Ketariz (19) Another 450 meaningless spam posts from these 10 farmed accounts. This list represents 45 min time line. (and as i hope is clear, would contain probably 0 other real active users even if i published every account in that time span. the omitted accounts are probably 0 post inactive. probably padding for these "active" farmed accounts) *** bbc. spammer list I have added post count as of time originally posted.
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on: August 26, 2016, 12:11:23 PM
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i think the pattern of name is not a strong basis for alt account. for example me and omegastarcream has the same prefix in username but we are not totally related to each even you check our profile and search for the local thread that we post.. i think farming of account here is not a allowed but it is hard to identify who is them. hahhaha.. Even theymos will have hard times for this case.
(and btvGainer) The pattern here IS strong. You don't know how to analyse the information that I have provided. I would never connect you with OmegaStarScream in this way. I am not looking for prefix's in names. The above list is taken from a 2.5 hour period. Yourself and OSS joined 14 months apart. The above list is in time order of members joining bitcointalk and is clearly ordered - S -V - A - M -S - V - A - M -S - V - A - M - ...continue. The list above is taken from 200 consecutive members joining. 12% are active farmed accounts. (Almost all the other 88% accounts omitted from the list are inactive 0 post accounts. Probably mostly padding for the farmers cover) Take another look. I do not think Theymos would have a hard time recognising these cases. (and all the others) PS Omega. I am now be looking into your account.
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on: August 26, 2016, 11:10:31 AM
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(OP target period being approx 100,000 accounts) Lets have a better look. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664793 sadyas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664805 apriloni https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664811 virusasog https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664818 michkima https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664832 satdas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664837 asrilani https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664839 virasisog https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664845 miakama https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664876 studas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664883 asdalani https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664899 varusisog *** https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664909 misakama https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664919 stadus https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664926 asidamani https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664935 vasrasus https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664939 mistanama https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664958 sildyas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664960 asriloni https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664962 vurasasog https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664965 mitkala https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664980 satmas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664985 asradoni https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664989 vatusasid https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664992 miayama Same kind of pattern here. (this list covers a two and a half hour registration time span) All happily posting away. Another 1900 meaningless spam posts from 24 farmed accounts. (I think there was barely 1 normal active user in in-betwen these accounts. The rest in-between accounts are inactive 0 post accounts) If an account farmer (or anyone) makes a large number of low value posts then they will likely get banned. A well established account will need to make a decent number of low value posts before they are in danger of getting banned. An account farmer could simply make generally interesting posts to get around violating this rule. An account farmer would need to put in a generally small amount of effort to not break this rule. Clearly the farmer knows this and does have a certain quality, albeit low. The same mundane sentences are rehashed infinitely. You know how hard it can be to build a case against 1 spammer. There are thousands of these farmed accounts. By the time someone campaign's to get 1 banned, there are probably 100's more. This is why it is up to Theymos to act against, or not. Nothing we can do. I'll just try to highlight the scale of the problem. I never realised before. If you assume that someone can make 0.001BTC per post (which I do not think is unrealistic, and is even maybe low), and over the long run, can make one post every 2 minutes (again, not unrealistic, but the post quality would not be very good), then someone can make roughly $18 per hour just by posting while participating in a signature campaign if they can find enough threads to reply to throughout the day.
When you compare this to making $8-$9 per hour, flipping burgers at McDonalds posting large numbers of posts can be very appealing to a certain group of people. So, hire someone at $5 per hour, and keep $10 per hour in profit. Hire 10 people, keep $1000 per day profit. It must be happening? These accounts I am highlighting are most likely created by 1 or 2 or very few people. It is a unique and identifiable circumstance. It could easily be solved, independently of other multi-account or spam issues, as I think I have shown how easily they can be detected. There are certain policies in place that make it harder on a certain type of spammers, primarily those who post links to spam, and those who use automation to create accounts with the intention of creating a single post (from each account) that is an advertisement. These policies generally give a little bit of value to accounts because higher level accounts due to relaxed posting requirements. The forum also explicitly allows for people to have as many accounts as they want because of things like freedom of speech.
I agree that we have a problem with users making too much 'white noise' making it difficult to have a decent conversation about Bitcoin, however I am not sure how to fix this issue. Over the past couple of years, several solutions have been suggested, however if implemented, they would likely do much more harm then good.
There are certain vague rules that could be applied, but are not being. Makes me wonder, but for now, i,m pretending Theymos and the mods/staff probably aren't running this farming business, until I have a response. Someone is making big money out of this. I don't mind people making money, but such a massive degradation of this forum I do mind. When "real" new bitcoiners, like K~Ehlyr end up in conversation with these farmed accounts... well, read his thoughts above. I'm guessing new members like K~Ehlyr, and any non-members looking in, must think all bitcoiners are f**king retards! *** bbc. spammer list
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on: August 25, 2016, 09:38:22 PM
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I see... so the key indicator is when their activity matches their post count? I noticed that happens sometimes and took a moment to figure out how it was possible, but at the time I put it down to coincidence. I know what to look for now, thanks! It is not quite that simple. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1591598.0 Gives a better, slightly confusing, methodology to finding them. I will try to publish clearer information here now I'm up to speed!
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on: August 25, 2016, 09:22:08 PM
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I find this quite disturbing. Ok, so I'm only a newbie and my posts may not be particularly productive, but I'm a real person who types what comes into my head with no hidden agenda. I too am here to talk about Bitcoin, and read, and mostly learn. Crypto is my new obsession. Yet even in my short time here I have found it hard work filtering through all the pointless and spammy posts, and the trolls!! I know there are trolls everywhere but sometimes here it feels like I'm not even arguing with a real person! Trolls and arguments aside, when it feels like you're talking to a robot, there's just no point. It's a shame because all the fake posts obscure the really good stuff that genuine members come here for. And without genuine members and their contributions, any forum is worthless.
You are not a farmed account. The robots you speak to are actually farmed accounts. I had a quick look. You spoke quoted 1 a few days ago. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662306Depends on the board, some like gambling are almost exclusively spam, some are decent. If you have trouble filtering decent posts, DannyHamilton made a list that blocks sig spammers. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0Basically anyone with that is in or has been in a signature campaign is there (mine included). You can create your own list too I suppose. Because they can get away with talking endless spam in gambling. (and speculation) Dannys list is great, (i don't use any blocker) but it is a sticking plaster against farmed accounts. And the difference between farmed and unfarmed spam is also relevant and differentiating.
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on: August 25, 2016, 08:23:05 PM
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It's a shitty practice, but it's going to satutate the market eventually, and it's getting close already. Put a neg on all account buyers and sellers, that's my suggestion. Give em a little disincentive to do it. I totally agree with you, rizz.
It is the wrong suggestion. I don't care for the trust system. Don't understand it, never used it. I just want to talk about bitcoin, and read about it. I cant anymore. These accounts are self sustaining. They post, they earn. The more they want to earn, the more accounts they need. The more spam there is, the less real members there are. Theymos should be the disincentive I think? (added, lets pretend Theymos and the mods/staff probably aren't running this farming business until we have a response)
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on: August 25, 2016, 08:13:19 PM
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I don't want Kahir banned. That was never the point. I'm just highlighting the "flexability" of application on a "hard" rule. (hard rule according to some mods, see above post) . Is it just me?
Lauda, hilariousandco, AND Cyrus I've banned both of them, the forum has 0 tolerance for this practice. Thanks!
But apparently it does. 2 out of 3 copy/pasters still posting.
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on: August 25, 2016, 07:55:02 PM
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Yes, it is allowed.
As I suspected! However there are other "rules and vague rumour, open to individual moderators to enforce" that could cover this situation? Like vague rule number 1, "1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads." (from the "somewhat complete, unofficial list" at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0I'm not looking for someone with 2 alts. This is different.
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on: August 25, 2016, 07:40:26 PM
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* Updated farmed account list being prepared..... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670807.0. * Is account farming allowed? It has ruined this forum. There is clear evidence that account farming on a professional scale is, and has been taking place. The process of bringing accounts upto rank creates endless spam. Then when the accounts are sold, the new owner is likely to recoup his outlay by spamming for a sig campaign. An endless cycle of meaningless BS spam. (some of the new owners may want to do other things such as scam or sway argument, of course) These professional account farmers are very good at their job. You will not see the obvious if you will not look. They are the root cause of spam here. It is too late bbc.reporter listing 20 farmed accounts. There are 1000's. By the time they are added to someones list - the damage to the forum is done. Theymos must know what is happening. Global mods must know what is happening, and could act. Other mods/staff must know what is happening but cannot (directly) act. I do not have access to IP's. I cannot see (or know) if a member is banned. The member search doesn't even work. I found all this easy enough when looking into a list of 20 claimed spammers. Beside my user experience being ruined, I'm not that bothered. It is not my forum. I did think theymos might have been bothered for genuine members though. I may have got it all wrong? I'm bringing this (relevant half) quote over here as a starting point of my evidence. (sorry if i messed up your thread (OP) bbc.reporter. and sorry Mitchell, i was also guilty of not reading your post correctly. i understand the 0 post farmed accounts i mentioned are all banned, but bbc's list? and the other active accounts i have identified?) I will identify/post more farmed accounts here as necessary for proof. (unless farming is allowed and ok) I previously linked (some of) OP listed active accounts. There are many more "patterns" which are easily findable in these active farmed accounts. They are all bought up to status by posting once a fortnight. the minimum post to max potential? (you need to look at the first posts on the account. it may be sold now) Christmas day wont stop the system. (i know, why should it) But for fun(!) look at "stadus", https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664919 Check his original posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664919;sa=showPosts;start=180He posted Nov 25, Dec 5/14/25, Jan 7/20, Feb 2/14/27 Now see "asidaman", https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664926 (he joined 4 min 11 seconds later than stadus) Check his original posts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664926;sa=showPostsHe posted Nov 25, Dec 6/14/25, Jan 7/20, Feb 2/15/28 This pattern runs right through OP target period *** Look at "efemen" (from OP list) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667865And compare with (all registered within 8 minutes) "Falmant" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667868"Gatotare" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667872"Hamaber" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667873 They posted on (from first posts remember) Dec 27, Jan 5/16/27, Feb 9/22 Dec 27, Jan 6/17/29, Feb 10/23 Dec 27, Jan 7/18/30, Feb 9/22 Dec 27, Feb 8/19/31, Feb 10/23 This pattern runs right through OP target period? *** keep in mind that the problem is also caused by the signature campaigns themselves. They usually are not putting up enough pressure on their participants regarding quality, or just don't care at all.
Trouble is Lauda, the posts of these farmers are far superior to the posts of members like twa https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=49360 They fool the mods, they fool the global mods, they fool theymos. Should Lutpin not be fooled?
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